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Eternia, the country that's currently rampaging around killing vestals left and right, is where the Earth crystal is located. You know, where people like Victoria spend their weekends. I actually don't remember when they make it explicit, but even at this point, the odds are not exactly looking good for the Earth vestal.
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I don't think there's a specific point where it's outright said the Earth Vestal is dead, but the fact that we haven't heard word from her and the Fire Vestal is dead doesn't bode well. It's kind of interesting, though, that Olivia would have managed to out-live Agnes were it not for Tiz bumping into her.
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Oh, her name is Oblige too? Never caught that before. I guess that's just the given family name for vestals in training?
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Victoria F. Stein and Victor S. Court, huh. Not the most subtle of references there, though admittedly that's pretty par for the course so far. Given the little breakdown she just had I'm guessing she's the monster and he's the scientist.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Arcanist and Spiritmaster, as you can see, are this game's version of Magus and Devout. It's not a straight upgrade like, say, in Final Fantasy where you go from Black Mage to Black Wizard, though. They both have their own things. That being said, Corpse is Doom, not Death. It's also in the FF14 MMO, where it's similar: Ruin, Bio, Drain, etc. It mostly does damage over time, with direct damage as a backup to keep you busy while your poisons tick away. Since every MMO has to have a pet class, Arcanist got that too, and summons little elemental squirrels to help you out. It has a very geometric/mathematical/scientific theme to it. Not sure if it's showed up anywhere else; I haven't played 15, any of the 13s, or whatever the mobile spinoff was called with the light warrior and dark warrior parties. hey girl you up fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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kvx687 posted:Victoria F. Stein and Victor S. Court, huh. Not the most subtle of references there, though admittedly that's pretty par for the course so far. Given the little breakdown she just had I'm guessing she's the monster and he's the scientist. None of it is subtle, but I do like to try to avoid spoiling 'em before they're shown. 
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Oh, I'm aware. I have a number of people always talking to me about XIV. The way this game handles the class, though, makes it seem like a direct upgrade for BLM rather than its own class, though, which is why I equated it with Magus.
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Victoria's hair is larger than her body. She looks strange. She definitely looks odd. But of course, with a name like Victoria F. Stein...
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I like to imagine how the Eternian government works in practice, given that a magical monstrous sorcerer girl prone to fainting spells is 1/6th (effectively 1/4th) of the council that makes decisions regarding Eternia's policies. Do the Marshal and, say, Alternis compete to bribe her with sweets to win critical swing votes?
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Patter Song posted:I like to imagine how the Eternian government works in practice, given that a magical monstrous sorcerer girl prone to fainting spells is 1/6th (effectively 1/4th) of the council that makes decisions regarding Eternia's policies. Do the Marshal and, say, Alternis compete to bribe her with sweets to win critical swing votes? Also, you assume that the Grand Marshal and Alternis are usually in opposition. I think that aside from their disagreement on Edea's treatment, they probably get on pretty well. You have to wonder about the two persona non gratas in the Council though.
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Entry 42: Something in the Water Let's start off with a brief look at a variation of the showdown with Einheria. This middle section of the conversation, called Valkyrie Einheria in the event viewer, has two versions, A and B. A occurs if Einheria is met before Olivia's death, while B occurs if she is met after. The changed section starts after this line:   If I've learned anything since then, it's how hopeless a fool I was! The Council. The Forces. The Legion. None of you are making people's lives better! This is what you have to say? You murdered Olivia, the vestal of water, in cold blood! ...... And she was slaughtered. Sneered at! And for what? What ideal could that serve!? It was murder, base and cruel! You're blind. How can you be so nearsighted? I know what I've seen. I'll let no one deny it. Not even you.From there both versions of the cutscene are the same.  Today's Norende gift is... Tiz, where are you getting your suppliers? Norende's shaping up less like a sleepy farming village and more like the centerpoint of an international black market. Anyway, back in our party's version of reality, the party heads into the Temple of Water to give the crystal a long-awaited visit.  As they approach, Ringabel holds up a hand to stop the others.   The air is charged. It's totally different from before! Look, there! In the crystal!  ......? Rusalka...! That's Rusalka, Purveyor of Doom! It's the same as the last time... We can't awaken the crystal until we're rid of the beast, Agnès! Then I have no choice. I must do this! A rusalka is a female water spirit from Slavic folklore, similar to mermaids. They are said to be the souls of drowned women, especially those whose death was violent (suicide or murder).  Unlike Victor and Victoria, this will be a fair fight. Kind of.  Rusalka is water element. As such, she's weak to thunder. But this won't be so simple as stabbing away at her.  Every few turns Rusalka disappears into the ground, becoming unattackable.  If a target disappears while a character's mid-Jump, they'll end their Jump with a harmless landing rather than an attack.  Ideally, the turn while Rusalka is gone should be spent in Default to build BP and have higher defense...  Because Rusalka's next action will be popping back up with a strong multi-target water attack...  And spawning three clones. These clones have only a fraction of Rusalka's HP, but look identical (unless you use Freelancer's Examine to identify Rusalka beforehand) and hit just as hard. You only have a few turns before Rusalka disappears and the cycle starts fresh. I ended up restarting the fight because damage was too high without water resistance.  If that wasn't enough, Rusalka can also charm. When Rusalka takes actions, she makes wails that sound like a cross between a woman and a high-pitched whale. After Rusalka's done and the last clone's beaten down:  ......Agnès changes into the vestal garb.   To awaken it, you must set your own life force to resonate with the crystal's natural rhythm. Focus your prayers on the crystal and don't stop, Agnès. If it works as it should, we'll soon see dramatic results. I know I said it before, but be sure you don't stop before it's done. Keep praying until I give the signal to stop. No matter what. The flow of the crystal's energy could reverse and explode out of control. Is all of that clear, Agnès? I understand. You needn't repeat yourself. Agnès... ...... If it does go berserk, do we get a second chance at the ritual? No second chances. Which is why it's so important you all stay out. Alright, Agnès. Let's begin. Right. This is functionally identical to the Wind Crystal.  Tap the button some...  Eventually we see the crystal's nice blue color.  More tapping and the crystal explodes into shininess. Agnès pauses. Nnh...hnngh... Not yet! Just a little longer! Rgh...! More! Keep going!A few thousand button taps later:  Press X to Pray!  Not now, Airy, I'm on a roll!  As mentioned during the wind crystal, if we go on too long, Airy panics and Agnès stops on her own.  ... ... ... Agnès is gasping for breath. The '...' lines are always voice acted as sighing, gasping, grunting, that sort of thing.  I'm fine. No cause for worry... That makes two crystals... We're halfway there. ... ... ... (sound of Agnès panting) Agnès, you need to rest. You've been pushing yourself this whole time. I have to do this... I have to do it alone... The words of Olivia and Airy have struck Agnès. If the journey so far is any indication, she'll need that conviction to save the last two crystals.  Another crystal, another support ability slot. We leave the party as the scene switches back to Florem.   Ah! It's the guidance of the vestal. Praise be to her!The water crystal is quicker to recover than the wind crystal. Maybe because the wind crystal spent more time corrupted?  Continued line: Sometimes hide in the ground or create mirror images of herself. Rusalka infested the crystal, but the rest of the Temple stayed untouched. If Eternia now ignores Florem as much as Ancheim, at least the remaining Crystalists will have a clean place of worship.  A new section of the brooch is lit. Two more to go.  We did good. Going back to the Matriarch will trigger three cutscenes in a row. The first scene concerns the water crystal's revival, and only one version is listed in the Event Viewer. However, if you've already triggered optional scene The Vestal of Water is No More, informing the Matriarch of Olivia's death, a different scene plays which, so far as I can tell, unlisted.  I hear the oceans return to life. It is you to whom we owe this miracle, yes? That's our version of the first scene. Second scene changes depending on whether you've gotten rid of the Bloodrose Legion.  I give you the thanks of all Florem's people, in the vestal of water's stead. The nation will not return to its chaste and proper ways overnight, I'm certain... But once a new vestal is chosen, the people's hearts will unite behind her. Lastly, the third scene is always the same.  I was told the vestal of fire is deceased. I must hurry to the Fire Crystal's side. I see. Then beyond the sea, to Eisenberg and the Temple of Fire. If you follow the waters west of here, ever west, you will find it. First, cross the Miasma Woods, then to the shore of the inner sea. I shall make a mark of it upon your map. The seas are only newly tamed, and the journey is long. I pray you will be safe.Why is the Matriarch marking our map to remind us where we parked our ship? Maybe she's just marking the port where the party can find ships.  Before we get caught up in the next event, let's cover the alternate scenes with the Matriarch. First scene, if she hasn't been informed of Olivia's death:  I take it for a sign the Water Crystal, too, is returned to its pure state. What joy! And the vestal of water. Is she not with you as well? ...... Olivia Oblige, Vestal of Water, has given her life in the service of the crystals. I had thought, certainly...certainly the clearing waters were her doing... Lost to us... Gone from this world? What is Florem to do now!Second scene, if any of the four leaders of the Bloodrose Legion are left alive:  I beg you will forgive my presumption... Please, stay here. We need your guidance. My duty now takes me elsewhere. The Crystals of Fire and Earth remain in shadow. They are my responsibility. Not at all. And mine, I assure you. But the crystals must come first. You agree, Airy? Those iterations make for a more bittersweet chapter ending. There was a lot of blood, tears, and grim darkness, but that's Florem all wrapped up. The party preps for the journey back to Harena's port.   ...Are you so worried about me? Do I make you so worried? Of course I'm worried about you. After what happened, how could I not be...? I'm fine. I haven't the luxury of stopping to mope. ...... When we first met, you were praying to that pendant of yours, weren't you? This... The sage gave this to me when I was a child. He said something I didn't properly understand, then handed it to me. What did he say? Have the courage to think and act on your own. And the courage to disobey as well. And should you ever face a danger beyond all hope, this pendant will be your salvation. ...What do you think he meant? I had no idea, at the time. Even now, I cannot say that I understand any better. The sage is a mysterious man, but I trust his words were true. ...Now, that's enough talk. We ought to be moving.That was good of Tiz. He got Agnès out of her angst, if just for a minute. Let's take a mental break of our own.  Here's the current process on Norende. I accidently picked up a second person along the way, but having the extra help is appreciated for the higher level buildings, where construction regularly takes 48 - 99 hours.   Two new items from Norende. Most Norende items can be dropped or stolen from enemies, but it's much easier to lounge around and have Norende give you the stuff. A very, very quick and rough summary of the Titans in Greek myth is that they were the first gods and progenitors of Zeus and his brothers and sisters. Zeus and co. fought the Titans and won, proceeding to become the fickle, destructive gods well-known and loved (insert Zeus joke here) today. Next: The sea and sky may be clear, but the mood forecast calls for cloudy. -- Event Viewer Main Scenario: Purveyor of Doom The Water Crystal The Water Crystal Awakened Until the Flowers Return to Bloom - A Onward, to Eisenberg A Sea, Reborn Until the Flowers Return to Bloom - B Sub-Scenario: Valkyrie Einheria B Party Chat: The Pendant D's Journal: Agnès Oblige posted:The water vestal's demise removed the shield around the Water Crystal, and it fell into the clutches of evil. After a desperate struggle in which we defeated the creature Rusalka, the distraught Agnès awakened the Water Crystal, cleansing the seas of the world. D's Journal: Temple of Water posted:The Awakening: Arrayed in her vestal garb, Agnès chanted the ritual prayer to awaken the Water Crystal, which had been swallowed up in darkness. The crystal has now regained its radiance. 
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Greyarc posted:The water crystal is quicker to recover than the wind crystal. Maybe because the wind crystal spent more time corrupted?
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kvx687 posted:Victoria F. Stein and Victor S. Court, huh. Not the most subtle of references there, though admittedly that's pretty par for the course so far. Given the little breakdown she just had I'm guessing she's the monster and he's the scientist. F. Stein is an obvious enough reference, but I'm not getting what is S. Court a reference to. A little  if I'm allowed: Frankenstein is the scientist, the monster is deliberately nameless in the novel because Dr. Frankenstein is an horrible parent and human being. Victor should have been the F. Stein, not Victoria.
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Rusalka also has an attack called Aqua Regia, which lowers physical defense, as I recall. Enemies in this tend to use physicals a lot more than magic. And I really love how snubbed the party looks whenever Agnes says things like "You're my only friend, Olivia!" or "I have to do this alone!" Edit: Wait, you've been doing Norende with only one villager this whole time?!  Commander Keene posted:That brings up a good point. We were led to believe that the oceans were blighted because the Water Crystal had become corrupted, but Olivia's barrier prevented that until her death at the hands of Victoria. What had rotted the oceans, then? Somehow I never noticed that detail. At the very least, the issue is resolved now! Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jun 13, 2017 |
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Omobono posted:F. Stein is an obvious enough reference, but I'm not getting what is S. Court a reference to. Escort? Since he's always accompanying her and all.
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Commander Keene posted:That brings up a good point. We were led to believe that the oceans were blighted because the Water Crystal had become corrupted, but Olivia's barrier prevented that until her death at the hands of Victoria. What had rotted the oceans, then? Olivia's barrier was put up after the crystal was corrupted, (but before Rukalsha turned up,) as a stopgap measure to keep things from getting worse.
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Omobono posted:F. Stein is an obvious enough reference, but I'm not getting what is S. Court a reference to. But it's not like we've seen Victor do anything horrible to Victoria, other than letting her run wild and not teaching her basic things like killing people is wrong. I'm sure we'll learn more about them later. EggsAisle posted:Escort? Since he's always accompanying her and all. This makes sense. MightyPretenders posted:Olivia's barrier was put up after the crystal was corrupted, (but before Rukalsha turned up,) as a stopgap measure to keep things from getting worse. Actually she probably put up the barrier before she fled to safety because of the Bloodrose legion. Maybe the barrier can't prevent the crystals from falling into darkness.
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Now we can have all sorts of random encounters in the ocean! Or, wait, did that also get all the monsters out of it?
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So ends Chapter 2. We're moving right along! Time to reignite the Fire Crystal in memory of the fallen Vestal of Fire. We're really taking the fight to the Eternians. We've destroyed the Sky Knights, Khamer and Profiteur Enterprises, and the Bloodrose Legion.
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Button mashing is already annoying. What's even worse is button mashing which interrupts you to tell you to keep on button mashing!!! But I'm glad that we're out of Chapter 2. I think the plot and game really start to pick up from here, at least for a while.
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Glazius posted:Now we can have all sorts of random encounters in the ocean! Patter Song posted:We're really taking the fight to the Eternians. We've destroyed the Sky Knights, Khamer and Profiteur Enterprises, and the Bloodrose Legion.
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Let's Learn Jobs: Red Mage The fanciest jack-of-all trades, Red mage is good at everything but great at nothing, able to work decently with any party until endgame. Red mage is one of the six original Final Fantasy jobs, completing the trifecta with Black and White mages. Despite their usual role of mediocre all-rounder, their ability to deal physical damage, magic damage, and healing plus have impeccable fashion sense while saving the world ensures their popularity.   Job icon is a blood-colored rose, red like DeRosa of the Bloodrose Legion have you caught the theme yet. Job Command is white and black magic combined.  As befits the jack-of-all-trades, stats are middle of the road, though with a preference for magic over physical power. Red mages are not good at punching presumably because it might scuff their patent leather and silk gloves.  Blue are support abilities, red are skill abilities. Level 1 - B/W Magic Lv.1: Blindna, Cure, Poisona, Blizzard, Fire, Thunder Level 2 - MP 20% Up (Cost: 2) Level 3 - B/W Magic Lv.2: Aero, Protect, Shell, Poison, Silence, Sleep Level 4 - Turn Tables: BP + 1 when evade enemy attack. (Cost: 1) Level 5 - MP Free in a Pinch: No MP costs when HP critical. (Cost: 2) Level 6 - B/W Magic Lv.3: Cura, Esuna, Raise, Blizzara, Fira, Thundara Level 7 - Adrenaline: BP + 1 whenever user defeats an enemy. (Cost: 1) Level 8 - Save Magic MP: Black, white, time, summon magic MP cost -25%. (Cost: 3) Level 9 - BP Recovery: BP + 2 when first afflicted by status ailment. (Cost: 1) Level 10 - B/W Magic Lv.4: Aerora, Dispel, Reflect, Aspir, Drain, Fear Level 11 - Revenge: Allows other jobs to equip the red mage specialty. (Cost: 2) Level 12 - Revival: When HP hits critical (from non HP reducing skills), 75% chance for BP + 2. (Cost: 2) Level 13 - An Eye for an Eye: When HP hits critical, critical hit chance +900% for 5 turns. (Cost: 1) Level 14 - In the Red: Negative BP raises magic attack. (Cost: 1) Easy access to lower/middle tier black and white magic make red mage an upgrade to both white mage and black mage for the middle portion of the game. Bravely Default also expands the red mage into being BP manipulators, leading to several support skills with a good, if risky potential for abuse when combined with jobs we'll get later.  25% chance to increase. Too unreliable for endgame, but a nice bonus when playing as red mage. This is one of my favorite outfits. Look at these fancypants. Really, take a look, they are quite nice, with red stitching on dark grey blue fabric. Stylized crimson -- sorry, blood -- red redingotes (riding coats), all the rage with dandies of 1800s western Europe, are the centerpoint of the rose-festooned outfits.    
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Stat modifiers: HP: +10% MP: +20% VIT: -10% INT: +20% MND: +20% AGI: +10%
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Jeez, I forgot it took forever for Red Mage to get Level 4 Black/White Magic. That's ridiculous.
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ultrafilter posted:No dualcast. Sad! Dual cast is redundant with the brave/default system, so red mags gets bp-manipulating abilities in exchange.
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This game tends to focus on physical attack over magic as well, so that might be part of the issue. Also imagine how broken Dualcast would be with Brave. That's eight spells in one turn.
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When you've got stuff like Revenge and Revival and BP Recovery all stacked you don't really need Dualcast, by that point you're just making GBS threads out turns.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Jeez, I forgot it took forever for Red Mage to get Level 4 Black/White Magic. That's ridiculous. One of the reasons why red magic actually suffers, as opposed to just being a black mage with white magic or a white mage with black magic.
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When you get BP recovery and black magic Poison, you can give yourself a decent BP engine. Normally it's a spell you can only cast on one target, but the Black Magic capstone ability allows you to cast it on your whole party. A whole party getting +2 BP for the 1 BP spell cast. But it gobbles 2 support slots, so it kills some of the more creative uses of those slots.
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Are the image links not working for anyone else? Seeing the costumes is basically my favorite part of the job posts, so this currently sucks.
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ulmont posted:Dual cast is redundant with the brave/default system, so red mags gets bp-manipulating abilities in exchange. YggiDee posted:When you've got stuff like Revenge and Revival and BP Recovery all stacked you don't really need Dualcast, by that point you're just making GBS threads out turns.
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Lord Zedd-Repulsa posted:Are the image links not working for anyone else? Seeing the costumes is basically my favorite part of the job posts, so this currently sucks. It's not just you. Looks like LPix is having an issue at the moment. Edit: Hobgoblin2099 posted:Wait, you've been doing Norende with only one villager this whole time?! Slow and steady gets the work done. Greyarc fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Blind Duke posted:When you get BP recovery and black magic Poison, you can give yourself a decent BP engine. Normally it's a spell you can only cast on one target, but the Black Magic capstone ability allows you to cast it on your whole party. A whole party getting +2 BP for the 1 BP spell cast. Victoria will exterminate you! Like she exterminated us after killing Olivia. There are a lot more things you can do for BP batteries. The great thing about this game is that there isn't just one option. A lot of different options are perfectly suited for the situations you face.
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Yes, but it's the first BP Engine available to the party, IIRC, and the only one available with the classes we have in the LP now. Any others will have to wait a while, IIRC.
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I have to admit, this is a unique way to take the red mage.
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I'm digging the outfits. Very snappy.
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Well, you know what they say about how fast the red ones go.
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Commander Keene posted:Yes, but it's the first BP Engine available to the party, IIRC, and the only one available with the classes we have in the LP now. Any others will have to wait a while, IIRC. It requires a really high black mage job level. Well, if you're dedicated enough, you can get it done. But then it's a grind.
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