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Lurdiak posted:You'd be surprised how many classic JRPGs have status ailments and instant death spells that actually work but go ignored by the player. FF4, 6 and 7 teach horrible habits. Statuses do work in a lot of JRPGs. It's just that in many cases, the really useful ones (e.g., Stop/Stun, Silence, Darkness) don't work, so you're better off cranking more damage than using the lesser things like Slow or Sap. I mean, even here in FF5 , it's really not that important in a normal game where you've got Coin Toss, dual-wielding X-Fight, summons and so on at your fingertips. They just shine in challenges like this because you're intentionally locked out of the most broken ways to combine jobs.
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Welp, I jumped the gun and decided, hey, I've never actually triple crowned before! In addition, I've never gone through the bonus GBA dungeon as well! So whats the most deliciously OP team I can run to do that under fairly normal (team 750) rules? I ended up with Blue Mage / Time Mage / Bard / Chemist. (Yeah I know I technically need Thief and Beastmaster for the temple but I'll temp sub in their skills when necessary). Goal is to also triple crown "legitly" (which means no berserk / quick leak / lvl 5 death shenanigans). I'll still start a run and job fair to that team so at least some money goes to a good place.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:02
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Feldegast42 posted:I ended up with Blue Mage / Time Mage / Bard / Chemist. (Yeah I know I technically need Thief and Beastmaster for the temple but I'll temp sub in their skills when necessary). Goal is to also triple crown "legitly" (which means no berserk / quick leak / lvl 5 death shenanigans). I'll still start a run and job fair to that team so at least some money goes to a good place. If !Mix is legal, I don't see why Berserk shouldn't be. It's a valid strategy that the game legitimately intends you to use on Shinryu, unlike other bosses - most bosses have an immunity of it that you'd have to use !Mix to bypass, but Shin does not. That's like saying "I want to defeat Omega without using !Sing" when that's more or less the intended method.
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Jun 15, 2017 20:14
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KataraniSword posted:If !Mix is legal, I don't see why Berserk shouldn't be. It's a valid strategy that the game legitimately intends you to use on Shinryu, unlike other bosses - most bosses have an immunity of it that you'd have to use !Mix to bypass, but Shin does not. Similarly, declaring death by math off the table is
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Kyrosiris posted:Similarly, declaring death by math off the table is I mean, I'd say Death By Mathing Omega/Shin is kind of not kosher anyway, but that's less because it's bad and more because it's actually harder than doing things the intended way. It's like trying to do skateboard tricks on skis. Is it really worth it?
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Jun 15, 2017 20:29
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KataraniSword posted:I mean, I'd say Death By Mathing Omega/Shin is kind of not kosher anyway, but that's less because it's bad and more because it's actually harder than doing things the intended way. It's like trying to do skateboard tricks on skis. Is it really worth it? Oh, well yeah, that's fair. Omega is literally impossible, and Shin is just a matter of shoving dragon powers down his throat. But man is using Level 5 Death in ridiculous situations fun as hell.
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!calm working on him you can argue is a bug, sure, bug omega specifically has a flag where he can't avoid stop. serenade the robot with song
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Jun 15, 2017 21:55
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Kyrosiris posted:Oh, well yeah, that's fair. Omega is literally impossible, and Shin is just a matter of shoving dragon powers down his throat.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:00
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Can you not level Omega up to 255 if you Dragon Power him enough? And L5 death him that way, I mean. Not that I'd ever thought of trying. I think L5 Death respects reflect, meaning you can't actually tag him even if the level is right. I know the other Math Magics (L2 Old, L3 Flare, L4 Graviga) bounce off a reflect, so there's no reason L5 Death wouldn't.
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KataraniSword posted:I think L5 Death respects reflect, meaning you can't actually tag him even if the level is right. It does respect reflect. Moreover, the spell cannot target your own party, meaning you can't have it bounce off your own reflect.
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Man, that Exdeath fight in World 2 was tense as hell! I'm not sure how much farther I have to go, but I have the day off so I'm sure I'll play way too much of this today and try to finish it up so I can give some poor bastard another berserker.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Man, that Exdeath fight in World 2 was tense as hell! if you dont bother with the sidequests world three is extremely short. you can dive into the endgame basically after one dungeon
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Feldegast42 posted:I ended up with Blue Mage / Time Mage / Bard / Chemist. (Yeah I know I technically need Thief and Beastmaster for the temple but I'll temp sub in their skills when necessary). Goal is to also triple crown "legitly" (which means no berserk / quick leak / lvl 5 death shenanigans). I'll still start a run and job fair to that team so at least some money goes to a good place. I'll throw in $5 if you kill Omega with Goblin Punch. KataraniSword posted:If !Mix is legal, I don't see why Berserk shouldn't be. It's a valid strategy that the game legitimately intends you to use on Shinryu, unlike other bosses - most bosses have an immunity of it that you'd have to use !Mix to bypass, but Shin does not. Leaving aside the legitimacy argument, I can see where Feldegast is coming from. Using !Mix defensively still requires you to understand Shinryu's attack routine, while Berserk completely undermines the fight's fairly sophisticated mechanics. Neither approach is particularly difficult, but the former is a lot more interesting.
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fits posted:if you dont bother with the sidequests world three is extremely short. you can dive into the endgame basically after one dungeon Ah, awesome, I was worried I wouldn't be able to get through it. For the pledge drive, do I only need to beat the final boss, or do you have to do the optional bosses too? I'll probably give them a try anyway just for the hell of it, but I wanted to make sure.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:For the pledge drive, do I only need to beat the final boss, or do you have to do the optional bosses too? I'll probably give them a try anyway just for the hell of it, but I wanted to make sure. You just have to beat NED. I mean, if you want to you can also beat the other two, but NED is all that's needed. Speaking of which! Since it's already (almost) Friday (at least in my timezone) and The Run starts in less than two days, I'm going to check I didn't miss anyone who partecipated in my toxx. So far I have derra, Supremezero, Samuel Clemens, ZiegeDame, Dwall, plot.lost, Huzzah!, Detheros, ssmagus, and Kliff. Did I miss anyone? If I did, please be kind and direct me to the relevant post. Thanks!
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Jun 15, 2017 22:43
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Mikl posted:You just have to beat NED. I mean, if you want to you can also beat the other two, but NED is all that's needed. I just wanna let you know I am working on mine, I am at Pyramid of Moore right now, so I'll let you know when I finish!
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Jun 15, 2017 23:01
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Samuel Clemens posted:I'll throw in $5 if you kill Omega with Goblin Punch. I am sad that I've never actually done this.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:21
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Kyrosiris posted:I am sad that I've never actually done this. No time like the present.
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ultrafilter posted:No time like the present. Yeah, if I get Blue Mage and Chemist I'll make it happen. I might also reprise my quad skulls on NED.
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Alright, Mikl, here we go!   NED almost wiped me with a double Almagest near the end, but luckily my dragoon jumped afterwards and landed the finishing blow! This was fun and I'm glas I finished in time.
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KharlanTree posted:Alright, Mikl, here we go! That's Basch Count: 1 The run looks like it'll be a fun bit of chaos
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What's the way to kill Omega with The Run characters? I'm totally drawing a blank.
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Doom Goon posted:What's the way to kill Omega with The Run characters? I'm totally drawing a blank. 3 on !calm while your berserker takes him down with the rune axe.
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https://twitter.com/FF5ForFutures/status/875536909820346369
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dis astranagant posted:3 on !calm while your berserker takes him down with the rune axe.
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Okay I made a patch of the FFT portraits thing I was working on. (Credits to the ffhacktics community; I did very little drawing myself on these, to be clear.) It .. seems to work fine.
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Mikl posted:Alright, here goes! Third time entering the Fiesta, and hopefully second time finishing. Random run, as last year.  I hope to do three runs this year: this one, the official (I picked chaos 'zerker), and then I desperately want to try Can Of Worms's Randomizer hack (which I'm hoping will catch on).   
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My white mage got zombie'd in the pyramid and I had to do the entire dungeon without her because it turns out I never noticed holy waters in any of the item shops. And of course now that I'm finished, the town nearby has no item shop for some reason. Could have been worse, I guess, at least she had the healing rod equipped. Also monsters seemed to really like targeting her, so it honestly wasn't that bad aside from being slow as hell. About to see if I can do this boss fight without a healer I guess.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:My white mage got zombie'd in the pyramid and I had to do the entire dungeon without her because it turns out I never noticed holy waters in any of the item shops. And of course now that I'm finished, the town nearby has no item shop for some reason. Check the Inn
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Zerker risk people can breathe a bit easier. It it still a guaranteed zerk, but there are a lot less guaranteed seconds!
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Sax Solo posted:Okay I made a patch of the FFT portraits thing I was working on. (Credits to the ffhacktics community; I did very little drawing myself on these, to be clear.) Awesome. I hope someone posts a example photo of how this looks ingame.
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Huzzah! posted:Check the Inn Haha dammit, I was just looking for the shop symbol and didn't see it. Oh well, managed to beat the boss without it anyway. I'm about to do Fork Tower, this is gonna be...interesting.
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Kyrosiris posted:I am sad that I've never actually done this. Might as well make it an official offer.  I pledge $5 for every player who kills Omega using Goblin Punch. No upper limit.
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Sax Solo posted:Okay I made a patch of the FFT portraits thing I was working on. (Credits to the ffhacktics community; I did very little drawing myself on these, to be clear.) Awesome work!
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Khisanth Magus posted:Zerker risk people can breathe a bit easier. It it still a guaranteed zerk, but there are a lot less guaranteed seconds! 
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lol you guys are amazing.
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Good man/woman/other.
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Wanted to see if I could try Omega, but uhm, does the Tame thing only work in the GBA version or something? It doesn't appear to do anything to him on SNES, and if that doesn't work I'm not sure how this fight would be possible.
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