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Captain Baal posted:Is the same guy who literally made fun of new players trying to figure out mvc3 in the goonsgarden irc while drunk? woah watch out baal, he might tell you to kill yourself if you say mass effect andromeda is bad
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Endorph posted:woah watch out baal, he might tell you to kill yourself if you say mass effect andromeda is bad mass effect andromeda is a good comparison. another game that some people will enjoy and some people won't but a ton of people on the internet are gonna talk about how wrong some of those people were for MONTHS because this is just internet gaming culture in general. it is so depressing and makes me question the personal choice of even supporting this hobby because it seems to be genuinely distructive. it is tooooooooys
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andromeda was really bad to be fair, and was basically a company making GBS threads out a product half-finished because they knew it'd make money off the brand, even if it killed the ip. even if you liked the game you have to admit 'we'll put this out, get mediocre (for a triple A game) reviews, but then fix it in the sequel' isn't exactly good to the customers. that's what this is about when you get down to it, basically, people feeling cheated or hurt by corporations. you can say it's toys as much as you want but stuff like SFV's launch is basically just capcom going 'gently caress you, you'll buy it anyway,' and while obviously people can just not buy what capcom puts out in the future it's understandable that they'd have some resentment.
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cams posted:nah i'm having a cool day, that wouldn't do anything for me Dude, it's fine to say some toys are bad tho. People just don't need to get weird about it on both sides of the spectrum. It's fine.
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I think it's also annoyance that people and gaming journalism (lol) will give these massively flawed games tons of air time and decent reviews just because they're by a big developer and then barely acknowledge and toss 6/10s at stuff that's interesting and well-made but obscure. like if french bread or whoever had released a game in sfv's launch state it would have gotten 2/10s and been a public laughing stock. and obviously review scores don't matter (except that companies clearly base decisions off of them), but it still kinda sucks.
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cams posted:my position is that it is toys. buy them or don't, basing your identity around being part of a club who go on an internet forum and get in slapfights about how a video game is objectively bad is, and i mean this, sad. very very sad to me. tbh i like that at least you were honest about the culty echochamber poo poo that people are doing. if you believe yourself to be some warrior in a video game war, go nuts. we all have our delusions that keep us going. How is that any different than what you do though? You're on the same discussion forum, in this particular thread, judging us for judging a game/company. I don't think having an opinion on and discussing with others something you're interested in is "sad" or wrong in any way. It's easy to just dismiss the value of a given topic by devaluing it and saying "it is toys", but these toys are also something you love and care about enough to say you're going to just throw money at without regard for the quality of the product or the relationship between the people making the product and the consumer. Being an active participant in a subculture is not about "delusion", it's just about contributing something to the community, even if it's just a post on a message board.
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Endorph posted:andromeda was really bad to be fair, and was basically a company making GBS threads out a product half-finished because they knew it'd make money off the brand, even if it killed the ip. even if you liked the game you have to admit 'we'll put this out, get mediocre (for a triple A game) reviews, but then fix it in the sequel' isn't exactly good to the customers. that's what this is about when you get down to it, basically, people feeling cheated or hurt by corporations. you can say it's toys as much as you want but stuff like SFV's launch is basically just capcom going 'gently caress you, you'll buy it anyway,' and while obviously people can just not buy what capcom puts out in the future it's understandable that they'd have some resentment. the fact that you guys are now invoking some grand war against late stage capitalism to justify your whining on the internet about video games is absurd to me Dias posted:Dude, it's fine to say some toys are bad tho. People just don't need to get weird about it on both sides of the spectrum. It's fine. which, again, why i don't hang out here. i try and keep to that but i have NOTHING going on in june. pretty bored.
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If the cost of the toy is $90, I think it's worth pondering whether the toy is worth it or not.
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why do you love capitalism dude. were all toxically masculine bernie bros here
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cams posted:this part. i started reading this and my eyes glazed over because i do not care about the objective quality of a video game
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Haha having opinions is gay
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Endorph posted:uh, grats? sfv launched without even an arcade mode. that isn't about objective quality, that's about charging 60 dollars for a game without even basic features. iunno why that's hard or somehow delusional or pathetic to think that maybe they should have delayed sfv a few months to put in basic stuff like an arcade mode instead of crapping it out because they knew people'd buy it anyway. hey, get this. the "best" fighting game content/polish wise is injustice 2 and it is the only fighting game i really regret buying because i just do not enjoy the game that much, even compared to injustice 1 which i enjoyed. experiences are subjective and you caring about people spending money on video games you don't want them to spend money is behavior that i don't think should be encouraged. i am poor as gently caress and buying almost every fighting game has not hurt my budget at all, but i don't spend money on things often.
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cams posted:i do not give a single poo poo about an arcade mode. i bought sfv and i loved it. i bought the season 1 pass because i loved it. i enjoy that game. didn't get season 2 because i have not been playing that much, not a huge fan of season 2. just because you enjoy getting hosed in the rear end by capcom doesn't mean people should, considering you are clearly brain broken.
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i dont care if someone liked sfv or spent money on it and im not sure where you're getting the impression that i do? literally all i said was that the game probably should have had a few more months in development but capcom felt they could get away with just tossing it out there. i am not saying sfv is good or bad. i am not saying people who like sfv are good or bad. all i am saying is that capcom did something without much regard for the consumers.
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Endorph posted:i dont care if someone liked sfv or spent money on it and im not sure where you're getting the impression that i do? literally all i said was that the game probably should have had a few more months in development but capcom felt they could get away with just tossing it out there. i am not saying sfv is good or bad. i am not saying people who like sfv are good or bad. all i am saying is that capcom did something without much regard for the consumers.
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cams posted:drat, you're right, if they had released the game with content that appealed to more consumers they probably would have sold more of their product because more people would have bought it... holy poo poo! aren't you the guy who beat his girlfriend with a nintendo gamecube
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Jun 15, 2017 22:31
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Captain Baal posted:Is the same guy who literally made fun of new players trying to figure out mvc3 in the goonsgarden irc while drunk? He's the guy who ranted about euthanizing gamers and then also admitted to putting 450 hours into dragon age 3 In like, the same post
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cams I'm sorry that you still haven't come to grips with the fact that people are going to talk about the game in the thread dedicated to the game
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CharlestonJew posted:aren't you the guy who beat his girlfriend with a nintendo gamecube also happens to be the point where i go from amused to legitimately annoyed so bye. just start here next time i post and i'll just take off.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:35
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You have to be like the biggest loving hypocrite dude, lol.
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I've basically learned not to read any threads about a game I actually might enjoy because the constant negatives for page after page stops me actually enjoying the game. We'll all be disappointed if the game is poo poo, no need to put yourself through the pain of thinking it will be poo poo for the next 3 months on top of that. The crusade of 'destructive criticism' and 'negative propaganda' (lol) against capitalism/capcom won't make a difference to their bottom line, the game being actually poo poo or not on release will.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:36
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Get help, cams
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Is this the thread for a small number of goons to unironically argue that people should be bad/thoughtless consumers?
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Fellblade posted:I've basically learned not to read any threads about a game I actually might enjoy because the constant negatives for page after page stops me actually enjoying the game. free market baby. jack me off with ur invisible hand
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cams posted:oh hey cool we're at the point where several people attack me personally then someone accuses me of beating women, this is my favorite part of the something awful fgc how did it feel as you slammed 5.9 x 6.3 x 4.3 inches of plastic and metal into her face cams did you use the handle or did you double fist it over your head captain kirk style
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my favorite character is the docter strange because he magic
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Fellblade posted:I've basically learned not to read any threads about a game I actually might enjoy because the constant negatives for page after page stops me actually enjoying the game. Why do you let yourself be affected by the opinions of others so much that it would cause you to stop enjoying something that you want to enjoy?
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Fellblade posted:I've basically learned not to read any threads about a game I actually might enjoy because the constant negatives for page after page stops me actually enjoying the game. Nigga, the loving tekken 7 thread was filled with nothing but elation for tekken as a whole and the actual game came out and people loved it. Like it shouldn't come as a surprise that when you release a good product that doesn't burn your audience that your audience responds with good will and love and not toxicity and cynicism. This is not even to mention that if you are this easily swayed by the opinions of others, how are you reading this thread right now and making all of these stupid disingenuous posts about the points others are making? Also, no one is killing themselves calling this game poo poo and posting on an internet forum about one game is not a crusade either for that matter.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:48
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(posting in a video game forum) having opinions on games is bad
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Listen: If everyone else agrees that the games you like are bad the problem might not be with everyone else.
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Zand posted:(posting in a video game forum) having opinions on games is bad
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That being said there are outliers to that like a friend I have who thought Xrd was rear end and was gonna buy this game because it has X, Zero, and Sigma in it ignoring that he hates Capcom fighters and always bitched about my friend beating him with Phoenix Wright nonsense.
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CharlestonJew posted:how did it feel as you slammed 5.9 x 6.3 x 4.3 inches of plastic and metal into her face cams
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So cams is comfortable with criticizing the us government (it's a good thing to do), isn't comfortable with criticizing Capcom (You should be thinking intelligently about your purchases), and beats women?
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I don't understand.
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being repeatedly falsely accused of beating women has convinced me that there is nothing at all toxic or disgusting about this internet community, you guys are all healthy individuals engaging with intellectual honesty
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NecroMonster posted:So cams is comfortable with criticizing the us government (it's a good thing to do), isn't comfortable with criticizing Capcom (You should be thinking intelligently about your purchases), and beats women? Look, cams is kind of an idiot but you don't need to double down on it.
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okay, ignoring the gamecube thing, can i criticize you for saying we should kill all foreigners
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this looks bad, and that's sad, because i wanted this to look good
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Mr. Maggy posted:this looks bad, and that's sad, because i wanted this to look good Seriously. First (and probably last) fighting game I'll get to play as mega man x in and it look bobo
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