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Blazing Saddles was just one big improvisational movie since no one was reading a script. A small studio audience would just yell out stupid poo poo. Like "fart joke" or "big black dick" and the cast just rolled with it.
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Krispy Kareem posted:Except that everyone in Blazing Saddles is playing actors in an 1970's studio backlot. its layered ok
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Jun 12, 2017 23:11
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It's Hedley I love that because it is completely out of nowhere and never explained.
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Jun 13, 2017 00:10
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spog posted:It's Hedley https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedy_Lamarr
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Jun 13, 2017 00:25
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Have you met anyone called 'Hedley' ?
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spog posted:Have you met anyone called 'Hedley' ? Yes.
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spog posted:Have you met anyone called 'Hedley' ? yea
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spog posted:Have you met anyone called 'Hedley' ? Yeah, I love early Eagles albums! *It's Henley!*
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Jun 13, 2017 03:30
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spog posted:It's Hedley Speaking of... But I think the Hedley/Hedy jokes were things that made sense at the time but just didn't age well. He certainly has a knack for those.
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Jun 13, 2017 05:18
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I think the idea is that most people at the time would know of Heady Lamar.
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Ironically, I've been bad at explaining why over-explaining a joke is bad. The character has this very odd name and spends his time correcting people, with growing irritation.Yet we don't have to be told any explanation of how the situation came about or why it is funny. Indeed: John Big Booty posted:Governor Le Petomane even tells him "What are you worried about? It's 1874. You can sue her!" Compare and contrast to if it were in a Ben Stiller movie: there would be a multiple interactions explaining who Hedy Lamarr was, why Hedley has his unusual name, why his parents named him that, his growing irritation about the mispronunciation, the difference between him and her and why the confusion is funny. Possibly with a laugh track so we know when to laugh.
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spog posted:Ironically, I've been bad at explaining why over-explaining a joke is bad. what ben stiller movie are you talking about
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this guy thinks its an awesome joke to have people say someones name wrong for no reason
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Jun 13, 2017 13:37
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hedley lamarr is not a very odd name either lol
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scary ghost dog posted:what ben stiller movie are you talking about Well you see, in Meet the Fockers he goes into great detail about milking cats. Also Zoolander. It's not the kind of subtle humor that the audience unwraps by themselves...like a beautifully packaged gift. Like that 5 minute merchandising scene in Space Balls where Mel Brooks beats an one off joke like it's a dead horse
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Jun 13, 2017 14:29
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What the gently caress kind of movie has a laugh track? I'm not sure that guy has ever actually seen a movie.
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Jun 13, 2017 16:50
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"Its Count de monet!" repeated 15 times
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Decrepus posted:"Its Count de monet!" repeated 15 times The French Revolution part of History of the World is the weakest. It's good to be the king and "you look like the piss-boy!" have nothing on "Give alms to Oedipus! Hey Josephus! Hey Muthafucka!"
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Jun 13, 2017 18:54
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Mel Brooks is overrated and most of his films aren't actually that good. Influential, sure, but deeply inconsistent.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:16
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Blazing Saddles, Young Frankenstein, and the Producers bring up the averages on the other 30 or so films. So one decade was really good in a 60 year career. He's still a national treasure by benefit of living so long.
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Jun 13, 2017 19:21
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Brooks would be a lot less funny if he weren't Jewish
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Jun 13, 2017 19:58
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Men in Tights is a fave of mine. I do not care for Young Frankenstein. Fight me.
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Jun 13, 2017 20:05
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I like Mel Brooks.
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RagnarokAngel posted:I like Mel Brooks. It's Melb Rooks
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Jun 13, 2017 20:52
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New Producers is better than the old one.
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Kuiperdolin posted:New Producers is better than the old one. Stage production yes, movie version no. I still love the Nathan Lane film, but you can tell it was made for theater and not film. The original film has got more acid in its barbs, while the remake has more wacky that you'd see in Brooks's later films.
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Jun 13, 2017 21:40
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I've heard Spaceballs called "First Draft: The Movie" and that rings true for me. Brooks is at his best when he loves the thing he's making fun of. It was obvious he didn't give a poo poo about Star Wars and just wrote a script full of the most obvious jokes he could come up with about it. Some of it is still pretty funny though.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:32
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Mel Brooks' approach to comedy is basically to throw literally everything at the wall and even just a fraction of it sticks the barrage of jokes is heavy enough for you not to usually not notice the clunkers in between the ones that hit.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:49
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Young Frankenstein is so good because its played so close to straight. Not quite Airplane! level, but good enough for the jokes to really stand out. "Werewolves." "There, wolves. There, castle." "Ovaltine, perhaps?" "Put the candle back." "Abby someone, Normal, I think." Putting on the Ritz. The old blind man Gene Hackman!. It is so full of charming little bits. The only joke I remember from Men in Tights is when Elwes mentions he actually had an English accent. I remember zero jokes from Dead and Loving It. I remember the teasers for History of the World Part 2, more than the rest of the movie. Well, I can still sing The Inquisition song. That was the best bit in the movie. Welp that's my brief opinion on Mel Brooks. His best movie was written by Gene Wilder.
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Dead and Loving It had three (3) good jokes. When Lucy pulls her tits out and Harker recoils "Lucy please! I'm British!" When Dracula and van helsing keep trying to one up each other with the last word The blood gush killing Lucy
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oldpainless posted:Dead and Loving It had three (3) good jokes. When Lucy pulls her tits out and Harker recoils "Lucy please! I'm British!" 4. That bit where Renfield shakes off his pursuers by running back and forth for a few seconds is also good.
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Brooks is good but your mileage might vary depending on your taste for the vaudevillian aspect his roots bring to everything he does. High Anxiety, The Producers and Young Frankenstein are all pretty great. I don't like Blazing Saddles and Spaceballs as much as some people but they have their moments. Holy poo poo. i can't believe we're discussing Mel Brooks in a thread about SUBTLETY because he's not subtle at all. Even when he makes subtle jokes, he beats you over the head with them and has the characters point them out like Igor's shifting hump for instance. How the gently caress can anyone like Young Frankenstein?
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As bad as that movie is I still think of the Leslie Nielson "renfield you rear end in a top hat" anytime vampires are even remotely referenced in media
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Jun 13, 2017 23:05
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Renfield, you are standing in the closet. Or Harvey Korman demanding enemas for everyone.
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Gejimayu posted:I think the idea is that most people at the time would know of Heady Lamar. Which reminded me that the pet headcrab in Halflife 2 was called Lamarr, and I'm sure that went over a lot of players' heads (pun honestly unintentional!)
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Arcsquad12 posted:Renfield, you are standing in the closet. I loving love Dead and Loving It. Especially the earlier hypnotism scene when he tells the theatre atttendent to forget everything, so she just keeps walking back and repeating the conversation. poo poo was amazing.
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BiggerBoat posted:Holy poo poo. i can't believe we're discussing Mel Brooks in a thread about SUBTLETY because he's not subtle at all. Even when he makes subtle jokes, he beats you over the head with them and has the characters point them out like Igor's shifting hump for instance. The topic came up because of the only subtle joke Mel Brooks ever wrote (Hedy versus Hedley). I looked it up in case the joke was some inside thing between actors (it's possible Brooks and Lamarr knew one another). But no. In fact Hedy Lamarr was not amused. quote:Hedy Lamarr sued Warner Bros., charging that the film's running parody of her name infringed on her right to privacy. Brooks said he was flattered; the studio settled out of court for a small sum and an apology for “almost using her name." Brooks said that Lamarr "never got the joke
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BiggerBoat posted:High Anxiety, The Producers and Young Frankenstein are all pretty great. 
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I bet they're also the kind of person who prefers the Tim Burton Charlie and the chocolate factory to Gene wilders
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Whoops. How can anyone NOT like Young Frankenstein?
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