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Your first thought when it comes to right-wing american violence isn't Oklahoma City?
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If he wasn't a Congressman, he'd be dealing with hospital bills and bankruptcy for the rest of his life.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:04
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You'd think gun nuts would be cheering the guy who exercised the constitutional rights they claim to need guns for.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:04
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Fulchrum posted:Name one time Republicans weren't dehumanizing when talking about Democrats at any point after 2006. Hell, Eric Trump literally said last week "Democrats are not people". I find it interesting that despite the rise of the Tea Party, a lot of Members of Congress are still across-the-aisle friends, even if bipartisan lawmaking is uncommon these days. Like one of Scalise's close friends is Cedric Richmond, a Democrat. The chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, even.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:05
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Yeah, this doesn't exactly sound like it originated with a credible source. Is anyone here familiar enough with port security to weigh in on whether this kind of response is normal even if the CG doesn't think the information is reliable? A 1NM safety zone sounds pretty extreme to me, but I know literally nothing about port operations so maybe this is just normal "better safe than sorry" procedure.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:05
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Buffer posted:Your first thought when it comes to right-wing american violence isn't Oklahoma City? No see that doesn't count because one individual crazy actor doesn't represent all of *shits self extraordinarily loudly*
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Jun 15, 2017 06:07
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Fulchrum posted:Wait, they're crying cause a pro-gun whip got shot in the hip? Seriously? Not for the poo poo that they are doing or the scandals they are under, but they're falling to pieces cause someone on their team actually got attacked? I am not saying that the fire is not already burning, I am saying that pouring kerosene on the fire is going to noticeably change the character of the blaze that we have been experiencing thus far. What we have seen and experienced up to this point is going to seem as remarkably tame and restrained 3 months from now as the 2012 election season seemed tame and restrained compared to the 2016 one. I remember when people were calling me melodramatic for stating that 2016 was going to be a completely different beast from 2012. In much the same way I am stating now that what we will see from the right wing w/r/t the way they talk about/dehumanize the left over the next few months is going to make everything we have seen up to this point so far seem relatively tame and restrained. Edit: Petr posted:He said that before the shooting. My bad, I missed the date. I still stand by my statement that this event will mark a noticeable scene change in how the right speaks about and interacts with the left though. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 06:07
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BrandorKP posted:I'm hearing it's nothing. Details smell like they were made up by an idiot. Some reports are saying it was made up by a YouTube conspiracy theorist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekr5cw2WAbU
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Jun 15, 2017 06:11
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Lightning Lord posted:I find it interesting that despite the rise of the Tea Party, a lot of Members of Congress are still across-the-aisle friends, even if bipartisan lawmaking is uncommon these days. Like one of Scalise's close friends is Cedric Richmond, a Democrat. The chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus, even. We'rwe still talking about the guy who spoke to the loving Klan, right?
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Jun 15, 2017 06:13
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Looks like the "Trump is currently under investigation" story is taking off on MSM. I'm guessing mainly because now, if Trump would force a firing of Mueller, it'd be clear obstruction of justice. I'm wondering if Mueller put Trump under investigation for obstruction of justice simply to bait Trump into firing him. Though, really, that'd be a gamble by him as much as anyone on how the public and the GOP would even react, at this point.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:14
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Buffer posted:Your first thought when it comes to right-wing american violence isn't Oklahoma City? That was over 20 years ago so a reckon a good number of goons aren't old enough to really remember.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:14
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Buffer posted:Your first thought when it comes to right-wing american violence isn't Oklahoma City? Or that guy who crashed a plane into the IRS in texas? Or Gabby Giffords?
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Jun 15, 2017 06:15
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Paradoxish posted:A 1NM safety zone sounds pretty extreme to me, but I know literally nothing about port operations so maybe this is just normal "better safe than sorry" procedure. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Jj7JYJiueTUzzvw Everything you ever wanted to know about how far away from a hazardous materials incident you should get you can find in there by UN number of the haz. Most everything you could think of hazardous wise has set evacuation distances.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:16
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My favorite political tweet of the day. https://twitter.com/mileskahn/status/875180953479647233
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Jun 15, 2017 06:17
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Beltway friendships are the weirdest thing. Though I'm convinced the only reason people put up with Louie Gohmert is because supposedly he puts on some really good barbecues.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:20
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Der Waffle Mous posted:Beltway friendships are the weirdest thing. Is learning to grill a steak right really that hard that people need to go to loving Gohmert?
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Jun 15, 2017 06:21
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Fulchrum posted:Is learning to grill a steak right really that hard that people need to go to loving Gohmert? Lol bless your heart if you think steak is all barbecue is.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:24
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Trabisnikof posted:Lol bless your heart if you think steak is all barbecue is. I know its the hardest thing to do right in most barbecues - hot dogs are done uniform and hard to gently caress up unless you let them burn, and burgers, even ones you make yourself, are still easier to do than a steak done the right way.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:30
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If you're cooking directly over a flame its not even BBQ.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:31
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Fulchrum posted:I know its the hardest thing to do right in most barbecues - hot dogs are done uniform and hard to gently caress up unless you let them burn, and burgers, even ones you make yourself, are still easier to do than a steak done the right way. You're still missing brisket, ribs, bbq chicken, pork loin, etc.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:32
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Fulchrum posted:I know its the hardest thing to do right in most barbecues - hot dogs are done uniform and hard to gently caress up unless you let them burn, and burgers, even ones you make yourself, are still easier to do than a steak done the right way. Good job, bro, now we're gonna have a ten-page derail about loving brisket and dry rubs and cuts of meat and 
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Jun 15, 2017 06:33
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Fulchrum posted:I know its the hardest thing to do right in most barbecues - hot dogs are done uniform and hard to gently caress up unless you let them burn, and burgers, even ones you make yourself, are still easier to do than a steak done the right way. well I can see you've covered all the BBQ food groups, so I guess you're good to go
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Jun 15, 2017 06:33
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:If he wasn't a Congressman, he'd be dealing with hospital bills and bankruptcy for the rest of his life. This isn't to contradict this post but I've seen a lot of pelvis injuries and they are really bad, even when people are offered the best possible care. He's in for a very long recovery and it's very likely he's going to suffer from pretty horrific long term disability from this. The mechanism of injury is a nasty one... It's also one of those injuries that, despite best medical management, might cause massive complications years or even decades down the line. It's not something I'd wish on anyone.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:33
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JawKnee posted:well I can see you've covered all the BBQ food groups, so I guess you're good to go I did say most barbecues, didn't I?
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Jun 15, 2017 06:35
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Prester Jane posted:I am not saying that the fire is not already burning, I am saying that pouring kerosene on the fire is going to noticeably change the character of the blaze that we have been experiencing thus far. What we have seen and experienced up to this point is going to seem as remarkably tame and restrained 3 months from now as the 2012 seemed tame and restrained compared to the 2016 one. I remember when people were calling me melodramatic for stating that 2016 was going to be a completely different beast from 2012. In much the same way I am stating now that what we will see from the right wing w/r/t the way they talk about/dehumanize the left over the next few months is going to make everything we have seen up to this point so far seem relatively tame and restrained. I really hope you're wrong about all of this, but I fear you're not. Also you're triggering the pedant in me like crazy. The term is "sea-change." I just recently found out it came from Shakespeare, where it was used literally to mean a change made by the sea, but context led the definition to be widened to any significant change through any cause. Your meaning is taken all the same, but ya know: 
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Jun 15, 2017 06:35
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Fulchrum posted:I did say most barbecues, didn't I? that is a thing you said
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Jun 15, 2017 06:36
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GreyjoyBastard posted:A good post Live and drink, friend!
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Jun 15, 2017 06:36
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Ratoslov posted:Good job, bro, now we're gonna have a ten-page derail about loving brisket and dry rubs and cuts of meat and The only brisket is jewish style brisket roast and other types are haram also delicious
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Jun 15, 2017 06:37
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The Glumslinger posted:The only brisket is jewish style brisket roast and other types are haram Have you ever had any other brisket because while I'm a brisket enthusiast you're deeply wrong my friend. Also I couldn't read and thought you said all other BBQs lol Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Jun 15, 2017 06:40
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Chilichimp posted:I got into it with some rear end in a top hat today about left-wing violence. He's really got his finger on the pulse of rwm. There's a guy blowing up a Facebook discusion group I'm in with links to random tweets by "prominent" voices on "the left" that he considers to be insufficiently navel gazing, or confirmatory of the "leftist fascism" drum he's been beating for months. I could drop a sick burn about all of the Republican leaders that have coyly broached "Second Amendment solutions" over the past eight years but what's the point? The backfire effect means that getting through to an entrenched partisan is nearly impossible if they can retreat back into their information bubble and get a hit of sweet, sweet self-affirmation. If our political polarization descends into sectarian violence, it will most likely be Bizarro Northern Ireland where one side has all the guns and controls the government but swears up and down that the other guys started it because Julius Caesar and Kathy Griffin and Sweet Cakes 
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Jun 15, 2017 06:42
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Serrath posted:This isn't to contradict this post but I've seen a lot of pelvis injuries and they are really bad, even when people are offered the best possible care. He's in for a very long recovery and it's very likely he's going to suffer from pretty horrific long term disability from this. The mechanism of injury is a nasty one... That's not an understatement at all, though it depends on the severity of the injury and person. It strangely varies from full recovery to pure insanity. My grandmother (yes, somewhat old, but not a bullet injury) slipped out of normal sanity into full stage 5 alzheimer's the day she broke her hip. It won't happen to congress dude, but this is one of the worst injuries to survive.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:42
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skylined! posted:https://twitter.com/byrdinator/status/875035782007971840
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Jun 15, 2017 06:42
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Fulchrum posted:We'rwe still talking about the guy who spoke to the loving Klan, right? Pretty much, yeah. Like Der Waffle Mous said, Beltway friendships are weird. What's also weird is that in 2014, Breitbart ran an article condemning Scalise's 2002 statement that he was "David Duke without the baggage" and painted him as a "Boehner ally". I'm gonna guess that the latter is more relevant for why they decided to publish that.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:49
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Discussion Quorum posted:I know a guy like this. I've given up on engaging him directly. Right now he's blowing up our Facebook politics group with links to random tweets by "prominent" voices on "the left" that he considers to be insufficiently navel gazing or confirmatory of the "leftist fascism" drum he's been beating for months. I could drop a sick burn about all of the Republican leaders that have coyly broached "Second Amendment solutions" over the past eight years but what's the point? The backfire effect means that getting through to an entrenched partisan is nearly impossible if they can retreat back into their information bubble and get a hit of sweet, sweet self-affirmation. The human capacity for double standards never ceases to amaze. The right wing has regularly generated a barrage of incendiary violent rhetoric for years, and always play dumb when some asshat shoots up a bunch of people. The left wing basically never calls for violence, and only d-listers and crazies are the ones that ever do. Meanwhile prominent Republican leaders call for "second amendment solutions" and put literal targets over Democratic politicians but somehow "the left" is the side driving the violence and dividing the country.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:50
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BBQ: low and slow over indirect heat/smoke. Grillin': fast and hot over direct flame. Easy concept to understand.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:51
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Ratoslov posted:Good job, bro, now we're gonna have a ten-page derail about loving brisket and dry rubs and cuts of meat and Republicans are so fuckin dumb, I bet they don't put beans in their chili.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:52
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pepito sanchez posted:It won't happen to congress dude, but this is one of the worst injuries to survive. I don't want to oversell this point but being in congress is protective but won't completely insulate him from this. 5 year median survival of a hip fracture is generally seen as 50% regardless of pre morbid functioning and SES and neuro-psychiatric complaints are common across all people with this sort of injury. This just isn't one of those things that the best care can help you completely escape from. I'm sorry about your grandmother, that is never an easy thing to witness or help someone through.
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Jun 15, 2017 06:54
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Mustached Demon posted:BBQ: low and slow over indirect heat/smoke. Yeah, but vinegar or mustard based sauce?
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Jun 15, 2017 06:56
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Discussion Quorum posted:If our political polarization descends into sectarian violence, it will most likely be Bizarro Northern Ireland where one side has all the guns and controls the government but swears up and down that the other guys started it because Julius Caesar and Kathy Griffin and Sweet Cakes This political cold war the country has apparently decided to have -- and that gets occasionally bloody -- doesn't seem to be arrayed along ethnic lines, and while minorities can be a target, I'm sorta reminded of Chappelle's SNL bit after the election about sitting back and letting the whites fight it out. The most visible clashes have been between these costumed right-wingers and Antifa, mostly white and most intensely on the West Coast and Pacific Northwest, which you'd have to really go out of your way to participate in. Unlike a sectarian conflict there are no real identifiable markers to single somebody out as "liberal" or "conservative." If you asked someone on the street you'd get a shrug. Which is probably why if I was a politician, I'd be freaking out right now, because you have a big R or D next to your name that paints a target on your back for all the pent-up rage and disgust about politics and politicians combined with limited ways to direct it out.
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Serrath posted:I don't want to oversell this point but being in congress is protective but won't completely insulate him from this. 5 year median survival of a hip fracture is generally seen as 50% regardless of pre morbid functioning and SES and neuro-psychiatric complaints are common across all people with this sort of injury. This just isn't one of those things that the best care can help you completely escape from. 5 year median survival for hip fractures? I'm guessing this has something to do with the age of people fracturing hips and not something specific to hips as opposed to a broken toe or arm or whatever?
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