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It's really cool that big swarms are good, and it's funny that throwing a bunch of Fearless babybugs into a big fight before the bigbugs show up to murder everything is a workable strategy.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:For those who've read some of the 40k books, how is Guy Haley? He's writing the first Dark Imperium book about Mortarion and Guilliman at Ultramar and filling out the fluff for the Primaris marines, could be interesting. He's not great. The book itself is interesting in the "Filling out what the gently caress's been going on" and he hits some interesting concepts (Emps being as big a bastard as he was in MoM, Girlyman's distain for the Primaris) but Haley isn't a good enough author to explore them as much as they should have been.
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panascope posted:It's really cool that big swarms are good, and it's funny that throwing a bunch of Fearless babybugs into a big fight before the bigbugs show up to murder everything is a workable strategy. I agree, I like the idea of swarms doing well. I think the dedicated anti-swarm guns should do more. poo poo like frag missiles and artillery are barely better than throwing rocks.
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Consider the following text a warning on the dangers of plastic crack. I spent Sunday evening refitting my Warriors, swapping weapons around and upgrading things from my bits box to make better use of the 8E upgrade options now that it's no longer a choice between scything talons or 50pt model. This ended with the conclusion that I could use at least one more venom cannon and a few more bonesword & rending claw arms to square everything off. Unfortunately ebay wasn't much use, so I thought why not add a box of Warriors to my 8E rulebook order for this weekend? Well apparently it's now £26 for a box of 3 models even after the store discount. Then I remember that the starter set contains Warriors, and for £18 more I'm basically getting a free Hive Tyrant and taking the order over £80 for free shipping too. So 7 years and probably ~20,000pts into a Tyranid army I find myself buying Start Collecting: Tyranids. Help.
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xtothez posted:Consider the following text a warning on the dangers of plastic crack. So you must have at *least* fifteen gaunts? Congratulations on your unbeatable army. Seriously though, I'm most excited that my Swarmlord is seeing the table these days. My flying shooty Tyrant has stayed on the shelf as well. It's a funny thing...
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Hixson posted:Do you ever wonder why every thread you post in ends up with you arguing with 10 people simultaneously? Do you ever think maybe it's you, and not everybody else that's wrong? Take a cupola minutes to cool off dude I think you might be presuming a little too much in regards to how emotionally invested the people are in the conversation at hand.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:44
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TKIY posted:So you must have at *least* fifteen gaunts? Congratulations on your unbeatable army. Yeah all I want is to have a decent list that includes a swarmlord and a trygon prime. They're my favorite models.
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Jun 13, 2017 20:01
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:For those who've read some of the 40k books, how is Guy Haley? He's writing the first Dark Imperium book about Mortarion and Guilliman at Ultramar and filling out the fluff for the Primaris marines, could be interesting. I've read it, it's actually decent by 40k novel standards. He's no Dan Abnett, but he's no C S Goto.
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DiHK posted:Flamer and Heavy Flamer for Marines please. Here you go! pre:Unit Cost Guants/100 Marine/100 Land Raider/100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Space Marine (Flamer) 22 8.84 2.65 0.03 Company Veteran (Flamer) 25 7.78 2.33 0.02 Bike Veteran (Flamer + 2x Boltguns) 45 7.61 2.28 0.02 Terminator (Heavy Flamer) 45 5.19 2.59 0.05 Razorback (TL Heavy Flamer) 99 4.71 2.36 0.05 Land Raider Redeemer (Everything) 304 4.11 1.90 0.07 Inceptor (Assault Bolter) 60 2.22 1.11 0.02
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Mulitple flamers being good against hordes is pretty awesome.
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I always get excited when I see a ton of posts in this thread, but then I realize half of them are from that chutche guy, who I have on ignore so  DC area hams: I'm on vacation when 8th drops. I know, I'm an idiot. I'm back Monday and am taking off an extra day (Tuesday). If anyone's got time, I'd love to get a game of 8th edition in. Hit me up!
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:For those who've read some of the 40k books, how is Guy Haley? He's writing the first Dark Imperium book about Mortarion and Guilliman at Ultramar and filling out the fluff for the Primaris marines, could be interesting. I read that book. It was a big disappointment. The prose is very poor and characterization is weak. It gives a glimpse of the new Imperium and hints at a few interesting things, but the plot isn't actually that interesting. There's a few cool scenes - Inceptors hot drop, massive bigmar assaults and so on - but I didn't enjoy it much overall.
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HardCoil posted:Mulitple flamers being good against hordes is pretty awesome. Pretty stoked about Blood Angels finally being able to run a heavy flamer devastator squad, not gonna lie. If only it was viable to drop pod them in...
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Hey Beer4TheBeerGod, can you hook me up with data on a double heavy flamer Land Speeder per 100 pts? Thanks for posting the math, BTW.
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Regardless of whatever else is going on with gaunt hordes in this thread lately, I'm super happy for Tyranid players 8E seems to have rescued them from trap army status. I'm really looking forward to watching my bigmars doing starship troopers reenactments Also good call on ignoring Cupola man, imma do that as well
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WhiteWolf123 posted:Hey Beer4TheBeerGod, can you hook me up with data on a double heavy flamer Land Speeder per 100 pts? Heavy flamers will be murder against most things under T5, and their overwatch abilities just make them that much better. Antihorde seems to have options. Snipers to remove character buffs, other hordes, flamer and flamer overwatch are all good. Blast weapons seem to be the biggest letdown for both anti-horde and anti-armour duties.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:00
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Here you go! If you're taking requests how do the space marine flyers work out? They seem like they might be a good option since gaunts and genestealers literally have no way of attacking them.
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The Sex Cannon posted:I always get excited when I see a ton of posts in this thread, but then I realize half of them are from that chutche guy, who I have on ignore so I might be able to do something in the evening.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:14
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Here you go! Checking your math here, I think you halved the result for Inceptors--they have 2 assault bolters each, so they fire 6 shots per turn, not 3. That ups their gaunt score to 4.44
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Anyone who's ordering books directly from GW; are they all being delivered on Saturday? Has anyone gotten a date that's before Saturday? What about third party vendors? I'm pissed as hell at the local Games Workshop. The store owner is a great guy, but corporate has some idiotic policies and it's pissing me off that I'm basically paying more money for less service. WhiteWolf123 posted:Hey Beer4TheBeerGod, can you hook me up with data on a double heavy flamer Land Speeder per 100 pts? Sure, let me put it together.
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Pendent posted:Pretty stoked about Blood Angels finally being able to run a heavy flamer devastator squad, not gonna lie. If only it was viable to drop pod them in... deploy your pods on the board, at the line of scrimmage, instead of using the drop pod assault rule. Your devs will be inside the pod if the other guy gets first turn, taking shelter; on your turn the flamer squad can disembark 3 inches, move 6 inches (into cover hopefully), and flame away
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I do need to work on my positioning some. But so last game, I had some guardsmen come out of a chimera and open up on some hormagaunts, killing several. Was a special weapon squad with 3 flamers, killed 10 including the chimera's weapons (There was another squad inside I hadn't disembarked yet firing the lasguns). But they weren't able to overwatch because they just charged into the chimera and piled in. After firing and him taking gaunts off the back, with the guardsmen about 8 inches from the gaunts and the chimera 5 or so inches behind, he had the gaunts move up to be 1.0001 inches from the guardsmen and declared a charge on the chimera, had a few go past the guardsmen to engage the chimera, then the rest piled into them so they couldn't use the flamers anymore. In all it wasn't that advantageous for him since it was about 180 points of guardsmen + chimera vs 150 pts of hormagaunts and he had to send his tyrant in to kill the chimera, just illustrating how I need to work on my positioning because it's so easy to deny over watches with these pile ins if I'm not careful. I hadn't considered how easy it'd be to just go past my lines to charge stuff behind them. Him committing to that flank let me deep strike my terminators there to kill the tyrant as it was fighting my chimera.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Anyone who's ordering books directly from GW; are they all being delivered on Saturday? Has anyone gotten a date that's before Saturday? What about third party vendors? My experience with GW preorders is that they ship them the day of release, so you won't get them for a few days unless you arranged to pick them up in-store This is why I just go to my FLGS for stuff I want right away, cause I can get it on the Thurs/Fri before release. This isn't strictly allowed, so you need a cool store owner to let you do it. I think they just don't report the sales until the following Saturday
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TheChirurgeon posted:Checking your math here, I think you halved the result for Inceptors--they have 2 assault bolters each, so they fire 6 shots per turn, not 3. That ups their gaunt score to 4.44 Good catch.
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There's no way in the current index books to take a Contemptor Dreadnaught with two of those absurd assault cannon things, is there? That gun is savage.
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WhiteWolf123 posted:There's no way in the current index books to take a Contemptor Dreadnaught with two of those absurd assault cannon things, is there? That gun is savage. There might be something in the Forgeworld index for Contemptors.
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Pendent posted:There might be something in the Forgeworld index for Contemptors. The new forgeworld's table of contents has relic contemptors and mortis dreadnoughts.
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In theory, wouldn't turtling inside of vehicles for 3 turns lead to the Genestealers either having to come out and play or die? I'm not sure how easily gants can tear vehicles up, so that might buy some precious time.
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The Bee posted:In theory, wouldn't turtling inside of vehicles for 3 turns lead to the Genestealers either having to come out and play or die? I'm not sure how easily gants can tear vehicles up, so that might buy some precious time. It's something worth considering, but if gants surround your rhino you can't fall back and can't disembark, so you're pretty hosed unless it's a flyer. if I wanted to buy stormravens and valkyries it would work I think.
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GW gave me an email that they shipped my order.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Here you go!
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Speaking of forgeworld stuff, you guys have any thoughts on tarantulas? I'm looking forward to seeing how they stack up against stuff like devastators for volume of fire.
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MonsterEnvy posted:GW gave me an email that they shipped my order. When's the delivery date?
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TheChirurgeon posted:I kind of like the first one the most, but I can work with these. Awesome! Cool, thanks! I wish I had done a slightly better job, the Primaris marines this weekend will end up much smoother. Lord_Hambrose posted:This turned out really great! Certainly not the mark of armor I was expecting, but you did pick the coolest mark.  I figured even after 10k years they still get forgotten about. I think the MkIII really suits them, even in a 40k setting. For 8th I'm going to try and make custom grav bikes, unless GW beats me to it.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:When's the delivery date? Don't know it's not listed yet. Edit Actually looking it appears they just got everything ready for the shipment but have not sent it yet.
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They shipped mine, but it's going to the store. It'll be delivered by tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be able to pick it up early or not. I should be able to, right?
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Zuul the Cat posted:They shipped mine, but it's going to the store. It'll be delivered by tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be able to pick it up early or not. 8th ed stuff? No.
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Zuul the Cat posted:They shipped mine, but it's going to the store. It'll be delivered by tomorrow, but I don't know if I'll be able to pick it up early or not. Nope. Just called earlier.
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