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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:The Dems may be hedging their bets that letting the AHCA pass will be a key part of mounting a massive wave in 2018. Just no, the Dems should not be using people's health care as a gambling chip. Fight it bitterly, and when it passes, continue fighting until it is fixed.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:50
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Just no, the Dems should not be using people's health care as a gambling chip. Fight it bitterly, and when it passes, continue fighting until it is fixed. Plus a record of strong opposition to something that turns out to be terrible and unpopular can only help Democrats.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:51
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:The Dems may be hedging their bets that letting the AHCA pass will be a key part of mounting a massive wave in 2018. I'm not seeing that they have a way to stop the passage, only slow down when it is passed, which wouldn't have an effect on when it is implemented. And if I understand things correctly, the only way to slow it down is to completely shut down the Senate, which would also stop any public hearings on Russia. Is there something that I'm missing?
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Jun 13, 2017 18:51
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Just no, the Dems should not be using people's health care as a gambling chip. Fight it bitterly, and when it passes, continue fighting until it is fixed. You seem to think they respresent you. They don't. They represent a vested power interest
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Jun 13, 2017 18:52
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:The Dems may be hedging their bets that letting the AHCA pass will be a key part of mounting a massive wave in 2018. They can't stop it, and coming up with bizarre theories about how they secretly want it to pass, which can be the only explanation for why they don't do something is Ted Cruz/Tea Party level conspiracy bullshit.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:52
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Sinteres posted:They can't stop it, and coming up with bizarre conspiracy theories about how they secretly want it to pass, which can be the only explanation for why they don't do something is Ted Cruz/Tea Party level conspiracy bullshit. Also this.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:53
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The Congressional republicans would be doing literally everything they are trying to do and much more even if it was Jeb, Rubio, Cruz, whoever in place of Trump. In fact they'd be far more successful at everything because they wouldn't be shackled to the human lightning rod that is Trump. The fact that they are running into so many difficulties is a testament to how many people loving hate Trump and are now also hating them too. So yes things matter.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:53
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Just no, the Dems should not be using people's health care as a gambling chip. Fight it bitterly, and when it passes, continue fighting until it is fixed. This. Right here. You do not keep your powder dry for an issue like this. We are literally talking about the difference between life and death for some people. Will it hurt their electoral chances? No, but that's not why they should fight this bill. I'd prefer at least one party with a loving soul.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:53
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Serfer posted:Don't pizza shame 
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Jun 13, 2017 18:54
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The Dems can't "let" them pass it, that phrasing assumes they have any power at all here
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Jun 13, 2017 18:56
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TARDISman posted:What did Truman end up doing to get that high? Truman also attempted to basically seize a bunch of privately owned steel mills when the steel Union threatened a general strike. The SCOTUS stepped in and ruled that he couldn't do that, which made Truman look power hungry and incompetent. (I'd argue that he was neither but public opinion is public opinion).
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Jun 13, 2017 18:56
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You seem to think they respresent you. They don't. They represent a vested power interest Oh, you're a moron. Okay. One more for the ignore list.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:56
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sean10mm posted:If nothing matters, why don't you kill yourself and end your pain? And also ours while you're at it! It's a win-win! Don't be silly. We are witnessing history and it will be both very interesting and exciting to see how America collapses. Civil war? Nukes? A slow decline into a shadow of its current self like Great Britain, or even into an irrelevant banana republic?
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Jun 13, 2017 18:58
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enraged_camel posted:Don't be silly. We are witnessing history and it will be both very interesting and exciting to see how America collapses. Civil war? Nukes? A slow decline into a shadow of its current self like Great Britain, or even into an irrelevant banana republic? How about you stop posting then? We can all pretend you are indeed dead, and we get the best of both worlds.
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Jun 13, 2017 18:59
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:You seem to think they respresent you. They don't. They represent a vested power interest yay another victim of the now-established russian psyop campaign
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Jun 13, 2017 19:00
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enraged_camel posted:Don't be silly. We are witnessing history and it will be both very interesting and exciting to see how America collapses. Civil war? Nukes? A slow decline into a shadow of its current self like Great Britain, or even into an irrelevant banana republic? Shut up.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:00
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The Senate Democrats could stop the bill. They just have to convince four Senate Republicans to get in one of their cars and then drive off a cliff.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:02
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Al Borland Corp. posted:The Senate Democrats could stop the bill. They just have to convince four Senate Republicans to get in one of their cars and then drive off a cliff. Let's be fair, I'm sure Senate Democrats have been trying to convince Cruz and Cornyn to do this for years.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:02
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Would russian trolls really pay $10 to post on our dying comedy forum? I think we would at least have some fun with them.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:02
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Spiritus Nox posted:Let's be fair, I'm sure the entire Senate has been trying to convince Cruz to do this for years. FTFY
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Jun 13, 2017 19:04
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Congressional republicans would be doing literally everything they are trying to do and much more even if it was Jeb, Rubio, Cruz, whoever in place of Trump. In fact they'd be far more successful at everything because they wouldn't be shackled to the human lightning rod that is Trump. The fact that they are running into so many difficulties is a testament to how many people loving hate Trump and are now also hating them too. Everything hasn't been instantly fixed so everything will be terrible forever. Thus, it follows that our only rational response is to be histrionic on the internet about how HOPELESS we feel, as if the louder a pissbaby we are the better and smarter and more woke it makes us.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:04
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enraged_camel posted:Don't be silly. We are witnessing history and it will be both very interesting and exciting to see how America collapses. Civil war? Nukes? A slow decline into a shadow of its current self like Great Britain, or even into an irrelevant banana republic? honestly its either 1 or 3. probaly 3. we are headed the way of roman republic, but idk it it will be a complete fall or just turn into some empire.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:04
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Party Plane Jones posted:
What was this? Seems like it went down almost immediately.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:05
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https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/874688561316073472Dapper_Swindler posted:hmm. so the GOP is either placating the tea hadists or giving into them. also what was holders investigation into Uber. i know they are loving terrible but i havent heard details. I edited my post to add this; here's a good read on one woman's experience: https://www.susanjfowler.com/blog/2017/2/19/reflecting-on-one-very-strange-year-at-uber
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Jun 13, 2017 19:05
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Live stream has started: http://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-jeff-sessions-testifies-before-the-senate-intelligence-committee-live-stream/
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Jun 13, 2017 19:06
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hmm. so the GOP is either placating the tea hadists or giving into them. also what was holders investigation into Uber. i know they are loving terrible but i havent heard details. They stole a rape victims medical records so they could prove she was lying about being raped by an Uber driver.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:06
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hmm. so the GOP is either placating the tea hadists or giving into them. also what was holders investigation into Uber. i know they are loving terrible but i havent heard details. The Sexual Harrassment issues and the fact that Uber is bleeding money and talent.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:06
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Any word on whether the President will tweet during Session's testimony? This isn't quite the superbowl that Comey was set up to be, but I don't mind watching what I imagine is the first game of the playoffs. I don't know anything about sports but I'm 90% sure that metaphor isn't mixed.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:07
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Wow, such urgency.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:08
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I am sure this is old old old but this website is hilarious: https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/user/realDonaldTrump It's just a list of all the tweets trump has deleted.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:08
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LaserShark posted:What was this? Seems like it went down almost immediately. He announced he was going on Fox and Friends to discuss the Lies Comey Said. It might have been Hannity. Party Plane Jones fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 19:10
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hmm. so the GOP is either placating the tea hadists or giving into them. also what was holders investigation into Uber. i know they are loving terrible but i havent heard details. Basically, after a high ranking female dev left the company and posted a long blog post about how sexist the company is, Uber took a lot of heat so they decided to hire Eric Holder and a couple other former prosecutors to go through the company and audit it. It turns out that shockingly, it was a boys club filled with lots of discrimination and just a cesspool for anyone that wasn't male. I think their CTO has an open investigation for sexual harassment from his time at Google. The CEO sent out an incredibly misogynistic email before a company party. Just the definition of "brogrammer culture" and now they basically have no C level employees left after the CEO today decided to "take a leave of absence."
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Jun 13, 2017 19:10
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ISeeCuckedPeople posted:The Dems may be hedging their bets that letting the AHCA pass will be a key part of mounting a massive wave in 2018. They have no way of stopping it. If they could, they would. It's no more calculated than I am for allowing the sun to rise tomorrow.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:10
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Cheekio posted:Any word on whether the President will tweet during Session's testimony? This isn't quite the superbowl that Comey was set up to be, but I don't mind watching what I imagine is the first game of the playoffs. I don't know anything about sports but I'm 90% sure that metaphor isn't mixed. They have him in the pretend warroom playing a wire frame version of missile command to occupy his attention.
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Cheekio posted:Any word on whether the President will tweet during Session's testimony? This isn't quite the superbowl that Comey was set up to be, but I don't mind watching what I imagine is the first game of the playoffs. I don't know anything about sports but I'm 90% sure that metaphor isn't mixed. Well, they sat on him for Comey, so they may do the same thing today. Probably not worth reporting it even if he will; there were reports that he might tweet during Comey, and afterwards I saw people use the argument 'SEE HE DIDN'T TWEET FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS'.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:11
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Dapper_Swindler posted:hmm. so the GOP is either placating the tea hadists or giving into them. also what was holders investigation into Uber. i know they are loving terrible but i havent heard details. Far too many individual things to list but it's a horribly toxic workplace full of fratboy assholes.
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RevKrule posted:Basically, after a high ranking female dev left the company and posted a long blog post about how sexist the company is, Uber took a lot of heat so they decided to hire Eric Holder and a couple other former prosecutors to go through the company and audit it. It turns out that shockingly, it was a boys club filled with lots of discrimination and just a cesspool for anyone that wasn't male. I think their CTO has an open investigation for sexual harassment from his time at Google. The CEO sent out an incredibly misogynistic email before a company party. Just the definition of "brogrammer culture" and now they basically have no C level employees left after the CEO today decided to "take a leave of absence." lol. sounds about right. glad they are burning down.
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Hellblazer187 posted:They have no way of stopping it. If they could, they would. It's no more calculated than I am for allowing the sun to rise tomorrow. If there was ever a time to play politics and do something just to look good now is the time.
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