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Hollismason posted:What's the absolute worst position. Trump will take because he is going to take that one. "Scalisi shot in hip and fine, gets press. Nothing in FAKE NEWS about how I am ATTACKED daily by judges over muslim ban to keep us safe! BAD!"
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skylined! posted:reminder the pepes are pussies I'm so glad I decided years ago never to say anything online that I wouldn't be prepared to either back up in public or rescind and apologize for if I was wrong. This is profound cowardice.
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Radish posted:Also political capital is dead (if it ever existed). This guy getting compassion for being attacked isn't going to result in people suddenly being ok with a loathsome health care vote. The principle of not giving into political terrorism and letting violence dictate legislative outcomes is important to preserve. The AHCA should probably pass after the shooting as a show of national unity against political terrorism. If it doesn't, then it could damage our political institutions and comity for decades.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:20
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Serfer posted:I don't think I'll ever feel safe going to a pizza place. Or a school. Or a holocaust museum. Or an office building. Or you know, the hundreds of places where people get shot every day in America. i don't think people get shot at the holocaust museum EVERY day
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Jun 14, 2017 20:20
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Trump has already tweeted about the shooting. He just went all in with Thoughts and Prayers and left it at that.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:20
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:We shouldn't back down from passing healthcare reform because someone shot at our elected officials. So you'd gently caress over millions out of spite?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The principle of not giving into political terrorism and letting violence dictate legislative outcomes is important to preserve. The AHCA should probably pass after the shooting as a show of national unity against political terrorism. If it doesn't, then it could damage our political institutions and comity for decades. This only matters if there isn't a good reason for not voting on something. The bill's a piece of poo poo nobody but paul ryan wants. A shooting does not matter for that vote.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:22
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The principle of not giving into political terrorism and letting violence dictate legislative outcomes is important to preserve. The AHCA should probably pass after the shooting as a show of national unity against political terrorism. If it doesn't, then it could damage our political institutions and comity for decades. are you willing to remind me if this is a persona you like to do when people that do not normally participate in the thread, come to participate or like, is this really you
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Jun 14, 2017 20:24
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump has already tweeted about the shooting. He just went all in with Thoughts and Prayers and left it at that. Wait until he gets jealous of all the attention and praise the wounded get.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:24
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Anyone got a way to get the Box Score for that Republican game? It's my birthday and I want to frame it.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:24
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Jun 14, 2017 20:25
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The principle of not giving into political terrorism and letting violence dictate legislative outcomes is important to preserve. The AHCA should probably pass after the shooting as a show of national unity against political terrorism. If it doesn't, then it could damage our political institutions and comity for decades. The Republicans can pass the AHCA however they like without people being sad their whip got shot at a softball game. No regular person is going to change their attitude about it because of this. Useless political pundits that care about political institutions are irrelevant.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:25
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TheKingofSprings posted:So you'd gently caress over millions out of spite? They'd gently caress millions of people regardless, spite is just added bonus now.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:26
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Jun 14, 2017 20:26
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TheKingofSprings posted:So you'd gently caress over millions out of spite? It’s funny how many people here are completely lacking humor or a way to detect gimmick posters. It’s that guy’s lame gimmick, he’s been doing it for a while now.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:26
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screamin and creamin posted:It’s funny how many people here are completely lacking humor or a way to detect gimmick posters. It’s that guy’s lame gimmick, he’s been doing it for a while now. It's more that reality has become so ridiculous that it's almost impossible to tell what is or is not a joke.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:28
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The GOP must be panicking about that House seat race. God I can't wait to see the aftermath. Unfortunately even if we win in Georgia someone like McMagic will freak out that we'll probably lose that race in South Carolina
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:This only matters if there isn't a good reason for not voting on something. The bill's a piece of poo poo nobody but paul ryan wants. A shooting does not matter for that vote. not having any good reason to do it didnt stop congress from authorizing the war in iraq on the exact same principle
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screamin and creamin posted:It’s funny how many people here are completely lacking humor or a way to detect gimmick posters. It’s that guy’s lame gimmick, he’s been doing it for a while now. I don't give a poo poo if it's a gimmick because it's a dumb gimmick, "I was only pretending to be retarded" is old and outplayed. In a world where people are "ironically" advocating for a myriad of racist bullshit and a man rode to become the shittiest president in history on a wave of "irony" I'm pretty loving done with the concept. Shimrra Jamaane posted:Trump has already tweeted about the shooting. He just went all in with Thoughts and Prayers and left it at that. I'm thinking a staffer took the wheel of his account for that and we'll see the real Donald Trump take in a day or two.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The GOP must be panicking about that House seat race. God I can't wait to see the aftermath. Ooh I don't think anyone's had this hot take yet: with only a week until the special election, this shooting will swing momentum back to the GOP and Ossoff will lose.
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Jun 14, 2017 20:30
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CNN drawing the same battle lines Fox drew. Very pleasant summer in store.
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Koyaanisgoatse posted:Ooh I don't think anyone's had this hot take yet: with only a week until the special election, this shooting will swing momentum back to the GOP and Ossoff will lose. Plenty of time for Ossof to find a convenient reporter to assault, don't write it off yet!
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Jun 14, 2017 20:33
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"Entitled white loser with anger problem who treated women like things" is the appropriate label for almost every mass shooter, probably including the one who shot up a UPS shop today.
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Robot Hobo posted:Don't think of him ownership as a hobby or a right, think of it as a religion. As stupid as that sounds, it'll get you closer to the truth than whatever logic you may try applying to it. ^^^^^^ This might sound like grand hyperbole but i can assure it is not. Okay, story time- My friend's dad last week was watering a plant that grew over his arbor, and stepped onto a slightly buried stone do get some height. He (A bit of a heavy guy) slipped and came down on both kneecaps smack on concrete. He got carted off to surgery and I'm a nice guy  so I offered to feed his cats while he's on the mend. I knew the guy carries all the time all the time. He's got two gigantic solid safes of firearms of all sorts. Not a gun nut, a collector and a level-headed dude. Worst he ever does is go shooting with his buddies at the range. Well, a week later we got to cart his busted-rear end home and set him up to hobble around with his walker. He is doped up on the good painkillers, has to use one of those framed pseudo-toilet thingies, and still, still insists on having a pistol on him at all times. I had to argue with this dude about which was more important to have on his person should he fall, a pistol or a telephone. They are venerated objects. 
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Jun 14, 2017 20:35
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Serious question: is Trump a worse president than Buchanan? E: Bonus question: Yet?
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TheKingofSprings posted:So you'd gently caress over millions out of spite? Donald Trump is destroying the fabric of our political institutions. Preserving them should be our highest priority so that the damage Trump does can be undone by a future President. Establishing a precedent that violence against political leaders can change legislative outcomes is far more damaging to America than making sure people in Kentucky can still get methodone for free.
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Serious question: is Trump a worse president than Buchanan? Probably not yet, but very very likely to be worse by the end of the term
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Serious question: is Trump a worse president than Buchanan? Beating Buchanan without a civil war or a succesful equivalent of Dredd Scott is really hard, so not yet.
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KickerOfMice posted:^^^^^^ My grandmother is on muscle relaxers and the first time she took one she called me saying she couldn't find her dog so I went over and her dog greeted me at the door and my grandma was all "I can't find my dog." Turns out he was next to her looking everywhere she did while she was looking for him  My point is, dogs are cool, drug side effects are not, and I wish I had one of those toilet chairs next to my bed.
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Didn't AHCA pass by one vote? Would it pass reconciliation having lost a vote?
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Didn't AHCA pass by one vote? Would it pass reconciliation having lost a vote? Doubtful. If the GOP wanted to they could have whipped one more yea rather than let someone have cover for 2018.
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Serious question: is Trump a worse president than Buchanan? Trump might not yet be a worse President than Reagan considering he can't not gently caress up every awful thing he tries to do. Jesus gently caress Reagan wrecked sooo much poo poo but because he did it with a personable facade people on both sides of the aisle think we'll of him.
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Push El Burrito posted:My grandmother is on muscle relaxers and the first time she took one she called me saying she couldn't find her dog so I went over and her dog greeted me at the door and my grandma was all "I can't find my dog." Turns out he was next to her looking everywhere she did while she was looking for him 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Donald Trump is destroying the fabric of our political institutions. Preserving them should be our highest priority so that the damage Trump does can be undone by a future President. how do you know so much about the shooters motives
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There Bias Two posted:It's more that reality has become so ridiculous that it's almost impossible to tell what is or is not a joke. Actually you're just really dumb.
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Unoriginal Name posted:I'd like to point out that, historically, punching was not what stopped the Nazis (or slave owners) Are you saying we need more firebombing and massed rocket strikes?
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Serious question: is Trump a worse president than Buchanan? Buchanan sucked rear end, but at least he was familiar with geopolitical relations, having served as the ambassador to the U.K. I would argue Trump is more damaging to American politics in the long run because his appointment does away with the idea that the presidency is a position of experience, or at the very least profession. Outsider candidates can be good, but giving the job to a reality television show star/boardgame mascot/sharper image spokesman has truly changed the concept of what being "presidential" means.
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Sinteres posted:Sounds like this is more serious than we thought. Scalise is a piece of poo poo but I hope he recovers and becomes a better person for this.
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skylined! posted:gun violence and the proliferation of gun ownership in the us is a very tough thing to solve for. there is no one factor that is to blame in every instance of gun violence but mental illness coupled with the availability of guns seems to be a huge factor in perpetuating the epidemic, and facts bear that out. ReidRansom posted:Scalise is a piece of poo poo but I hope he recovers and becomes a better person for this.
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ReidRansom posted:Scalise is a piece of poo poo but I hope he recovers and becomes a better person for this. Why is liberalism so hopelessly utopian?
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