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Brainiac Five posted:I like that the argument "internment was justified because Japan attacked us, maaaaaan" is straight-up ignored by the Bernouts, the most moral political ideology in the world.
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Me: It's defending internment to say that Japan being at war with the USA is at all relevant to internment. Bernie Voter: u a child molesting rapist and nazi Mods: *ban me with "pedophile fascist" as the reason*
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Jun 15, 2017 00:10
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rudatron posted:No one said that? The argument was that comparing Hillary loving Clinton to FDR was really really stupid and self serving. Learn to read rudatron hahaha.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:11
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Fortunately the Democratic party didn't used to be a personality cult for career politicians, so it was able to change and recognise that internment was wrong, and condemn it. Rather than demanding Japanese internment and Jim Crow be respected forever because FDR was doing them or at least fine with it happening during his administration.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:12
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Brainiac Five posted:I like that the argument "internment was justified because Japan attacked us, maaaaaan" is straight-up ignored by the Bernouts, the most moral political ideology in the world. I ignored it because he used it to differentiate two positions rather than outright state that internment was good. It's fair to infer he might be defending internment from his post and ask him to clarify, but nobody approaching this debate honestly really believes Majorian thinks internment is cool because we have context on his beliefs from other posts he's made so nobody has bothered. I'm sure if someone being genuine asked him to clarify he would just say "no internment was not good" and we'd have wasted our time asking.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:16
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I like the "career politicians" in that, as if the ideal society rejected division of labor.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:16
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Futuresight posted:I ignored it because he used it to differentiate two positions rather than outright state that internment was good. It's fair to infer he might be defending internment from his post and ask him to clarify, but nobody approaching this debate honestly really believes Majorian thinks internment is cool because we have context on his beliefs from other posts he's made so nobody has bothered. I'm sure if someone being genuine asked him to clarify he would just say "no internment was not good" and we'd have wasted our time asking. So the argument is that Majorian is so loving stupid he defended internment entirely by accident. Why do you let this guy post again?
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Jun 15, 2017 00:17
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Please, b5, just stop undermining democracy across the globe! I know you like to destroy peoples lives for fun, but just show some mercy!
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Jun 15, 2017 00:17
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Brainiac Five posted:So the argument is that Majorian is so loving stupid he defended internment entirely by accident. Why do you let this guy post again? You have become literally incapable of reading reality correctly anymore, I'm so sorry for your loss. B5, please stop defending Hillary Clinton's slave owning.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:17
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WampaLord posted:You have become literally incapable of reading reality correctly anymore, I'm so sorry for your loss. I want you to explain how "Japan attacked us" is at all relevant to the question, WampaLord. Don't assume that Majorian must be good because he joins in your snuff fantasies about Hillary Clinton. Just explain that, if you have enough brains to.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:19
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Please effec, just please, PLEASE, stop raping starving african war orphans.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:20
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This is what a defense of slavery looks like:rudatron posted:FDR died like 70 years ago, was a great statesman who made a lot of positive changes. Internment wasn't great, but in the context of the time wasn't that noticeable.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:20
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Brainiac Five posted:I want you to explain how "Japan attacked us" is at all relevant to the question, WampaLord. Don't assume that Majorian must be good because he joins in your snuff fantasies about Hillary Clinton. Just explain that, if you have enough brains to. You've caught me, I actually lust for Japanese internment and can't wait until Bernie unveils it as his main strategy plank for 2020. How about go back and read the posts again, but somehow do it while not being you? e: VVVV 
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Jun 15, 2017 00:21
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Nosfereefer posted:Please effec, just please, PLEASE, stop raping starving african war orphans. It warms the cockles of my heart to think that posting like this is what the crack team of mods and admins believe is the height of discourse.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:21
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WampaLord posted:You've caught me, I actually lust for Japanese internment and can't wait until Bernie unveils it as his main strategy plank for 2020. That didn't answer the question, especially since you assumed I was accusing you rather than Majorian and rudatron. Don't be so paranoid.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:22
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Brainiac Five posted:It warms the cockles of my heart to think that posting like this is what the crack team of mods and admins believe is the height of discourse. I see that you still condone the sexual exploitation of african war orphans. nice eff, nice
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Jun 15, 2017 00:25
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Brainiac Five posted:That didn't answer the question, especially since you assumed I was accusing you rather than Majorian and rudatron. Don't be so paranoid. Majorian doesn't condone Japanese internment. No one in this thread is defending/condoning Japanese internment. If anyone is/was, I stand corrected, but I feel confident in making that claim.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:25
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JeffersonClay posted:This is what a defense of slavery looks like: No it's not. That is what defending FDR looks like. You can defend people without defending the bad things they did. For example by pointing out the good things they did alongside the bad. Like in the post you quoted.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:25
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btw, eff, you still haven't answered for your recent torture of a newborn babe
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Jun 15, 2017 00:27
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WampaLord posted:Majorian doesn't condone Japanese internment. No one in this thread is defending/condoning Japanese internment. If anyone is/was, I stand corrected, but I feel confident in making that claim. Can you answer the loving question? Can you think for just one goddamn minute out of your life? Can you stop engaging in reflexive apologetics for the grunting CHUDs who post in this thread about how much they're obsessed with a 70something woman?
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Jun 15, 2017 00:27
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I find it hard to believe 'people are a product of their time' is proving that controversial.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:27
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Futuresight posted:No it's not. That is what defending FDR looks like. You can defend people without defending the bad things they did. For example by pointing out the good things they did alongside the bad. Like in the post you quoted. Calling internment "not that noticeable" defends it. Rudatron doing so, given that he defends the Stolen Generations and believes in "honor culture", is unsurprising.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:28
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Brainiac Five posted:Can you answer the loving question? Can you think for just one goddamn minute out of your life? Can you stop engaging in reflexive apologetics for the grunting CHUDs who post in this thread about how much they're obsessed with a 70something woman? Can you have an honest discussion without projecting whatever insane views you have onto everyone else? Reading way too much crazy into words that express none? Stop defending centrists? All this and more on the B5 show!
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Jun 15, 2017 00:29
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I didn't do either of those things my man.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:29
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Interning tens of thousands of people for being Japanese is a lot like wearing a leisure suit or dancing to the Charleston, I guess.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:29
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effectronia just wants to lick the virgin blood of a thousand youths, and still have not apologized for this atrocity. you are a sick human being, eff
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Jun 15, 2017 00:30
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WampaLord posted:Can you have an honest discussion without projecting whatever insane views you have onto everyone else? Reading way too much crazy into words that express none? Stop defending centrists? So, you refuse to think about why Majorian's statement would be relevant to his post. If you all refuse to think about anything, can you really be said to be human?
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Jun 15, 2017 00:31
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why does effectronica support grinding all people of african decent into dog meat?
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Jun 15, 2017 00:31
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Brainiac Five posted:I want you to explain how "Japan attacked us" is at all relevant to the question, WampaLord. Don't assume that Majorian must be good because he joins in your snuff fantasies about Hillary Clinton. Just explain that, if you have enough brains to. It makes it a very different type of wrong. "I interred the Japanese people in our country when we went to war with Japan due to war-time paranoia." and "I used black inmates as slaves and justified their use with phrenology because it was convenient to use them as slaves." Are very different types of wrong. Both wrong of course. But the second reveals just a complete callousness and willingness to use anybody for any reason if it helps you. The first one is fear. Fear makes people do some dumb poo poo. Especially when the stakes are huge like in a world war. The second one was done in cold blood to save money.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:31
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why does eff never respond to these critical points? well, eff might be an isis militant
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Jun 15, 2017 00:32
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c'mon, eff, at least own up to your support of lynching, you sick bastard
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Jun 15, 2017 00:33
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Brainiac Five posted:So, you refuse to think about why Majorian's statement would be relevant to his post. If you all refuse to think about anything, can you really be said to be human? Unlike you I don't devote vast portions of my day reading into every word on every post to find the least charitable interpretation of it and then accuse the poster of being a terrible opinion haver.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:33
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Futuresight posted:No it's not. That is what defending FDR looks like. You can defend people without defending the bad things they did. For example by pointing out the good things they did alongside the bad. Like in the post you quoted. lol the post I quoted said it happened a long time ago and it wasn't noteworthy given the social mores of the time. That's the archetypal defense of slavery.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:34
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Futuresight posted:It makes it a very different type of wrong. So in other words, internment was justifiable and excusable. Wow, I am sure WampaLord will apologize and admit he was wrong any second now.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:34
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WampaLord posted:Unlike you I don't devote vast portions of my day reading into every word on every post to find the least charitable interpretation of it and then accuse the poster of being a terrible opinion haver. If it takes you most of a day to think about a single sentence, you are legally a sea urchin.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:35
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JeffersonClay posted:lol the post I quoted said it happened a long time ago and it wasn't noteworthy given the social mores of the time. That's the archetypal defense of slavery.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:37
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Brainiac Five posted:So in other words, internment was justifiable and excusable. Wow, I am sure WampaLord will apologize and admit he was wrong any second now. A loving perfect example of you reading what you want to see and not actually reading the post. Here's the important part: Futuresight posted:Both wrong of course.
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Jun 15, 2017 00:37
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braniac five actually evicted a mexican family because he didnt like the color of their skin
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Jun 15, 2017 00:37
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i love the fact that eff actually owns an estate with a million slave workers
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Jun 15, 2017 00:38
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WampaLord posted:A loving perfect example of you reading what you want to see and not actually reading the post. Here's the important part: Shoving people is also wrong, so clearly shoving someone is identical to internment. Leaving alone the idea that actively imprisoning a hundred thousand people for their race is somehow morally better than passively observing racism and making racist comments about it.
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