Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Yeah but it's not in Britain proper, so does it really count?

Bryter posted:

There is no "Britain proper" in a political sense, it's a geographic term. There's a UK, and NI is as much a constituent state of it as England, Scotland and Wales.

Bryter posted:

There is no "Britain proper" in a political sense, it's a geographic term. There's a UK, and NI is as much a constituent state of it as England, Scotland and Wales.

Gum posted:

They attempted to rig the vote by disenfranchising large sections of the Labour electorate

Gum posted:

They attempted to rig the vote by disenfranchising large sections of the Labour electorate

quote:

The outcome is also a rebuke to Mrs. May’s wing of the Conservative Party. This contingent argues the Tories need to shed the “right-wing ideology” of the Margaret Thatcher era. Mrs. May embraced ideas like a cap on household energy prices that were lifted from old Labour manifestos, railed against business, and delivered speeches about “the good that government can do.”

Despite his own ideological malleability, Mr. Cameron and his Chancellor George Osborne rebuilt a Tory majority by lifting the economy from its post-financial crisis mess. They cut tax rates to boost growth and moved toward a balanced budget. Mrs. May temporized about raising taxes. The strategy was to break into traditional Labour strongholds, but that failed as young people came out in big numbers for Mr. Corbyn’s promise of free tuition.

got any sevens posted:

ah, following our lead after all

got any sevens posted:

wow, you brits are a lot more chill than americans. almost half the states have de facto outlawed abortion again

jBrereton posted:

I mean it's got different parties, weaponised christianity and people who wear orange sashes and silly hats but other than that it's basically like here sure.

Bryter posted:

Whether or not it's "like" the rest of the UK isn't the point. We're a constituent country of the UK just as US states comprise the US.

Oh, and Wales and Scotland have different parties to England as well, and the Orange order has plenty of Scottish lodges...

Bryter posted:

Whether or not it's "like" the rest of the UK isn't the point. We're a constituent country of the UK just as US states comprise the US.

Oh, and Wales and Scotland have different parties to England as well, and the Orange order has plenty of Scottish lodges...

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The point is you should just let NI go already you imperiaist fucks

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The point is you should just let NI go already you imperiaist fucks

Gum posted:

Plaid is good

Bryter posted:

I'm an Irish republican...

Bryter posted:

Whether or not it's "like" the rest of the UK isn't the point. We're a constituent country of the UK just as US states comprise the US.

Oh, and Wales and Scotland have different parties to England as well, and the Orange order has plenty of Scottish lodges...

Corny posted:

warning everyone i have a NUCLEAR take coming through!!!

https://www.wsj.com/articles/britains-lesson-for-conservatives-1497027901?mod=e2two

Baloogan posted:

corbyn is super duper bad btw, its just that may is hilariously incompetent

quote:

To begin with, Corbyn has a long history of unsavory associations with anti-Semites. Among other exploits, he has:

— Donated to the organization of Paul Eisen, a Holocaust denier, and appeared at his events. He later claimed he was unaware of Eisen’s unsavory views, despite 15 years of association.

— Defended vicar Stephen Sizer, who disseminated materials arguing the Mossad did 9/11, after he was banned from social media by the Church of England for posting anti-Semitic material.

— Praised preacher Raed Salah and invited him to parliament. Salah claims that Jews make their Passover matzoh with gentile blood, that Jews had foreknowledge of 9/11, and that homosexuality is “a great crime.” He has been banned from the U.K. for anti-Semitic incitement.

— Invited activist Dyab Abou Jahjah to parliament and spoke alongside him. Abou Jahjah had called the 9/11 attacks “sweet revenge,” said Europe made “the cult of the Holocaust and Jew-worshiping its alternative religion,” and called gays “Aids-spreading faggots.” He is now banned in the U.K.

— Campaigned for the release of Jawad Botmeh and Samar Alami, who were convicted in Britain in 1996 for bombing the Israeli Embassy in London and one of the country’s largest Jewish charities.

Taken together, this pattern of behavior suggests a blind spot for anti-Jewish prejudice at best, and incredibly poor judgment in allies and associates at the very least. After all, it is entirely possible to campaign against imperialism and other Western ills without legitimizing anti-Jewish bigots in the halls of parliament. (Suffice to say, if Donald Trump had engaged in such conduct, it would be national news and rightly so.)

jBrereton posted:

Wales and Scotland have regional parties, right, but they still elect Labour, Tory, Lib Dem MPs too, and Plaid and the SNP have pretty secular goals. We just saw the last vestiges of moderate unionism and nationalism in Northern Ireland cleared off the map two days ago.

I mean sure NI is technically in the UK but it's not like the rest of it.

Zikan posted:

https://twitter.com/goodwinmj/status/873508821544652801

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

There was a milliband before Ed right? Does that make Hillary Ed? Is she able to look normal eating a bacon sandwich this is important

Terror Sweat posted:

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/873567635291504642

goodwin ate the book

babypolis posted:

hes the absolute boy keeps popping randomly into my head and it go away and hell can you blame me. corbyn is the best boy and he should get all the dinner egges. which he will then distribute to the working class

Heavy_D posted:

His father way, way before (although he was never leader) but I think you're talking about David Milliband. The pair are brothers, and they ran against each other in the leadership contest. David was the more experienced and favoured to win, but Ed beat him due to greater union support. David then quit front-line politics (in a strop?)

quote:

I will knock on a door in a leafy village and they will say 'my nephew's gay – you've just joined with a party who hates gays. Then I will spend 20 minutes explaining it's confidence and supply. By which time I've lost.

There's a generation who do not understand how toxic it is. I'm not going to go down with this ship.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

https://twitter.com/politico/status/873459716478906368

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Bryter posted:

got any sevens posted:

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Jose posted:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/tory-mps-are-really-worried-they-could-be-tarnished-by-the?utm_term=.ca6EKQKAv#.gjPlyGyXJ


get hosed tories

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