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babypolis posted:hes the absolute boy keeps popping randomly into my head and it go away and hell can you blame me. corbyn is the best boy and he should get all the dinner egges. which he will then distribute to the working class 
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Jun 14, 2017 07:58
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If baloogan is representative of the Irish, they deserved Cromwell and they deserve the DUP.
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deadgoon posted:If baloogan is representative of the Irish, they deserved Cromwell and they deserve the DUP. He's Canadian. Or so he says in the Trump thread. Maybe that's his thing is popping into various regional threads and claiming to be a close neighbor who's laughing at your country. Has anyone seen him in the Auspol thread claiming to be a New Zealander?
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PostNouveau posted:He's Canadian. he's of catholic scottish/irish heritage and that's the only reason he hates the DUP, if it was because they were crazy evil dumb conservative theocrats he would obiously hate the GOP as well Baloogan posted:cromwell SUCKS and like reasons to hate him have been passed down through the generatiosn in my family so fu Baloogan posted:wtf they dont eat the bread, they dont confess and they don't get baptized?!?!?!?!? Baloogan posted:okay yeah, they ain't christians
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Jun 14, 2017 09:22
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the power of the stone edit: lol quote:Miliband had pledged that if Labour won the election the stone was to have stood in the Downing Street Rose Garden "as a reminder of our duty to keep Labour's promises"
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Jun 14, 2017 09:22
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Haha. The boy throws some powerful shade. 
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Jun 14, 2017 09:39
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:Haha. The boy throws some powerful shade. https://twitter.com/MirrorPolitics/...r%3D459%23pti22
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Jun 14, 2017 10:58
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:right but why? UK constituencies are much smaller (population-wise) than congressional districts, since the House of Commons is bigger than the House of Representatives but represents collectively only about a fifth as many people. so constituencies are much less likely to correspond to communities with their own sense of identity. there are still limits in terms of regions; you probably wouldn't parachute an english MP into a scottish seat for example
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Jun 14, 2017 11:15
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part of the reason labour is such a mess is that during the Blair years rather than have local working class people be candidates and MP's its all come from southern political advisers leading to someone like tristram hunt being an MP for a very working class area. He also crossed a picket line while he was an MP to give a lecture on Marx
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Fallen Hamprince posted:UK constituencies are much smaller (population-wise) than congressional districts, since the House of Commons is bigger than the House of Representatives but represents collectively only about a fifth as many people. so constituencies are much less likely to correspond to communities with their own sense of identity. there are still limits in terms of regions; you probably wouldn't parachute an english MP into a scottish seat for example There is always somewhere just down the road you're better than and some hoity toity fuckers five minutes away by car who think they're so much better than you. To not understand that is to not understand the UK. The reason we have so many carpetbaggers is because the political class doesn't respect the public. This is especially pervasive in Labour in the north of England (and I say this as a Labour supporter in the north of England), where they will send any old Londoner trying to make a name for themselves up here like it's a term in an especially poo poo school during teacher training just to test their mettle. And the end result of that is that ineffectual, disinterested people get put in charge of our region, and funding here is very low because of it. London has Crossrail and all the wonderful train projects that are set to drain the rest of the country of talent 15 minutes quicker each way for only £100bil (money well spent!), NIreland has cash flung at it, Scotland does better per head than England, as does Wales (especially when EU regional funding comes in). Meanwhile public transport that doesn't point directly at London costs a fortune, and is mostly poo poo, anywhere north of Islington. e: ^^ that guy puts it much more concisely and less bitterly than me jBrereton has issued a correction as of 12:05 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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An example of how poo poo northern rail services are is my trip from stoke to Bangor costed more than my hotel for the weekend. A good example of how tribal northern (anywhere North of London that isn't one of the big3counts) England is is to have a look at where notts county, Nottingham forest and derby have their stadiums and remember that people view opposing fans as subhuman.
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British hyperlocal tribalism is something that is almost totally absent outside of the really old money suburbs of colonial America. As a Long Islander you can point at just about any dumb tiny meaningless place on a map and say who's better or worse than your town. It's a vestige of 18th century cultural bullshit I imagine.
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Jun 14, 2017 13:24
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deadgoon posted:he's of catholic scottish/irish heritage and that's the only reason he hates the DUP, if it was because they were crazy evil dumb conservative theocrats he would obiously hate the GOP as well Lol I love that north Americans are way more into their "heritage" than basically anyone else as long as it's not American or Canadian heritage. Loogs right about Cromwell but also doesn't seem to have known about Protestants? I'm not religious but Protestants are way better than dudes who kowtow to the dude living in a golden microstate of pedophiles.
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Jun 14, 2017 13:25
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MODS CURE JOKES posted:British hyperlocal tribalism is something that is almost totally absent outside of the really old money suburbs of colonial America. As a Long Islander you can point at just about any dumb tiny meaningless place on a map and say who's better or worse than your town. It's a vestige of 18th century cultural bullshit I imagine. For Notts vs Forrest look at this image  The people from each stadium bitterly hate each other to the point of fighting in the streets. They view themselves as totally different cultures.
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Jun 14, 2017 13:30
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Actually, they all suck
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nopantsjack posted:Lol I love that north Americans are way more into their "heritage" than basically anyone else as long as it's not American or Canadian heritage. MODS CURE JOKES posted:British hyperlocal tribalism is something that is almost totally absent outside of the really old money suburbs of colonial America. As a Long Islander you can point at just about any dumb tiny meaningless place on a map and say who's better or worse than your town. It's a vestige of 18th century cultural bullshit I imagine.
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Jun 14, 2017 13:34
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jBrereton posted:Constituencies always have their own sense of identity. It's okay to be a yank and not understand that, but it is true. This is true but these identities don't always align with constituency boundaries, especially in more densely populated areas.
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Party Boat posted:This is true but these identities don't always align with constituency boundaries, especially in more densely populated areas.
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Byolante posted:For Notts vs Forrest look at this image What? No they don't. County hate Forest with a burning passion but there aren't fights because County are two leagues below Forest, so Forest fans just have a paternal view of county. Now Forest and *Derby*, that's another story...
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Jun 14, 2017 13:46
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MikeCrotch posted:What? No they don't. County hate Forest with a burning passion but there aren't fights because County are two leagues below Forest, so Forest fans just have a paternal view of county.
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jBrereton posted:I think it's mainly just a function of population density that it's so noticeable. I'm sure your average oklahoma small town in the middle of nowhere has gestalt opinions about the ones up and down the road plus the different native american bands in the area. Same odds. Towns in Oklahoma are way too small to develop those kind of rivalries, and Indian nations are already functionally autonomous so the separation has always been there. Oklahomans hate people from other counties, but mostly people from Texas.
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MikeCrotch posted:What? No they don't. County hate Forest with a burning passion but there aren't fights because County are two leagues below Forest, so Forest fans just have a paternal view of county. Hi friend, Millwall and West Ham aren't in the same division either but the magic of the cup allows them to occasionally have a good ballyhoo. County and Forrest also have the JPT as a possible punch up aside from the league cup and fa cup.
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Yeah, but I live in Nottingham, and comparing the Forest and County rivalry to something on the level of Celtic and Rangers is just flat out wrong. There was one fight recently which is the only one I can remember. The worst I ever encountered was Cardiff and Bristol City, where Cardiff fans would wait in the train station for anyone in a red shirt and jump them. poo poo was nuts.
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MikeCrotch posted:Yeah, but I live in Nottingham, and comparing the Forest and County rivalry to something on the level of Celtic and Rangers is just flat out wrong. There was one fight recently which is the only one I can remember. I'm a stoke fan and used to do all the away legs from 2001-2004. Cardiff trips were always a nightmare. edit: but anyway I was more using notts/forest as an example because they are so close together. Makes a nice image for the yanks.
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norwich and ipswich fans hate each other and incredible amount despite being 50 miles away from each other which is practically another country in american terms i went to an ipswich game that wasn't a derby and felt like a kurd in isis
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Jun 14, 2017 15:15
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norwich is really nice its a shame its a massive pain in the arse to get to
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Ague Proof posted:Where's the Ed Stone now?
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Jose posted:norwich is really nice its a shame its a massive pain in the arse to get to yeah well, dont go to ipswich
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I met a traveller from an antique land Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed: And on the pedestal these words appear: 'CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION'
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...t-a7789951.html 12 dead for property values.
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Jun 14, 2017 17:33
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:12 suffocated and burned alive for property values.
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Jun 14, 2017 17:35
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It took me about a minute of frowning to figure out he means the Tories were being tough but honest. I thought he meant that it was the first time they'd been straight up "nothing for you, corporate tax cuts, if your dad gets dementia we're nicking his house".
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Jun 14, 2017 18:09
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Jun 14, 2017 18:30
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Why? I know it wasn't as good as before 2015 but they did regain a few seats
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Jun 14, 2017 18:51
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Corek posted:Why? I know it wasn't as good as before 2015 but they did regain a few seats Badly-hidden homophobia is the most likely explanation, along with Vince Cable winning a seat.
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Itzena posted:Badly-hidden homophobia is the most likely explanation, along with Vince Cable winning a seat. I mean, he's demonstrably not homophobic from his voting record, but he is a bit lame and we could use a more inspiring figure.
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He's said he can't reconcile being the leader of the Liberal Democrat and his Christian values, so it's absolutely because he's a homophobe and is afraid he's pissed off Jesus with his mealy mouthed half answers on whether he thinks gay sex is a sin. I just hope he is now able to discover the truth about whether or not chemicals are turning the frogs and the fish gay.
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