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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009

Rarity posted:

We don't even have a government right now.

What do we have until the Queen's Speech is passed? I know May is still Prime Minister, but are any other MPs ministers? I would be amused if delaying the speech is pissing off her cabinet because none of them are getting their salaries.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Lord_Adonis posted:

I would be grateful if you at least left me my job in the electrical industry- I see no reason why I should have to suffer to appease the 52%.
Electrons will be banned by T. May after she finds out they can carry information useful to terrorists. Enjoy your new job as a floating cloud of ions.

Lord_Adonis
Mar 2, 2015

by Smythe

Guavanaut posted:

Electrons will be banned by T. May after she finds out they can carry information useful to terrorists. Enjoy your new job as a floating cloud of ions.

At least I wont have to buy food- loitering around an electrostatic source like Boris's Van-Der-Graaf Mullet will be sufficient sustenance-

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Total Meatlove posted:

The only challenger with a net positive approval rating is Ruth Davidson

I don't want to give them any ideas but I do think that Davidson is a potentially devastating weapon in the Tory arsenal. I actually think she has the charisma and relatability to make the party palatable again and I even think she might be able to best Corbyn or at least match him because she genuinely appears human. So far they don't seem to have realised this though and I hope they continue to overlook her.

Zalakwe
Jun 4, 2007
Likes Cake, Hates Hamsters



Honestly nearly cannot watch the news, having a young son doesn't help.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
she's not a member of parliament though?

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Guavanaut posted:

Electrons will be banned by T. May after she finds out they can carry information useful to terrorists. Enjoy your new job as a floating cloud of ions.

Right now some lowly intern is explaining to May that they can't simply deport the residents of Grenfell now that they don't have any IDs or proof of residence.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

I don't want to give them any ideas but I do think that Davidson is a potentially devastating weapon in the Tory arsenal. I actually think she has the charisma and relatability to make the party palatable again and I even think she might be able to best Corbyn or at least match him because she genuinely appears human. So far they don't seem to have realised this though and I hope they continue to overlook her.

She does well because she's up against a single-issue party and the likes of Kezia Dugdale, and she gets little media scrutiny outside of Scotland. If she actually went up against Corbyn it would quickly be obvious that she shouts loudly about principles and quietly votes for things like the rape clause.

In any case, the Grenfell fire makes it virtually a moot point. There is no potential Tory leader that will prevent them being blamed hard for this.

Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!


CoolCab posted:

she's not a member of parliament though?

Yeah, that's the immediate stumbling block to Operation Humanized Tories, you'd need to parachute Davidson into a seat, and they have no safe seats in Scotland that they can use. Can't be done quickly.

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/875310328170631168

This is one of those things that makes you go "it is entirely possible that the lifespan of May's 'government' can now be counted in hours". (Double-digit hours, but hours.) I know they'll probably hang on longer than that but good lord.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face

Zalakwe posted:

Honestly nearly cannot watch the news, having a young son doesn't help.

Seriously, a lot of things hit me so much harder since I became a father. I'm pretty good at detaching from my emotions but that little sucker has installed a direct line to my feels.

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Maugrim posted:

Seriously, a lot of things hit me so much harder since I became a father. I'm pretty good at detaching from my emotions but that little sucker has installed a direct line to my feels.

Same but for my girlfriend.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


https://twitter.com/faisalislam/status/875464689718833152

Edit:
https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/875465866124697604

Thanks Ants fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jun 15, 2017

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded
I'm sure this has already been posted but gently caress I loathe Boris Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3e-aYUusc

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/Adver_Chris/status/875467319388110848

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!
Wait hang the gently caress on

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/875446958789468160

Y'all aren't putting sprinkler systems in new school buildings?

Even in the depths of Republican hell I'm pretty sure it's a Federal regulation over here that every school needs a fire suppression system

and while we don't have suppression systems like that in apartment buildings necessarily (tho aside from massive urban areas ours tend to be fewer floors overall & easier to evacuate), I know that smoke & monoxide detectors are loving mandatory in every home in the United States.

How on earth did y'all get to this point? Did the ghost of Thatcher literally murder those people?

edit: god drat @ above

SpaceDrake fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Jun 15, 2017

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Zalakwe posted:

Honestly nearly cannot watch the news, having a young son doesn't help.

But then there's the massive relief efforts by strangers which is massively uplifting and just leaves me feeling a little more positive. Ordinary people doing what they can with what they have.

It doesn't override the tragedy and the needlessness of it all, and it doesn't subside the righteous fury at the way everyone in Grenfell Tower were let down by the council, the government, and property speculators, among other bastards.

Missingnoleader
Mar 10, 2014

https://twitter.com/AJEnglish/statu...327046569795587

It's actually hopeful to see the response to this disaster on the local level.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Vitamin P posted:

I'm sure this has already been posted but gently caress I loathe Boris Johnson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UN3e-aYUusc

if this isn't played on a loop every time Boris says a thing from now on then what is the point of recorded video

that "playful" little "oh it just popped out" accompanied by audience laughter just to underline the lol-no-i'm-not-sorryness of it all

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Lord_Adonis posted:

At least I wont have to buy food- loitering around an electrostatic source like Boris's Van-Der-Graaf Mullet will be sufficient sustenance-

Energy vampire spotted

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/tompeck/status/875465866124697604

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

The loving Mail is blaming 'green targets' for the building being cladded, and thus the fire. On it's front page.

Just when I thought I couldn't hate them any more.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/from-russia-with-blood-14-suspected-hits-on-british-soil?utm_term=.mx6MyAy4r#.hja7a5aYr

quote:

Lavish London mansions. A hand-painted Rolls-Royce. And eight dead friends. For the British fixer Scot Young, working for Vladimir Putin's most vocal critic meant stunning perks – but also constant danger. His gruesome death is one of 14 that US spy agencies have linked to Russia – but the UK police shut down every last case. A bombshell cache of documents today reveals the full story of a ring of death on British soil that the government has ignored

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Good to know the exact value of a human life.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
anyone who works for the mail should be shot in the street like a dog

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

jabby posted:

The loving Mail is blaming 'green targets'


shocking americanisms seeping into the Mail's reporting, don't they know british cash isn't green

c0burn
Sep 2, 2003

The KKKing

this is what's known as going all in

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I don't believe anybody that works for the Mail couldn't get a job elsewhere for the same cash.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

:drat:

Lord_Adonis
Mar 2, 2015

by Smythe

SpaceDrake posted:

Wait hang the gently caress on

https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/875446958789468160

Y'all aren't putting sprinkler systems in new school buildings?

Even in the depths of Republican hell I'm pretty sure it's a Federal regulation over here that every school needs a fire suppression system

and while we don't have suppression systems like that in apartment buildings necessarily (tho aside from massive urban areas ours tend to be fewer floors overall & easier to evacuate), I know that smoke & monoxide detectors are loving mandatory in every home in the United States.

How on earth did y'all get to this point? Did the ghost of Thatcher literally murder those people?

edit: god drat @ above

Hey, isn't that Basildon Bond's very own David Amiss MP- the man who tried to ban Cake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFDkqZDjIKU

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

XMNN posted:

anyone who works for the mail should be shot in the street like a dog
Dogs are good. Anyone who works for the Mail should be shot in the street like anyone who works for the Sun.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Newsnight reports that Grenfell tower could have been totally fitted with sprinkers for £200,000. The cladding cost over £2 million.

The leader of Kensington council says fitting sprinklers would have made the renovation take longer.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


jabby posted:

Newsnight reports that Grenfell tower could have been totally fitted with sprinkers for £200,000. The cladding cost over £2 million.

The leader of Kensington council says fitting sprinklers would have made the renovation take longer.

Well renovation of it now is going to take a loving long time now, these utter bastards

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

https://twitter.com/F1isP1/status/875470683484164100

The Insect Court
Nov 22, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:

I'm going with a 2018 election, Labour wins by a slim majority and calls it off quietly

Is there any reason to think that Corbyn, who has decisively embraced hard Brexit complete with an end to free movement, is going to pull a 180? I'm trying to recall any public statements made that could make someone believe that.

Or is it just wishful thinking?

Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

CoolCab posted:

she's not a member of parliament though?

Candidates for leadership must be elected by MPs but afaik do not strictly have to be MPs themselves. It's an internal party thing anyway, the only reason it'd be a problem is negative press about an unelected PM, which hilariously is only even in the public consciousness because the Tories themselves spread it around to discredit Brown.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

SpaceDrake posted:

How on earth did y'all get to this point? Did the ghost of Thatcher literally murder those people?

edit: god drat @ above

Yes, the tories murdered these people. They attempted to filibuster fire safety debates, and seriously argued that if sprinklers were good then the tenants should buy them.

CptAwesome
Nov 2, 2005

All this because of a photo of a man eating a bacon sandwich. hosed up, imo.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
if the council aren't charged with negligent manslaughter I can't see how they're going to be able to show their faces in public again without fearing for their lives.

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Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?


I'd disagree with this actually, depending on the outcome of the investigation. If the cladding is legal, which the newspaper articles I've read suggest it is, then blame should be directed at those who made the building regs, not those who followed them.

(Of course, blame about the generally lovely state of fire safety in the flat is a separate matter, and I'd support a corporate manslaughter charge there if it was a contributing factor).

Edit: <--- Ooh, shiny. Thanks, Fans!

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