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Bulkiest Toaster posted:As someone who never owned a Wii U and Wii I would love it if they had a ton of ports come to the switch. Being able to play the Zeldas I missed would be great I had both and I still want all the ports. Kinda disappointed about no Smash this year but I guess that gives me time to fill out the challenge board on Wii U.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:08
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I played AM2R. The difficulty felt poor balanced.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:08
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Metroid 2 gb (only because its dated as gently caress), Fusion and Other M are the worst Metroid games.
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SeANMcBAY posted:I had both and I still want all the ports. Get into arms and pokken
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Jun 14, 2017 03:09
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:Wanna drop a lil dollop of real talk on y'all for a second I'd probably by a switch just for this after seeing the trailer. That and whatever the gently caress this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bvUwoBXOyc Kak fucked around with this message at 03:13 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 03:10
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Lemming posted:I didn't call you crazy and I didn't imply you were forced to search for everything. My argument is that lots of people do like to go for 100% completion and secrets are generally obtuse enough that there's no way you'll do it on your own, so there's nothing wrong with streamlining that facet of the game for people. You're the one saying that it's reasonable to expect that people who want all the secrets should have to try to shoot every block or just look it up directly. Would Breath of the Wild be better if every shrine and korok seed were on the map?
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Metroid 2 gb (only because its dated as gently caress), Fusion and Other M are the worst Metroid games. Metroid Fusion: go here! ok now go here! oh god it's an emergency go to the next place right now aaaaaa Metroid Fusion: 23% completion what the gently caress is wrong with you. why didn't you explore
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Jun 14, 2017 03:11
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Modus Pwnens posted:Would Breath of the Wild be better if every shrine and korok seed were on the map? No but they're also very different games. But, they did include the Sheikah Sensor specifically to fill a similar role of giving you an option to make it easier to find things, and they're adding in a similar item for koroks.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:12
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no seriously, it isn't a personal insult to your masculinity if you don't have 100% in a gameLemming posted:No but they're also very different games. But, they did include the Sheikah Sensor specifically to fill a similar role of giving you an option to make it easier to find things, and they're adding in a similar item for koroks. They aren't similar because one of them goes too far while the other gives just the right amount of guidance. This ain't a binary thing, dude. It's not just a choice between the original Mario Bros and gently caress Myst
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Jun 14, 2017 03:12
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Modus Pwnens posted:Would Breath of the Wild be better if every shrine and korok seed were on the map? The korok mask in the new dlc points out where to find them, so. Augus posted:no seriously, it isn't a personal insult to your masculinity if you don't have 100% in a game I think every fan deserves to be able to approach their gameplay experience however they like and to have the tools to do so for their comfort level. Including 100 %'ers.
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Against my better judgement I have continued to scour Twitter to find many a salty Samus Returns takes, 95% percent of them salty for seemingly the same reason. They all pretty much read the same: https://twitter.com/Mitometa/status/874805151323873280 https://twitter.com/Alvin_Earthworm/status/874732195113558016 And so on and so forth.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:14
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Against my better judgement I have continued to scour Twitter to find many a salty Samus Returns takes, 95% percent of them salty for seemingly the same reason. are are they aware of how game development works? edit - wait, is that the super mario bros. z guy?
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Jun 14, 2017 03:15
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It would probably help if the paid game actually looked better than the free one.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:16
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man if he's such a good videogame making guy, why doesn't he make a cool new videogame ho well
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Augus posted:no seriously, it isn't a personal insult to your masculinity if you don't have 100% in a game Your idea of the "right" amount of guidance is completely subjective. Just like the Sheikah slate you can not use it if you don't want to. Edit: there's not even a resource cost associated with the Sheikah slate, so I guess it's worse because nobody will have any reason to turn it off and it always points you directly to a shrine.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:18
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TFRazorsaw posted:are Look it's a remake so there's no loving way it took them more than a week Also they don't realize how copyright works
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Jun 14, 2017 03:18
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Augus posted:What do you mean by consequence? And what's the problem with any of that? There are going to be people who will want to play the game who will be happy that a feature like that has been included. Having a feature that accommodates both people who want that sort of secret-finding/mapping tool (by having the button exist) and people who don't (by making it completely optional, exploring and finding secrets are not conditional on using it) is far better design than not having it at all or having it but making it mandatory, both of which would alienate one half of that audience. It feels a little bit like you're arguing in this case that good design is one that caters to your tastes at the exclusion of all others.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:18
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Real hurthling! posted:Get into arms and pokken I am. I like those but it's not the same.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:19
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Lemming posted:No but they're also very different games. But, they did include the Sheikah Sensor specifically to fill a similar role of giving you an option to make it easier to find things, and they're adding in a similar item for koroks. One gives you a general direction to search, the other makes the hidden stuff glow directly on your screen.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:20
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Augus posted:It would probably help if the paid game actually looked better than the free one. What does that have to do with accusations of DMCA'ing a game and then "stealing" an idea? The game wasn't made in a smidge less than a year so...
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Jun 14, 2017 03:20
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Real hurthling! posted:Get into arms and pokken pokken is lame
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TFRazorsaw posted:
Oh yeaaaaah it is. But yeah as I've stated for a while now a lot of people don't really seem to get how game dev/hiring practices work when it comes to the company. Especially that last part where I always wanna link this piece from a few years back whenever I see "They should hire these devs and let them make official games." over and over again.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:21
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Modus Pwnens posted:One gives you a general direction to search, the other makes the hidden stuff glow directly on your screen. No, the Sheikah slate beeps louder when you move directly towards the shrine. The only times it's ever ambiguous is if you're higher or lower than the shrine. It's not general at all.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:22
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Putting in the scan system can be detrimental because if the developer takes it for granted they may create secrets without tells. It's different from powerbombs or the Super Metroid scanner because generally, you won't pull out the scanner or the powerbomb (which prevent you from shooting/use up resources) unless you already suspect a secret is there. The scan system sounds more passive. And finding all of the secrets is not at all mandatory. Everything in Mirror of Fate was incredibly easy to find and it just made the act of obtaining all pickups more of an exercise in tedium than one of excitement, so I don't believe having all secrets b easily/comfortably found is a good idea, even if that means some people might have a difficult time hitting 100%.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:22
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The REAL Goobusters posted:pokken is lame Close the thread op
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Jun 14, 2017 03:23
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Oh yeaaaaah it is. People think that just because the stars aligned and Christian Whitehead got a job with Sega means it's going to happen everywhere despite that not being how it worked in almost every single case ever that wasn't Sega.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:24
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You can literally not look at the screen and just follow Sheikah sensor beeps to a shrine without any trouble unless it's specifically inside a mountain lol
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Jun 14, 2017 03:25
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9r5hx47kxM I really like the main Odyssey theme.
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Jun 14, 2017 03:25
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Anyone who is actually at e3, what cool lesser known/indie games have you seen on the floor for the Switch that were either previously unannounced or had no release date?
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Jun 14, 2017 03:26
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Viewtiful Jew posted:Oh yeaaaaah it is. the fact that sega managed to do just that and it looks great is not a mark in nintendo's favor here
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Jun 14, 2017 03:27
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Lemming posted:Your idea of the "right" amount of guidance is completely subjective. you are just blowing my mind here with your insight. Sodomy Non Sapiens posted:And what's the problem with any of that? There are going to be people who will want to play the game who will be happy that a feature like that has been included. You know what game had a lovely crutch mechanic? Sonic Lost World. A capsule with a wing in it shows up with no fanfare, is right in the middle of the level where it can easily be hit, and immediately transports you to the end of the stage unannounced. It sucks.
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TFRazorsaw posted:People think that just because the stars aligned and Christian Whitehead got a job with Sega means it's going to happen everywhere despite that not being how it worked in almost every single case ever that wasn't Sega. it's almost like a significantly lower barrier to entry for game development in general results in potential game devs cropping up from unexpected non-typical places and it's pretty backwards if you as a company don't tap the potential resource of people who are so hardcore into your IP that they'll literally do things for free and manage to turn out better results than the devs you've actually hired 
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:the fact that sega managed to do just that and it looks great is not a mark in nintendo's favor here Ursine Catastrophe posted:it's almost like a significantly lower barrier to entry for game development in general results in potential game devs cropping up from unexpected non-typical places and it's pretty backwards if you as a company don't tap the potential resource of people who are so hardcore into your IP that they'll literally do things for free and manage to turn out better results than the devs you've actually hired Christian Whitehead didn't just get an email in his inbox from Sega one day. He submitted his classic engine, he went through the channels, and when it was done he stopped all development on his fangame products. The myth that Sega just scooped him up ignores the hard work he put into getting the job he did. Companies just don't gobble up fan developers a la cart. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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bobjr posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9r5hx47kxM 
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Augus posted:you are just blowing my mind here with your insight. Your argument is literally "they're not the same because one is good and one is bad" so it's sort of hard to rebut plain nonsense like that with anything but a platitude.
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Lemming posted:Edit: there's not even a resource cost associated with the Sheikah slate, so I guess it's worse because nobody will have any reason to turn it off and it always points you directly to a shrine. The noise is the true cost
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Lemming posted:Your argument is literally "they're not the same because one is good and one is bad" so it's sort of hard to rebut plain nonsense like that with anything but a platitude. they're not the same because they literally aren't the same. one does one thing and one does a completely different thing. I'm sorry I ever said anything bad about a Nintendo game okay? Just drop it, forget everything.
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bobjr posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9r5hx47kxM I'll be honest, my eyes flashed through the title as I was scrolling down and thought it said Let's Do the Mario...
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