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tarlibone posted:I just couldn't get over Lord Buckethead's personal juxtaposition involved in that whole scene. On the one hand, he's preposterous: his outfit is absurd, his name fits the outfit, and his platform fits his name. It's all crazy. And then he goes and makes the most salient point about Brexit that I think I've ever heard, and it's something I bet a lot of people who take their British politics seriously never even considered--that whichever of the two likely PMs that the UK ends up with, it will be 1 of them, neither of whom are particularly impressive, against 27 other leaders... and yes, that will indeed be a shitshow. It's similar to the way court jesters were allowed to speak uncomfortable truths whilst joking. Humor is an effective way of showing the inherent absurdity in the system.
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He could have went way more into the election. But I didn't have a problem with just diving right into Brexit. He could have also spent the entire half hour talking about how Theresa May tapping the DUP to be her partners in government will also be a huge poo poo show. And the DUP, despite being extremists, don't want a hard Brexit. And whatever agreement the UK gets with all the EU nations rests on a thin and divided coalition. And the story of Jeremy Corbyn's surpise upset gains is a great story for leftists in itself. (For the two of you who didn't follow everything that happened since he first became Labour leader, look it up.) Perhaps it's good he didn't become PM, because this whole Brexit thing should rightfully be Theresa May's turd to clean up. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jun 12, 2017 |
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Jun 12, 2017 17:16
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They definitely should have given Lord Buckethead some lines there in the end.
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The fun thing about English democracy is that every election is only on the scale of an election to the house of representatives, and there are legal protections to campaigning so that it's not just a bunch of special interests and fundraising campaigns spewing money everywhere and advertising campaigns all over the place. Here's one joke candidate's account of running in 2012. And then at the end of the election, they all have a roundup of candidates, which is really by itself the perfect payout. Imagine if Vermin Supreme had a legally protected right to stand next to all the serious candidates during the primaries with that boot on his head. I feel like the British people are probably trying everything they can to undo Brexit, but there's no mechanic in the system for them to do so even if the public has at large changed its mind after giving its nebulous mandate (not hard to imagine considering the vote went only 52% in favor and that was with joke votes from people who thought it wouldn't happen and idiots who actually financially rely on the EU who may have thought things through since).
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Jun 12, 2017 19:42
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He never mentioned it but Boris Johnson is an american. Can you please take the plummy shitlord back?
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Collateral posted:He never mentioned it but Boris Johnson is an american. Can you please take the plummy shitlord back? If you take Piers Morgan back.
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Rexides posted:They definitely should have given Lord Buckethead some lines there in the end. It probably gets dicey there from a union perspective. He probably could have interviewed him, but he probably wouldn't be allowed to deliver scripted lines.
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The biggest joy of the British election season is just how short it is. Even for a regularly scheduled election the lead up will start earlier but the real meat of it lasts for six weeks and after a weekend everybody goes right back into doing their actual job of trying to run the country.
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Collateral posted:He never mentioned it but Boris Johnson is an american. Can you please take the plummy shitlord back? Sorry, we're full up on political clowns with ridiculous hair.
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Jun 12, 2017 20:21
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That episode... Comey Thatcher in the Rye Lord Buckethead 
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:Thatcher in the Rye In four years or whatever of watching this show, I think this was the hardest I've ever laughed at a line
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IRQ posted:If you take Piers Morgan back. Mutually Assured Dipshittery.
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webmeister posted:In four years or whatever of watching this show, I think this was the hardest I've ever laughed at a line I know, right? I mean, I laughed at the image of it and the clever pun on Catcher in the Rye, a book I loathe with all the loathes of Lothington. "Yeah, she reminds me of Thatcher." Had a good laugh. Then the significance of "in the Rye" hit me. Don't know why there was a delay... but it resulted in me getting the rest of the pun, and I was off laughing again.
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Jun 12, 2017 23:00
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If you are above the book, how do you know the reference?
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Probably because it was required reading for one of their classes.
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Grinning Goblin posted:Probably because it was required reading for one of their classes. Yes, sadistic teachers everywhere force Catcher in the Rye and Grapes of Wrath on unsuspecting innocent children. Generations of children have been subjected to the cruelty of these so called "American Classics". Where's the show about that? That's something that needs to be stopped as much as anything else people get up in arms about
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Really if you're gonna make a kid read Steinbeck, you probably ought to ease them in with Travels With Charley, just so they realize the author is a human being before you throw them in the deep end.
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Just watched the episode. Came here to say that Thatcher in the Rye was an absolutely brilliant joke and overall this episode was one of the best I have seen.
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coyo7e posted:If you are above the book, how do you know the reference? I'm not above the book. I mean, it's a book. I'm not sure how one can be above a book. That's a weird way of thinking about it. No, I just hated the book. This isn't the right forum for me to go into detail about it, but it was more than hating it just because it was assigned. I just hated it. Besides, you don't even have to know what the book is about to get the pun. If you're familiar with the title of the book (i.e., if you know the book exists), and you're slightly aware of Margaret Thatcher's political leanings, and you're aware of Theresa May's basic political leanings, and you know that wheat and rye are similar crops, then the pun works just fine.
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Lord Buckethead is a character from a knock off Star Wars film: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0141270/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_11 He also has a youtube page: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel?UCBgM8Esoy99vDtfbNPC2peA
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And from the IMDB page: ""Lord Buckethead" attempted to promote his movie in the UK by standing as a prospective MP for Parliament in both the 1987 and 1992 General Elections. Representing the "Gremloid" party (by which this movie is known in the UK) he stood against Margaret Thatcher in her Finchley constituency and somehow got 131 votes. Five years later in 1992 he stood against the then PM John Major in Huntingdon and got 107 votes. In 2017, 25 years later, he stood again against then PM Theresa May in Maidenhead and got 249 votes." So apparently he isn't a new figure in UK politics. E: holy poo poo, Chris Elliot was one of the leads in that movie? I'm sure it's trash, but I have to see it now. E2: On second thought, Paula Poundstone is also in that movie, so maybe I'll skip it after all. empty baggie fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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I didn't realize that Black Mirror Waldo episode wasn't completely insane still a bad episode tho
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tarlibone posted:I'm not above the book. I mean, it's a book. I'm not sure how one can be above a book. That's a weird way of thinking about it. No, I just hated the book. This isn't the right forum for me to go into detail about it, but it was more than hating it just because it was assigned. I just hated it. I assumed it meant Thatcher was drunk as Julia Childs.
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Tree Dude posted:I didn't realize that Black Mirror Waldo episode wasn't completely insane
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Collateral posted:He never mentioned it but Boris Johnson is an american. Can you please take the plummy shitlord back? Oh poo poo, I had no idea. I know we have some terrible exports, but like Canada, I still want you to apologize first for some reason. <3
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Collateral posted:He never mentioned it but Boris Johnson is an american. Can you please take the plummy shitlord back?
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Sivart13 posted:'born to british parents who were hanging out in america but went back to england' is like, 50% american at best Just think, this means after 2020 we can have President Boris Johnson!  jk 
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Okay look, we let you guys have Boris, can we have Lord Buckethead? I would be just fine with him as president.
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tarlibone posted:I'm not above the book. I mean, it's a book. I'm not sure how one can be above a book. That's a weird way of thinking about it. No, I just hated the book. This isn't the right forum for me to go into detail about it, but it was more than hating it just because it was assigned. I just hated it. coyo7e posted:If you don't know what the book is about, then it's just a pun. That makes it a dad joke. Rather than a funny, or witty, joke. Not to play UNIVERSAL ARBITER OF COMEDY too much but one of these interpretations makes way more sense to me than the other. "Because I assumed she was a drunk" is not a compelling punchline to me.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I feel like the British people are probably trying everything they can to undo Brexit, but there's no mechanic in the system for them to do so even if the public has at large changed its mind after giving its nebulous mandate (not hard to imagine considering the vote went only 52% in favor and that was with joke votes from people who thought it wouldn't happen and idiots who actually financially rely on the EU who may have thought things through since). Actually polling says about 2/3rds of people want to go through with Brexit now, based on 'that's what the vote was, that's what we gotta do'. We had the Lib Dems stand on an explicitly Remain platform in the election and largely get crushed. The main question now is what kind of Brexit we get.
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Burkion posted:Okay look, we let you guys have Boris, can we have Lord Buckethead? surely, there's a better solution: create a world government and Lord Buckethead will lead it
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Elite posted:Not to play UNIVERSAL ARBITER OF COMEDY too much but one of these interpretations makes way more sense to me than the other.
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PenguinKnight posted:surely, there's a better solution: create a world government and Lord Buckethead will lead it We can't have a one world government because that's how the 
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Lord Buckethead is different from the guitarist Buckethead, right?
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coyo7e posted:So you don't feel it's funny to imply Thatcher likes a lot a whiskey, or do you think dadjokes deserve to be lauded? The problem here is that the pun is pretty clear. Thatcher and the current PM have at least superficially similar political leanings, so referring to May as "Thatcher" for the purpose of a joke is easy enough to get behind. Then, remembering that May said that the "naughtiest" thing she'd ever done was run through a wheat field, you can substitute one cereal grain for another... in this case, rye for wheat. Thus, "Thatcher in the Rye" immediately works as a pun on a couple of different levels. Also, the image shown is of Theresa May literally running through a field of golden grain. C'mon, man, they gave you a picture! Now, then there's your version of the joke, which relies on Thatcher's supposed alcoholism (something which I wasn't aware of), her preference for rye whisky (again, something I'm not aware of), and then... uhm... that somehow connects to May? There needs to be another link there. Is May also as big a fan of rye whisky as you know Thatcher to be? Face it. You laughed at the clever joke, patting yourself on the back for getting its depth and breadth, without bothering to actually get the clever joke, which is OK because it wasn't a clever, deep, or broad joke. It was a simple pun. A dad joke, if you will. OK... it was a "broad" joke, I guess. Because they're both broads!! You're welcome. Sincerely, Your 1940s Father. tarlibone fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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It was not a simple pun, it was a superb pun with a political comparison and a callback to an earlier joke. Wordplay is wonderful and not merely the domain of dadjokes.
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PT6A posted:It was not a simple pun, it was a superb pun with a political comparison and a callback to an earlier joke. Wordplay is wonderful and not merely the domain of dadjokes. I stand corrected.
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TXT BOOTY7 2 47474 posted:Lord Buckethead is different from the guitarist Buckethead, right? Probably but we genuinely have no way of telling for sure
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