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Jun 13, 2017 22:41
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So how are Primaris actually looking, as an army? Because I'm being tempted to make my own Primaris chapter. Specifically, how would they be as a footslogging army? I really don't like their hovertank.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:43
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Those of you who have played 8th edition, what kind of terrain setups have you been using?
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Jun 13, 2017 22:46
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Painted my first 40K unit ever, a pathfinder team for the local SW:A campaign:  I was going for an urban theme but ended up underwhelmed by the muted colors, even with the orange accents. I have 2 start collecting boxes to bootstrap my army and I'm using the remaining pathfinders in the box to try out some alternative schemes. Top of my list are a white/grey and orange scheme like the official Vior'la scheme but Sa'cea orange instead (and also I guess a lot like the white and orange army posted earlier) or Farsight Enclaves because red is awesome. Still, this was a great learning experience with several glue mishaps.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:49
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TheChirurgeon posted:On the Space Marines front, I'm missing White Scars and Salamanders--someone posted Salamanders earlier, but it was an army spread too wide to use You're welcome to any Salamnders pics you want to use from https://imgur.com/a/DKkJA - if you need a better pic taking let me know and I can sort it out this weekend. Also you should include your own White Panthers somewhere in the OP 
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Jun 13, 2017 22:50
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muggins posted:It's really dumb, it's not like this is secret information now  Gyro Zeppeli posted:So how are Primaris actually looking, as an army? Because I'm being tempted to make my own Primaris chapter. That may change later once they get another couple of releases though.
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Jun 13, 2017 22:56
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quote:GW not giving me the goods early. That's lame. I should have just held it at the hub and went to pick it up. I'll see if i can convince my local manager to give it to me. I mean, he has all the index books, the BRB and the Dark Imperium set open on the table there and we've all been able to rifle through it and play test games. We'll see!
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Jun 13, 2017 22:57
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chutche2 posted:Those of you who have played 8th edition, what kind of terrain setups have you been using? I played with my necron terrain (some spires and a robo-hill) and a couple smaller cardboard boxes that I use for 7th and my necrons got loving slaughtered by 48" range because of the new line of sight rules. I played a game last night, Necrons V Orks, at my FLGS and I set up a ton of LOS blocking terrain they had. Lots of un-enterable buildings with stairs to get on top but no windows. Lots of 4" corridors through building corners on the map. It was WAY better. Both of us felt like the game was a lot more strategic with places to actually hide. I even managed to hide my Nightscythe on turn 1 before it had to fly over to the other side of the map. I watched a battle report by the miniwargaming guys and I agree with their assessment: You absolutely need to be playing with a lot of LOS blocking terrain in 8th. It at least feels that way at the moment.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:02
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General Olloth posted:I played with my necron terrain (some spires and a robo-hill) and a couple smaller cardboard boxes that I use for 7th and my necrons got loving slaughtered by 48" range because of the new line of sight rules. Good poo poo. Yeah we don't really have much LOS blocking terrain, the buildings here are mostly ruins and full of holes. I'll have to see about getting some.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:05
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bonds0097 posted:Painted my first 40K unit ever, a pathfinder team for the local SW:A campaign: drat dude, these look really good.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:09
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:So how are Primaris actually looking, as an army? Because I'm being tempted to make my own Primaris chapter. You know they're not actually a faction, right?  That's like saying "How are Nobz looking, as an army?"
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Jun 13, 2017 23:12
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chutche2 posted:Good poo poo. Yeah we don't really have much LOS blocking terrain, the buildings here are mostly ruins and full of holes. I'll have to see about getting some. Yeah, I need to get some agreed upon houserules for my terrain pieces that are effective if I'm going to keep using them, because they kind of suck now. Probably you could agree the ruins are LOS blocking if you don't have something better to use. (I have a stack of slightly differently sized nested Amazon boxes I accumulated, but they aren't like painted or anything so I was trying to move away from them) Warhammer 40k: They nerfed my third-party terrain
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Jun 13, 2017 23:13
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Zaphod42 posted:You know they're not actually a faction, right? They're not a faction, but they've already said there are chapters consisting completely of Primaris marines, and you can take Primaris in all the slots. So you can technically field a full force of Primaris marines. They're for sure coming out with more stuff for them like transports and tanks as well.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:24
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xtothez posted:
You know I don't actually have a Baal Predator, which are awesome now, and I never got round to ebaying that Blood Angel Terminator Captain, plus I could always use another of those fancy BA tactical sprues with all the cool bitz. The madness spreads.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:29
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Zark the Damned posted:You're welcome to any Salamnders pics you want to use from https://imgur.com/a/DKkJA - if you need a better pic taking let me know and I can sort it out this weekend. I think I can make one of these work. The challenge is more the angle of the photos than the age of the mans. Ha, I appreciate the vote of confidence about the White Panthers. If I have time this week and I don't get a better submission for the generic space marines banner, maybe I'll take a photo for that.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:31
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Have there been any rumors of new plastic basic Chaos Marines/Havocs lately? Khorne Berzerkers as well. I'm curious about doing a themed World Eaters army but I would never attempt it until those awful models get resculpted. I do like the new plastic Kharn a lot.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:33
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They pretty much stated from the get go there'd be enough Primaris stuff to run them as an army of their own, in addition to supplementing their manlet brothers. To actually answer the question, we honestly do not know. Best wait and see what gets brought out for them before deciding to go all in on Primaris.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:33
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chutche2 posted:Also, not sure where people keep getting this idea that I fear gaunts? Naw man, you afraid of fighting. Lemme tell you something: Jump packs. They got that <fly> yeah? You in a fight that you don't like? You just jump out. Then you can shoot them baddies, if you want. It's not falling back. Maybe you don't deep strike your jumpies. Maybe they're your front line. Maybe coupla isn't the right nick name for you.
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Jun 13, 2017 23:37
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DO IT TO IT posted:Have there been any rumors of new plastic basic Chaos Marines/Havocs lately? Khorne Berzerkers as well. I'm curious about doing a themed World Eaters army but I would never attempt it until those awful models get resculpted. I do like the new plastic Kharn a lot. If you've got some spare bolt pistols and other bitz I understand people have been doing some great conversion with the Sigmar Blood Warriors. https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Khorne-Bloodbound-Blood-Warriors Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Jun 13, 2017 23:40
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I'm about to play 1000 points of Guard against Tau for the first time in 8th My list: HQ: Company commander Primaris Psyker Elites: Commissar Platoon commander Veteran squad -GLx3 Troops: Infantry Squad -GL -Chimera --HB --ML Infantry Squad -flamer -taurax --ACx2 Conscriptsx30 HW: LRx2 -battle cannon -HB HW Squad -LCx3 Fast attack: Armored Sentinel -Plasma Cannon
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Jun 14, 2017 00:03
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what apps are being used for 8th edition army building? I saw people posting some pretty army rosters ...
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Jun 14, 2017 00:05
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OMG sriracha pudding! posted:what apps are being used for 8th edition army building? I saw people posting some pretty army rosters ... https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/
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Jun 14, 2017 00:10
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DiHK posted:Naw man, you afraid of fighting. Oh, wow, I'd never really considered running non-jump assault squads as chainsword screens for my shooty mans. That's very viable now that intervening units don't add cover
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Jun 14, 2017 00:12
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Zuul the Cat posted:They're not a faction, but they've already said there are chapters consisting completely of Primaris marines, and you can take Primaris in all the slots. So you can technically field a full force of Primaris marines. Codex and more units out next month. Will include dreadnoughts, tank, gut terminators and scouts.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:17
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Thundercloud posted:Codex and more units out next month. Wait...scouts? Primaris scouts?! I am suddenly very interested.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:25
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Thundercloud posted:scouts It's such a relief to know that my putting off buying anything but a single sniper scout kit all this time will finally pay off. I am seriously not a fan of those kits.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:25
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Wait...scouts? Primaris scouts?! I am suddenly very interested. Not the same scouts as now. They are infiltrator/special forces types. Same as the gutminators aren't the same as terminators. They all have shoulder mounted missile pods.
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Jun 14, 2017 00:43
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Thundercloud posted:Not the same scouts as now. They are infiltrator/special forces types. Rad. Glad I decided to go all in on the Primaris then. Is it a standalone Primaris codex? Or the full Vanilla Marines?
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Jun 14, 2017 00:46
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Oh hey this finally seems to be just about done, atleast as far as my armies are concerned. Sweet!
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As requested:pre:Unit Cost Guants/100 Marine/100 Land Raider/100 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Space Marine (Flamer) 22 8.84 2.65 0.03 Company Veteran (Flamer) 25 7.78 2.33 0.02 Bike Veteran (Flamer + 2x Boltguns) 45 7.61 2.28 0.02 Terminator (Heavy Flamer) 45 5.19 2.59 0.05 Razorback (TL Heavy Flamer) 99 4.71 2.36 0.05 Land Raider Redeemer (Everything) 304 4.11 1.90 0.07 Inceptor (2x Assault Bolter) 60 4.44 1.11 0.02 Land Speeder (2x Heavy Flamer) 114 4.09 2.05 0.04 Stormhawk* (2x HB, 2x Assault C, SC) 164 6.45 2.74 0.06 Stormtalon* (2x HB, TL Assault Cannon) 165 7.07 3.03 0.06 Stormstrike* (Everything) 274 5.43 2.28 0.07 *Hovering
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Jun 14, 2017 00:59
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:I might be able to do something in the evening. Let me know when you know for sure?
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Jun 14, 2017 01:51
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@Beer4TheBeerGod: Thanks for posting the heavy flamer speeder stats. This looks sweet. The list builder looks to be working for 7th, but when I'm in 8th edition mode, there's nothing in the dropdown for books?
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Jun 14, 2017 01:51
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The Kingfish posted:I'm about to play 1000 points of Guard against Tau for the first time in 8th As a fellow Guard player, I'd appreciate a report on how you go
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Jun 14, 2017 02:07
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Here's some fun math. Within the Space Marine arsenal there are three ranged weapons that are capable of, on average, taking out 13% of the wounds of a Land Raider in one shot. For those keeping score that's 2 wounds. Only one weapon in the arsenal can do better, but it can only be used once.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Here's some fun math. Within the Space Marine arsenal there are three ranged weapons that are capable of, on average, taking out 13% of the wounds of a Land Raider in one shot. For those keeping score that's 2 wounds. This is a terrible riddle.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Here's some fun math. Within the Space Marine arsenal there are three ranged weapons that are capable of, on average, taking out 13% of the wounds of a Land Raider in one shot. For those keeping score that's 2 wounds. I'm guessing demolisher cannon, orbital array, and grav cannon? And either twin lascannon or twin supercharged heavy plasma cannon I bet. Edit: Looks like grav cannons aren't going to do as much as I thought, so it's probably the others unless there's something I'm not remembering chutche2 fucked around with this message at 02:24 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 02:14
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Played another 8th ed Narrative game today, 54 power my Cult against Dark Angels called to a planet to download information about The Fallen; they needed to survive until at least Turn 5. Everything was in assault Turn 1. My dice were straight on fire, and I made nearly all of my Cult Ambush charges. The whole force fired at the gaggle of 15 'Stealers led by my Patriarch, and only around 6 made it into assault after casting Mass Hypnosis on the target squad so they couldn't retaliate competently. Nobody's transports went down except my Rockgrinder, which managed to burn one Terminator before charging and doing nothing in CC. However, because of the nature of the scenario, I spent 2 CP and had it immediately come back and grind into combat--again doing nothing. The 2 Heavy Flamers from the Chimera did about as much damage. This was not the case with my Primus and his squad of 10 Acolytes who chopped up a Tac Squad in 2 rounds. It's silly easy to make up for losing 2 attacks in CC this edition: Primus gives +1 to hit, Cult Icon lets you re-roll 1s to hit--absolutely baller on Heavy Rock Drills and Cutters. I learned a 5-man flamer pistol squad of Acolytes cannot handle 3 DA Bikers. poo poo just ain't happening. I dropped one Rhino to one wound, ate all the Tactical Marines and Terminators, and half-killed the Librarian. End of Turn 2, my buddy had 3 bikers, the Librarian, and 2 dying Rhinos left, and I could drop the Purestrains from play and return to the field full-force. We called it pretty early. Just a few rolls differently and the battle would have swung around. I could not be happier with this edition, really.
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Jun 14, 2017 02:28
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I just noticed that apparently getting bikers for a Nurgle army is no longer an option. I hope it gets added in when the actual book comes out, or I'll be stuck with quite a few lovingly converted, useless models.
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Jun 14, 2017 02:28
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chutche2 posted:I'm guessing demolisher cannon, orbital array, and grav cannon? And either twin lascannon or twin supercharged heavy plasma cannon I bet. Got two. Orbital cannon does the most, demolisher cannon is one of the three that does 13%. The other two have identical stats except for range; Twin Lascannon and the Las-talon. Nothing else beats 8% (Multi-Melta at half range).
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Don't even know what a las-talon is. Also, what's the stats on the twin heavy plasma then? I thought it would've beaten the multimelta. Oh, apparently there's also a twin multimelta? What even carries that? chutche2 fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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