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Yug posted:I don't think minimum wage statistics is evidence of trump's corruption though. So far I have seen no evidence of trump's corruption. Aesop continues to be evasive and talk about anything except actual evidence for his claim of trump's corruption. my evidence for trump's corruption is, his blood pact with shog'gar qambh and the upside down pentagrams seared into his pupils that you can only see in the dark because they glow
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Aesop Poprock posted:You're really trying to push a meltdown that pretty obviously isn't going to happen. I don't even really know much about you other than you're annoying and your attempts to troll people are just to repeat things over and over and you have an entire post history of ignoring people's evidence even if they bother with it. I'm probably just going to stop talking to you cause you're not fun, which is the worst sin a poster can commit in my mind. From now on I will respond to you with chill songs This is more meltdown and more evasion and still no evidence of Trump's corruption.
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Skypie posted:If they were gonna do that, why report civilian casualties at all? I agree with this mostly.
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Yug posted:This is more meltdown and more evasion and still no evidence of Trump's corruption. Thats a pretty laid back meltdown
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Jun 15, 2017 22:47
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fruit on the bottom posted:Thats a pretty laid back meltdown He's been posting nothing but angry words about how much i suck as a poster because I want evidence of his claims. That's classic meltdown.
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VikingSkull posted:like seriously I have no idea what's going on itt right now but everyone should go watch Hypernormalization so we can discuss it I watched like a ~20 min. excerpt a while back. I enjoyed it, but I recall bemusement at a couple of supposedly shocking "revelations" that were only that to the ignorant or naive. I'm not hot on any documentaries, but I'll see if I can't take a deeper dive into this one because I like you, Bluetrain, and the people who recommended the documentary previously. Also, that excerpt was some of the least worst doc footage I've seen. (I really hate them so much.)
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Jun 15, 2017 22:50
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I'm actually trying to think of meaningful differences under a pence presidency -same lovely healthcare bill -same neocon government, though probably more fully staffed -probably wouldn't have done the travel ban? But that's been effectively shut down already so no real diff, though probably wouldn't have tweeted evidence that helped stopped it -would not have put his son-in-law in charge of the gov -would not have touched the orb
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Jun 15, 2017 22:54
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Yug posted:He's been posting nothing but angry words about how much i suck as a poster because I want evidence of his claims. That's classic meltdown. I think that's just pointing out the obvious.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:55
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It's almost Friday again and this week's scandal hasn't even gotten off the ground yet. Looks like the Don slips away again.
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Wanna touchWolfsheim posted:I'm actually trying to think of meaningful differences under a pence presidency Not without his wife present anyway.
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fruit on the bottom posted:I think that's just pointing out the obvious. That's he's having a very angry meltdown? I mean I think it's pretty obvious. He got shamed in the lol trump's fine thread, how can he ever recover now?
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm actually trying to think of meaningful differences under a pence presidency Would not have ended TPP.
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Wolfsheim posted:I'm actually trying to think of meaningful differences under a pence presidency Pence is one of the most Evangelical Republicans left, which basically means instead of the wall there'd be a push to roll back Obergefell v. Hodges and instead of threatening to invade North Korea he'd threaten to invade Palestine and Iran. Pence isn't a particularly competent politician but next to Trump anyone looks like a genius.
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Yug posted:That's he's having a very angry meltdown? I mean I think it's pretty obvious. He got shamed in the lol trump's fine thread, how can he ever recover now? Lol dude
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Jun 15, 2017 22:58
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Instead of doing under cover sting operations to convince actual literal retards to join isis and plant bombs the FBI is giving them, they should just go under cover as lobbyists and bribe politicians. Seems like it would be the easiest slam dunk in the world.
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Yug posted:That's he's having a very angry meltdown? I mean I think it's pretty obvious. He got shamed in the lol trump's fine thread, how can he ever recover now? also, you suck
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Heaven Spacey posted:Pence is one of the most Evangelical Republicans left, which basically means instead of the wall there'd be a push to roll back Obergefell v. Hodges and instead of threatening to invade North Korea he'd threaten to invade Palestine and Iran. Pence isn't a particularly competent politician but next to Trump anyone looks like a genius. Yeah, I think he'd be worse than trump in a lot of ways. It's like having to pick what color the boots they're going to kick you in the face with are.
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Jun 15, 2017 23:00
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Heaven Spacey posted:Pence is one of the most Evangelical Republicans left, which basically means instead of the wall there'd be a push to roll back Obergefell v. Hodges and instead of threatening to invade North Korea he'd threaten to invade Palestine and Iran. Pence isn't a particularly competent politician but next to Trump anyone looks like a genius. Tillerson is already calling for regime change in iran and the wall was never actually happening anyway though Also I'm not sure there's an appreciable difference between pandering to hardcore evangelicals and being one when the end result is basically the same
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Yug posted:Pence would be a lot worse. If for no other reason than the fact that he knows government well enough that he would accomplished a great deal more at this point in the term I'm inclined to agree. I'm just happy we avoided to President Cruz timeline
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Yug posted:This is more meltdown and more evasion and still no evidence of Trump's corruption. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h3MM6JHZ_I
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fruit on the bottom posted:If for no other reason than the fact that he knows government well enough that he would accomplished a great deal more at this point in the term I'm inclined to agree. President Cruz would be the absolute worst. When Cruz won Wisconsin is when I had my election meltdown. I would be a broke brained under a Cruz presidency to be sure.
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This youtube video is not evidence of Trump's corruption.
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:I doubt he took money personally. I'm sure it's some stupid attenuated 4 degrees of separation bullshit . Asking for the tax returns is like asking for the birth certificate in terms of stupidity. Well, generally when you take Russian Mafia money you don't just transfer it directly from Ivan's Mobsky's bank account to yours Trump has burned so many American and European banks by being a bill-stiffing shithead and going bankrupt 3 times, no one with sense wants to lend to him. In steps some "very legitimate" Russian "businessmen" willing to let him launder... I mean borrow their money. For very reasonable rates. I think this is the real reason Trump's acting so guilty. He may or may not have been directly involved with the DNC hacking shenanigans (my money's on not, I think some combo of Stone/Flynn/Manafort was probably running the American end of that op), but he's probably terrified that if people poke into his affairs enough, they'll find out he's in hock to Russian mobsters and probably broke all kinds of laws to get there quote:And pretty lol for the Democrats to suddenly pretend to care about taking foreign money yeah who cares if the President potentially owes millions to anyone, let alone a foreign power. It's not like they can threaten to call in their debts or anything
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Nut to Butt posted:I watched like a ~20 min. excerpt a while back. I enjoyed it, but I recall bemusement at a couple of supposedly shocking "revelations" that were only that to the ignorant or naive. it's one of those types of documentaries that doesn't really work in small bites, the whole point of it is how many small incidents between people like Trump, the Assads, the internet, NY in the 70's, just a wide range of things is interconnected and directly related to each other a lot of it is common knowledge but you'd really have to be a policy wonk or a fan of geopolitics in general to see the wider picture it tries to paint e- also it's unbiased as gently caress, if I could distill it down to one phrase it's "the people in power have no idea what to do in an increasingly complex world, and the general populace has willingly let that happen" VikingSkull fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Hobelhouse posted:yeah who cares if the President potentially owes millions to anyone, let alone a foreign power. It's not like they can threaten to call in their debts or anything The point was Dems take it too and specifically Hillary took a poo poo ton from Saudi Arabia
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Yug posted:This youtube video is not evidence of Trump's corruption. Sometimes I like you  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky9Ro9pP2gc
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Aesop Poprock posted:Sometimes I like you Trump Derangement Syndrome folks. It could happen to someone you love. It could even happen to... you!
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Blue Train posted:The point was Dems take it too and specifically Hillary took a poo poo ton from Saudi Arabia I don't recall Hillary getting mob loans
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Spunky Psycho Ho posted:His spiritual corruption. You can just take one look at the guy and be like "there's a fat dumbass piece of poo poo right there, what a loser, hate that guy, burn in hell" Jesus knocks on Donald's door, but he gets stopped by the doorman  VikingSkull posted:the only corruption that matters is the corruption of the few lines of code underpinning our simulated universe that allowed this reality to become possible Just let it crash, lol. Restart and skip safe mode.
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Yug posted:Trump Derangement Syndrome folks. It could happen to someone you love. It could even happen to... you! Sometimes I don't https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBacZDDjScg
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Yug posted:That's he's having a very angry meltdown? I mean I think it's pretty obvious. He got shamed in the lol trump's fine thread, how can he ever recover now? hey if you wanna read mad words about corruption and stuff you can click my ? as well Hobelhouse posted:I think this is the real reason Trump's acting so guilty. He may or may not have been directly involved with the DNC hacking shenanigans (my money's on not, I think some combo of Stone/Flynn/Manafort was probably running the American end of that op), but he's probably terrified that if people poke into his affairs enough, they'll find out he's in hock to Russian mobsters and probably broke all kinds of laws to get there yeah I think it's pretty obvious he wasn't directly involved with any russian spycraft - there's no way that the FSB would give any information to the type of person who would ask them to hack clinton during a nationally televised press conference. believing that he's a mastermind is the domain of Still With Her hillarymen who can't accept that donald j trump is the legally elected president of the united states. it's pretty clear that trump personally is the definition of useful idiot and may honestly be unaware that he's doing anything wrong - even before his neural degradation started accelerating. I have to wonder if this whole investigative process could take so long that he'd escape jail time on a purely humanitarian "he's hardly sentient any more" reasoning.
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Hobelhouse posted:I don't recall Hillary getting mob loans that's a dilemma. which is worse? russian mob or wahhabists? the lesser evil is still evil
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rezatahs posted:that's a dilemma. which is worse? russian mob or wahhabists? How about both since trump supports Saudi Arabia and Russia, and the Russian mob might as well be the Russian government at this point
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Aesop Poprock posted:How about both since trump supports Saudi Arabia and Russia, and the Russian mob might as well be the Russian government at this point this is when you must ask yourself, does America support Saudi Arabia? or does America support a destabilized and fractured middle east?
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rezatahs posted:that's a dilemma. which is worse? russian mob or wahhabists? I don't recall the time Hillary took loans from the Saudis to keep her ongoing business operation afloat Influence peddling through donations is lovely and should be banned and is reason #346 Hillary was a terrible candidate but there's that and then there's literally being owned by a foreign power Prince Whatever calls up President Hillary and says "Hey, we donated to your Foundation... go gently caress up Iran for us OK? Or maybe no more donation, see?" President Hillary says "Lol, that's only 5.2% of our donations, gently caress off" Putin's guy calls up President Trump and says "Hey, our boys kept you afloat after literally no one else would lend to you, you still owe us money, and if you don't get sanctions lifted on us, we're going to call in your debt, crash your business empire, and reveal all the laws you broke by taking money from us?" never mind, the first scenario is clearly worse, full nihilism now
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VikingSkull posted:this is when you must ask yourself, does America support Saudi Arabia? or does America support a destabilized and fractured middle east? Why not both?
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