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paranoid randroid posted:Goatstein finally snapped  we'll never see the steampunk wedding photos
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SKULL.GIF posted:Mark Ames hosed children. my condolences
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ex post facho posted:just to reiterate, the first fbi investo was due to a fyad post, since this gets conflsted with lf a lot wasn't the thread OPd by maggotmaster, LF's Stalin-level cult of personality?
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SKULL.GIF posted:Mark Ames hosed children. Mark Ames is extremely loving weird to me. he does interviews talking about the long tradition of American conservative entanglement with Russian oligarchic interests, and then the next day goes on twitter to bitch about how this Russia thing is a big nothingburger hes got some kind of advanced form of Greenwaldism, is my theory
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punk rebel ecks posted:Wait what happened about a shooting? someone shot a racist senator. he was a democrat. that makes him the most evil person in the world and dems a hateful party (ignores all the violent repubs we've had)
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paranoid randroid posted:Mark Ames is extremely loving weird to me. he does interviews talking about the long tradition of American conservative entanglement with Russian oligarchic interests, and then the next day goes on twitter to bitch about how this Russia thing is a big nothingburger It's because the Russia hacking story and the corruption ties are two completely different things.
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SKULL.GIF posted:What a disgustingly stupid piece of poo poo. it's weird, before the primary reid was a fairly anodyne liberal but bernie really broke something in her brain
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's because the Russia hacking story and the corruption ties are two completely different things. he doesnt make much of a distinction between the two, from what ive seen
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Condiv posted:someone shot a racist senator. he was a democrat. that makes him the most evil person in the world and dems a hateful party (ignores all the violent repubs we've had) also if news reports are accurate he may be killed off by the very healthcare system he wants destroyed lol
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Radio War Nerd is a good podcast and most of the Democrats pretending like Russia and the GOP are committing "acts of war" should not be surprised when someone believes them.
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Casual Encountess posted:hey guys what's going in in this thread? radicalizing the next JTH itt
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Casual Encountess posted:hey guys what's going in in this thread? we're discussing how a man who injured people is very bad and evil, but a man who votes to kill and injure people on the regular is an innocent victim of violence
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Casual Encountess posted:hey guys what's going in in this thread? Shooting the poo poo.
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paranoid randroid posted:he doesnt make much of a distinction between the two, from what ive seen Well on the one hand you have the regular incestuous ties between global capital, and on the other you have a claim that the Kremlin runs the White House.
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paranoid randroid posted:Mark Ames is extremely loving weird to me. he does interviews talking about the long tradition of American conservative entanglement with Russian oligarchic interests, and then the next day goes on twitter to bitch about how this Russia thing is a big nothingburger brains fried by krokodil & piss tapes
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NewForumSoftware posted:War Nerd is a good No.
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Jazerus posted:brains fried by krokodil & piss tapes And STDs from Russian child prostitutes.
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https://twitter.com/MacMargi/status/875065076281114624 every time
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I wonder what the ratio is of shootings that someone with a job in politics or media tried to blame Bernie Sanders for to total shootings that have occurred since 2015 over 60 million killed by Bernie Sanders' invention, the gun oh hey "urban" as a dogwhistle, that's fun
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Radio War Nerd is good and if you don't like it that just proves my point
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Condiv posted:someone shot a racist senator. he was a democrat. that makes him the most evil person in the world and dems a hateful party (ignores all the violent repubs we've had) counterpoint: steve scalise is a representative
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he he he he he he he someday white people will realize that other white people are more dangerous to them then the browns
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:on the other hand, sanders' abandonment of marxism-leninism emboldens such individualist terror
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:counterpoint: steve scalise is a representative so was giffords. for some reason repubs didn't take the blame for that although they literally used violent rhetoric wrt her
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Concerned Citizen posted:I mean, I think single payer is great. If we could pass it tomorrow I'd be over the moon. I just think other countries have implemented alternate paths to true UHC and I'm not going to dismiss those as neoliberal plots, especially if they might be easier to achieve in a political sense. I think $15/h minimum wage is great but it's too low for some areas and - having grown up in one of the most impoverished areas of the country - I worry it might have negative effects in parts of the country that have median wages lower than that. I think free college tuition is great and we should absolutely do it, but I also think our college system inherently disadvantages the poor and we should look at overhauling the whole thing to fast track people who want to be fast tracked directly into skilled labor careers. In general, I think I'm to the left of Clinton but not I'm not strictly with the left of the party. I think I largely share the same values and goals with the left. I think that in many cases what bothers people (and I don't think you're that bad in this regard, especially compared with most) is that they express these views solely as opposition to whatever leftists are saying. Like, I think there's a difference between responding to someone talking about single payer with "well I think single payer won't work because X, Y, and Z" and responding with "I think there are alternative forms of universal healthcare that might be better, because X, Y and Z." The latter at least makes it clear that you realize there's a problem and that fixing it is important. With regard to the college thing, it's better to say something like "I think free public college is a good idea, but it's also important we do X, because not everyone goes to college", because if you just say "But what about people who don't go to college?" it comes off as just being contrarian and trying to deflect. Again, you're usually pretty good about this. But I think this general unhelpful attitude of just being contrarian towards anything people on the left offer is a large cause of negative sentiment among leftists towards liberals in discussions like this (and I think that in most cases the leftists are entirely correct when they assume liberals aren't really serious about addressing these problems). Oh, and as a side note I wanted to ask about this point: "I think $15/h minimum wage is great but it's too low for some areas and - having grown up in one of the most impoverished areas of the country - I worry it might have negative effects in parts of the country that have median wages lower than that." Is your concern that poor areas with high levels of unemployment will suffer due to increased costs caused by increasing minimum wage? Otherwise I'm not really sure how any possible negative effects would ever offset the direct positive impact of the increased wages. Concerned Citizen posted:Yeah it's called nuance. When "I like X but have you considered problems Y and Z?" becomes a common pattern in discussions, people begin to doubt the person's sincerity towards addressing those problems (because they focus the vast majority of their effort on just nay-saying other peoples' attempts at proposing solutions). In many cases these points may even be correct, but it ultimately comes off as disingenuous when someone claims to care about an issue but puts more effort towards shooting down possible solutions than proposing their own. Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 20:28 on Jun 14, 2017 |
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zegermans posted:also if news reports are accurate he may be killed off by the very healthcare system he wants destroyed lol wait i thought he got shot in the hip? is he actually close to dying
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wait i thought he got shot in the hip? is he actually close to dying There's a lot of poo poo all over your body you don't want torn up by a bullet.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wait i thought he got shot in the hip? is he actually close to dying there was an AP tweet that said he was critical post-surgery. The hip has a lot of blood that can cause all sorts of fun strokes and embolisms.
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GalacticAcid posted:James T Hodgkinson was taking college classes between writing letters to the editor.
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:Was the DSA thread closed because of their newfound ties to terrorism? 
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Yeah why was the DSA thread closed it served as a nice blowoff of frustrated angry internet people thinking they were doing anything important
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wait i thought he got shot in the hip? is he actually close to dying right on the inside of your thighs are your femoral arteries. lots of important tubes hangin out in those ample hips goin to all sorts of important places not to mention bone fragments shooting into everything from impact
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