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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Peel
Dec 3, 2007

My experience of being on the autistic spectrum is difficulty telling when you've hurt or been callous to someone leading to panic and feeling really poo poo when you realise you inadvertently have.


Without further evidence, I'm pretty sure May is just a bad person.

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Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Pablo Bluth posted:

How does £300m of reserves compare nationally to other councils?

Roughly 300 million more pounds.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Macarius Wrench posted:

Every human being gets burnt out or fed up with life. Some people just get on with it.

This is a v stupid post.

Oh you're the guy who thinks transexuals are either the same as pedophiles or rich folks getting nose jobs.

inkjet_lakes
Feb 9, 2015

Tsaedje posted:

This is literally every capability for work assessment. After years of appeals I eventually got some compensation out of them for lying and removing all my benefits and then trying to cover up the lie, including to my MP. Didn't really make up for the months I was living on £5 a week.

Oh gently caress yes, by their own admission the DWP has 43 separate pieces of medical evidence (including the leading UK expert on her condition) to show my wife is as ill as she claims to be yet they still outright lied on her PIP assessment. By contrast the ESA assessment, carried out by an actual doctor, didn't contest any of it in spite of using the same assessment criteria.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Macarius Wrench posted:

Every human being gets burnt out or fed up with life. Some people just get on with it.

For a second I was thinking of posting something along the lines of, uh it looks like you've very badly phrased that, it almost looks like you're saying something stupid and hurtful and terrible, but then I looked at your post history and remembered who you are so I'm happy just telling you to gently caress off.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Jedit posted:

This. A tower block full of working class people just burned down with unknown loss of life because a bunch of Tory voting rich cunts didn't want their view spoiled. Said rich cunts got the Tory landlords to petition the Tory council to approve dangerous plans that were implemented by a cowboy company who even if they didn't slip a brown envelope under the table, cared more about their shareholders than the dead. The Tory landlords then for years repeatedly ignored warnings from their tenants that said plans put them massively at risk of exactly the disaster that happened.

Kensington and Chelsea is never going Tory again.

This does rely on this actually getting out, of course.

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Macarius Wrench posted:

Every human being gets burnt out or fed up with life. Some people just get on with it.

gently caress off.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Verizian posted:

Autistic people are associated with extra chromosomes and some claim may be a further evolutionary step.

Are you sure about that

mediadave
Sep 8, 2011

return0 posted:

I am seeing a lot more posts on Facebook from my friends who don't usually post politics stuff recently, and the tone is getting angrier. Even more so since yesterday.

yeah...it's hard to know for sure, as we're all in social media bubbles, but it does feel like a tipping point is rapidly approaching. I suspect that we may see a genuine explosion of public rage once the true casualty figures become known.

Macarius Wrench
Mar 28, 2017

by Lowtax
I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Macarius Wrench posted:

Every human being gets burnt out or fed up with life. Some people just get on with it.

Oh you're back. Got any more hot takes on trans people you malignant little turd?

Serene Dragon
Mar 31, 2011

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

gently caress off. It's not a goddamn holiday, you stupid piece of garbage. Get the gently caress out.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

Take a multiple-month-long break from breathing TIA.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Macarius Wrench posted:

Every human being gets burnt out or fed up with life. Some people just get on with it.

gently caress off and never come back.

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

You're not 'not soft', you're just extremely loving lucky.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

poo poo guys I think we found the cause of the fire, it's this hot take

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

spectralent posted:

This does rely on this actually getting out, of course.

We just had a BBC clip of Corbyn descending on Kensington like the messiah, promising to get the truth out, and the current Labour MP may well be the angriest person on the planet right now.

The corporate manslaughter narrative has taken hold.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

this is me, shocked at you not being able to comprehend a concept

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

lol you just can't resist doubling down, how very embarassing for you.

what other terrible, child-like opinions do you have while you're momentarily not probated?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Being fair Macarius Wrench has difficulty looking people in the eye given he's a pseudo-sentient puddle of poo poo which lacks the requisite organs to do so.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

Have you ever considered the fact that the enemy is not in fact fellow workers, but the bosses driving you to labour for their profit with the implicit threat of starvation and homelessness hanging over your head if you do not comply

Just a thought

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

God drat you're terrible. Get out.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Peel posted:

My experience of being on the autistic spectrum is difficulty telling when you've hurt or been callous to someone leading to panic and feeling really poo poo when you realise you inadvertently have.


Without further evidence, I'm pretty sure May is just a bad person.

Remember that neurodevelopmental disorders are independent of morality. It's quite possible to be both autistic and a complete rear end in a top hat.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Tesseraction posted:

Being fair Macarius Wrench has difficulty looking people in the eye given he's a pseudo-sentient puddle of poo poo which lacks the requisite organs to do so.

Being fair he is sentient just evidently not sapient.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Darth Walrus posted:

We just had a BBC clip of Corbyn descending on Kensington like the messiah, promising to get the truth out, and the current Labour MP may well be the angriest person on the planet right now.

The corporate manslaughter narrative has taken hold.

I hope so, but the beeb at least is still talking about May doing a Strong enquiry that might lead to a Stable resolution and vague feel-good "hey look at this kid who helped out!" type stuff. I'm not going to get too optimistic until I see on evening news that there's links to either the tory council or the company that did the work.

To be honest it needs to be about the council's fuckup specifically since otherwise this turns into May's "NO PLACE TO HIDE FOR BIG BUSINESS now let's lower corporation tax some more" speech again.

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

spectralent posted:

This does rely on this actually getting out, of course.

If the death toll's in the triple digits, I don't think a dragged out government inquiry saying "well they didn't technically break the rules that we set and could change at any time" is going to hack it. There might not be as many scalps as we'd like, though.

R. Mute
Jul 27, 2011

kanonvandekempen posted:

I find that completely baffling, like I literally don't understand how this can happen in a modern country. In Belgium, where I live now, the doctor has the final word, period. I have a colleague who has been sick since january 2016, we're not really aware of what she has or if she's ever coming back, but a doctor affirms every 3 months that she has a valid reason for not working and so be it. She receives 80% of her wage every month. If we thought something dodgy was going on we could ask for another doctor to go check up on her but that's it.

I'm assuming she's depressed or burnt-out, but none of us have any idea and that is just fine, it's none of our business anyway.

What is annoying is that we are (because of our internal policy) unable to replace her until we can confirm she's never coming back, which means her colleagues just have to fill in for her.
I wouldn't get too used to it. Maggie De Block, that loving liberal ghoul, has been making an awful lot of noises about the 'responsabilisering' (lit. making responsible) of those with a long term illness and it's N-VA's stated policy as well. They're using the same trick they're trying with older employees in dangerous or very physical jobs - "okay you can't reasonably do your job, but what can you do? Surely you're still a worthwhile human being in some form?"

Forcing people to do a job they can barely do and don't want to do is a one-way ticket to a burn-out - but luckily, burn-outs are probably included in this scheme so they'll just ask you 'well, what can you do with a burn-out?' and go from there.

Tsaedje
May 11, 2007

BRAWNY BUTTONS 4 LYFE

inkjet_lakes posted:

Oh gently caress yes, by their own admission the DWP has 43 separate pieces of medical evidence (including the leading UK expert on her condition) to show my wife is as ill as she claims to be yet they still outright lied on her PIP assessment. By contrast the ESA assessment, carried out by an actual doctor, didn't contest any of it in spite of using the same assessment criteria.

I am convinced if they'd been truthful and processed my claim correctly I would have been well enough to work within a few months. As it was, the stress of the situation prolonged my mental health issues and ruined my physical health, so on top of the compensation I was given, they ended up paying out more in out of work benefits. Oh, and the "medical professional" who performed my mental health assessment was a newly qualified physiotherapist who'd been on a couple of days mental health training, no exaggeration.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

People too ill to work should receive money that's, by definition, not enough to live on?

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
oh come on guys it's a totally reasonable thing to say if the value of a human being derives entirely from their labour

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

TomViolence posted:

I dunno, the cenobites at least had a bit of grandiosity and depraved joy to them that may seems to really lack. Hers is the dour, banal evil of a bureaucrat-executioner, for all that she cosplays as Cruella De Ville.

edit:


I was discussing this earlier in the IRC chat and I think there might be more recent comparable fires during the blitz.
This didn't mention any, fwiw:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_disasters_in_Great_Britain_and_Ireland_by_death_toll

Though it looks like it doesn't count battle deaths or war deaths in general.

Macarius Wrench
Mar 28, 2017

by Lowtax
All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Macarius Wrench posted:

All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

and the people who can't are "soft" and should slowly rot in an alley somewhere? just trying to clarify your exact position here

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Macarius Wrench posted:

All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

And that people who can't come with some difficulties deserve to die? Go on, please elaborate further.

Actually gently caress off, but hey.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Macarius Wrench posted:

All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

Why don't you gently caress off back to Games or something, where your decisions and values have literally 0 impact on the actual world with real people in it?

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

Macarius Wrench posted:

I literally cannot comprehend someone taking a multiple month long break from their employment whilst earning a living wage and still being able to look people in the eye. Sorry I'm not soft.

Taking your statement at face value, and assuming you're not trolling, maybe you should examine the basis for your belief that a strong work ethic is a good moral choice in an anthrocentric society.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Macarius Wrench posted:

All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

Except you, clearly, you Ubermensch Who Has Been Fortunate Thus Far Not To Suffer Debilitating Physical Or Mental Illness But Definitely Can Stand More Pain And Misery Than Everyone Else Who Are Just Soft.

We don't care what you have to say, we don't care how you try to justify it, :frogout: of the UKMT and don't come back

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Macarius Wrench posted:

All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

I have bad news for you... you aren't handling your mental illness as well as you think you are.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
"Man, steve, it sure is rough you lost your arm to our unregulated sawmill, but given you're of no further monetary value to society how about you kindly rot somewhere quiet and out of the way? It's the decent thing to do old bean."

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Macarius Wrench posted:

All I'm saying is that some people can cope with the various difficulties life offers and some people can't. No one is special.

a) life sends different trials at different people and b) so loving what? If someone can't cope, they should starve or live or a lower quality of life? I disagree with your last point though. It takes a very, very special person to be as much of a oval office as you are.

e: god drat I love how quickly this thread jumps on shitheads

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Macarius Wrench
Mar 28, 2017

by Lowtax

nopantsjack posted:

I have bad news for you... you aren't handling your mental illness as well as you think you are.

Not booked 6 months holiday to sit in my loving Jim jams watching netflix yet though so obvs doing something right.

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