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Pinterest Mom posted:The iPod phone was losing support. The executives debated which project to pursue, but Phil Schiller, Apple’s head of marketing, had an answer: Neither. He wanted a keyboard with hard buttons. The BlackBerry was arguably the first hit smartphone. It had an email client and a tiny hard keyboard. After everyone else, including Fadell, started to agree that multitouch was the way forward, Schiller became the lone holdout.
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holy poo poo the lomarf car is real
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Jun 13, 2017 22:30
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Stymie posted:lol the ipad surface 2 
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Jun 13, 2017 22:41
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im starting to think Phil Schiller is an idiot of sorts he's did the courage speech, the "can't innovate my rear end" where three years later turned out they didn't innovate anything and in fact almost ruined the pro market now this... to be fair I also really liked my blackberry keyboard, but I am a proven idiot so
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Jun 13, 2017 23:39
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starting to think? lol
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Jun 13, 2017 23:40
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:to be fair I also really liked my blackberry keyboard, but I am a proven idiot so lots of people did, you can count them to the man looking at bby's sales the last five years. because they sure as gently caress weren't buying a blackberry for anything else
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Jun 14, 2017 14:54
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https://twitter.com/iFixit/status/874785166635311104 the "pro" is for "probably should have gotten a surface"
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Jun 14, 2017 16:30
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ufarn posted:https://twitter.com/iFixit/status/874785166635311104 the newest surface has 21ms latency
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Jun 14, 2017 16:36
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lmao i love john fireball's insatiable need to explain away every little thing apple does
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Jun 14, 2017 16:54
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im the sharp eyed child
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Jun 14, 2017 17:18
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tony denies the keyboard story https://twitter.com/tfadell/status/874898665734844420
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Jun 14, 2017 17:24
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Reminder that "Inside Apple" books often use outrageous, untrue claims to try increasing sales, and that a lot of former employees will have axes to grind against remaining employees and management. The author of one those Apple Is Doomed books tweeted something like, "Wow, what an underwhelming WWDC keynote! Buy my book to find out why!" after one year's WWDC keynote, except that it was a great keynote. And then someone discovered that she had used a time-delay tweeting service. In other words, she had written that tweet before the keynote, with the service set to post it after it was over. Doc Block fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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Jun 14, 2017 17:59
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i thought not having a physical keyboard was real stupid when the iphone came out too
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Jun 14, 2017 18:17
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ufarn posted:https://twitter.com/iFixit/status/874785166635311104 Idgi. Is there something wrong with these Pros? My 2015 12.9 isn't this janky. Or wait, is it that you have to look at it at 240fps to see the 20ms latency, which is something literally nobody but nit picky autists would care about? I don't really know anything about computers.
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Jun 14, 2017 18:36
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:Idgi. Is there something wrong with these Pros? My 2015 12.9 isn't this janky. Or wait, is it that you have to look at it at 240fps to see the 20ms latency, which is something literally nobody but nit picky autists would care about? yeah, surprisingly when you slow a video to 1/8 or 1/4 of real speed it looks slow and laggy!!!
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Jun 14, 2017 18:45
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:Idgi. Is there something wrong with these Pros? My 2015 12.9 isn't this janky. Or wait, is it that you have to look at it at 240fps to see the 20ms latency, which is something literally nobody but nit picky autists would care about? 8ms latency killed rhythm games. All monitor display techonlogy sucks. Bring back CRT. Make CRT tablets.
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Jun 14, 2017 18:46
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Astoundingly Ugly Baby posted:Idgi. Is there something wrong with these Pros? My 2015 12.9 isn't this janky. Or wait, is it that you have to look at it at 240fps to see the 20ms latency, which is something literally nobody but nit picky autists would care about? you misspelled "artists"
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Jun 14, 2017 18:48
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Sudden Loud Noise posted:8ms latency killed rhythm games. All monitor display techonlogy sucks. Bring back CRT. Make CRT tablets. rhythm games are 99.5% memorization, lag would only matter the first time you did a song
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Jun 14, 2017 19:00
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Endless Mike posted:yeah, surprisingly when you slow a video to 1/8 or 1/4 of real speed it looks slow and laggy!!! GameCube posted:you misspelled "artists" Oh, alright.
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Jun 14, 2017 19:14
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Perplx posted:the 4 was feature complete (minus 3d touch), all iphones since are just spec bumps touchid my friend
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Jun 14, 2017 19:17
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mishaq posted:touchid my friend that gets you unlocked faster but doesn't change the fundamentals of using a smartphone
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Jun 14, 2017 19:33
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Perplx posted:that gets you unlocked faster but doesn't change the fundamentals of using a smartphone having a secure phone by default changes the smartphone significantly. most people didn't have passwords before Touch ID.
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Jun 14, 2017 19:35
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remember samsung's first attempt to copy touch id and it turned out it was storing unencrypted jpegs of your fingerprint on the phone 
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Jun 14, 2017 19:37
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Perplx posted:that gets you unlocked faster but doesn't change the fundamentals of using a smartphone "something that changes and improves the fundamental way that one starts using the phone doesn't change the fundamentals of using a smart phone"
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Jun 14, 2017 19:39
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THC posted:remember samsung's first attempt to copy touch id and it turned out it was storing unencrypted jpegs of your fingerprint on the phone that was htc though i suppose samsung might have also
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Jun 14, 2017 19:46
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Endless Mike posted:that was htc Samsung did the same but with irises you could just print one and the phone would unlock
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Jun 14, 2017 19:59
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Samsung also did that hilarious Knox software which had a password vault and the whole thing was encrypted with some trivial default key that was sitting in the app's metadata
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Jun 14, 2017 20:12
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Dislike button posted:i thought not having a physical keyboard was real stupid when the iphone came out too i still think that iphones are worse at most of the things i used phones for before getting an iphone; it just doesn't matter because it turns out that the phone is pretty much the least important part of the iphone.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:18
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Plorkyeran posted:i still think that iphones are worse at most of the things i used phones for before getting an iphone; it just doesn't matter because it turns out that the phone is pretty much the least important part of the iphone. what?
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Jun 14, 2017 20:27
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battery life, signal, and in some cases ease of use are worse compared to a flip phone or whatever (never mind that other smartphones existed and were terrible at ABSOLUTELY everything instead of just some things) but for most people those drawbacks don't matter when you have a computer in your pocket
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Jun 14, 2017 20:50
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a pre-iphone bb was vastly better than a modern iphone at making and receiving phone calls and texting people, between a better keyboard, better battery life, better reception, and a more focused interface, so i think the criticisms of the iphone that looked at it as a bb replacement were right in a way. it's just that it doesn't matter because an iphone is actually a pocket computer that happens to be able to make phone calls.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:57
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:Samsung also did that hilarious Knox software which had a password vault and the whole thing was encrypted with some trivial default key that was sitting in the app's metadata I just got a recruiter email from that team so I guess they're still digging on that one
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Jun 14, 2017 21:15
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i see samsung knox ads in the metro targeted to dod acquisition types all the time. they're never gonna stop
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Jun 14, 2017 21:22
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it's important to remember that at the time the iphone came out blackberry, nokia series 60 and windows mobile were locked in a titanic struggle for market dominance and the sidekick was a niche device for weird nerds and "urbans," the idea of a general purpose wireless internet device was relegated to niche devices like the nokia 770 or weird psions and zauri
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Jun 14, 2017 21:24
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its not ridiculous to think that a kickass qwerty hard keyboard was a critical requirement for a successful smartphone in 2005, particularly before the multitouch team was able to demonstrate a fully working prototype
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Jun 14, 2017 21:33
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the physical keyboard/trackball paradigm is still complete poo poo even in the best implementation because of the inherent drawbacks to the form factor and Steve was right to reject it and everyone else was too cowardly
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Jun 14, 2017 21:36
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Jun 14, 2017 21:44
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I sat through a 7 hour training session yesterday where the presenter used a mouse and keyboard with mspaint (not the new 3dpaint version which it was telling him to use in the upper corner) to whiteboard network diagrams on a new surface pro by cut and paste I was living in that one loving achewood strip and the surface is a failed platform
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Jun 14, 2017 21:59
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:a 7 hour training session
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Plorkyeran posted:a pre-iphone bb was vastly better than a modern iphone at making and receiving phone calls and texting people, between a better keyboard, better battery life, better reception, and a more focused interface, so i think the criticisms of the iphone that looked at it as a bb replacement were right in a way. it's just that it doesn't matter because an iphone is actually a pocket computer that happens to be able to make phone calls. wrong
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