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sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

anakha posted:

Is the 2017 iPad worth upgrading from an Air 1? I'd be perfectly happy with my 32GB Air 1 if not for the limited RAM causing browser tabs and apps to be reloaded.

I've been hearing some criticisms of the display, but are those display issues something I'd notice if coming from the Air 1?

Pretty sure the display is virtually identical to the Air 1, like could use screen assembly from one to repair the other. The display is just a downgrade from Air 2 and Pros.

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Pertplus
Nov 7, 2009

What's the cheapest tablet I can buy that would be dependable, have a decent battery life, and a screen comparable to the ipad (>250 ppi, ~9.7 inches, good brightness and contrast, etc.). I don't really care about cpu and ram as long as it doesn't stutter flipping through pdf files, which is what I'll be using it for primarily.

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Pertplus posted:

What's the cheapest tablet I can buy that would be dependable, have a decent battery life, and a screen comparable to the ipad (>250 ppi, ~9.7 inches, good brightness and contrast, etc.). I don't really care about cpu and ram as long as it doesn't stutter flipping through pdf files, which is what I'll be using it for primarily.

Just get a used iPad Air 1? Should be about the cheapest you can go and still get what you want.

Kreez
Oct 18, 2003

Looking for something to watch movies while travelling. Using a beat up old Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" at the moment, and to go along with being bulky, heavy, and ancient, it's now refusing to charge from anything but my laptop. What's the cheapest I could get away with paying for something that's nice and light, in the 7-9" range, expandable storage, and good battery life?

nelson
Apr 12, 2009
College Slice

kloa posted:

They're supposedly announcing the successor next week, so keep an eye out on your return policy if you want to return it. Good chance the SP5 will go on sale everywhere after it's announced.

Just saw the new SurfacePro demos at the local Microsoft store. My wife and I both thought they were pretty sweet. Excellent display, 13 hour battery life (according to the employee), light weight, really cool stylus. They officially go on sale June 15 but MS is accepting pre-orders now. They look even better if you go to the Apple store first. How Apple can charge more for lesser technology is beyond me.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE
They're still using the lovely Marvell wireless chips unfortunately, I'm soured on them after the one in my SP3 straight up died forcing me to use dongles. :smith:

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
The marvel chip in my surface pro somehow kept causing it to have memory leaks and hard crashes within 20 minutes of plugging or unplugging any type cover or other peripheral into it

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

nelson posted:

How Apple can charge more for lesser technology is beyond me.

Have you been alive at any point in the 21st century? :shobon:

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

isndl posted:

They're still using the lovely Marvell wireless chips unfortunately, I'm soured on them after the one in my SP3 straight up died forcing me to use dongles. :smith:

I'll never understand why they stick to this loving thing. It makes the Surface Pro, an otherwise amazing device, finicky as hell. It's the primary thing an average user uses or cares about : internet access. Why skimp there? The Surface Pros are expensive already, just put a nice Intel adapter on it, drat.

Noctone
Oct 25, 2005

XO til we overdose..
Heh, I was wondering why my SP4 is so loving finicky and terrible w/r/t wifi. If I had a nickel for every time I've had to reboot the system to get wifi to work I'd have enough to buy an SP5.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Couple of things about lovely WiFi cards: you should make windows never turn the WiFi off when it sleeps or hibernate (under power management and also make it max performance) and also make sure that the WiFi chip's device in device manager has the box unchecked that says "let windows turn this device off to save power" or else it'll lose connections alllllll the time and you'll need to restart to fix it. The battery loss is minor and probably neutral if you factor in the constant restarting, as well as the fact you save yourself a headache.

loving Marvell chip.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
I am an old person who has been out of the tablet market for years. I will be going to Europe soon for about 3 weeks, but I need to finish a few papers that I want to submit for publication by the end of the summer, and I don't want to carry my behemoth of a laptop (17 inch screen). Essentially all I need is something light, that runs microsoft word or compatible, and that can do a remote desktop connection through VPN so that I can use my university's stats server. Is there a tablet that fits the bill, or should I look into some of the cheap windows netbooks?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Pretty sure an iPad can do all of that

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE
If you're looking for a full Windows OS there's a whole lot of Surface clones on the market now in addition to the Surfaces themselves, but I haven't been keeping up with the fine details to really recommend one specifically. May come down to your desired budget/specs.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Do netbooks still exist

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

joepinetree posted:

I am an old person who has been out of the tablet market for years. I will be going to Europe soon for about 3 weeks, but I need to finish a few papers that I want to submit for publication by the end of the summer, and I don't want to carry my behemoth of a laptop (17 inch screen). Essentially all I need is something light, that runs microsoft word or compatible, and that can do a remote desktop connection through VPN so that I can use my university's stats server. Is there a tablet that fits the bill, or should I look into some of the cheap windows netbooks?

The VPN thing might be weird, but if an iPad can't do that then a Surface certainly can.

joepinetree
Apr 5, 2012
So it turns out that my university uses anyconnect for vpn and that there is a remote desktop protocol app for android. What is a good value android that takes an external keyboard? Specs matter less because it would be all about contacting the stats server.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Wowporn posted:

Do netbooks still exist

Largely pushed out by Chromebooks, but they're still around. HP Stream 11, for example.

Speaking of...

joepinetree posted:

So it turns out that my university uses anyconnect for vpn and that there is a remote desktop protocol app for android. What is a good value android that takes an external keyboard? Specs matter less because it would be all about contacting the stats server.

You might well want to look at Chromebooks - You can get an Anyconnect client and ChromeRDP costs $10, so it should do you.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 10:40 on Jun 9, 2017

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness
Looking for a Nexus 9 replacement for my Mom, should be no smaller than the Nexus 9 and needs to run Android. Mainly to be used for video watching and light gaming/facebook. Budget is around 400 USD where it looks like to me that the Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 would be just about the only decent option? Talking about the 2016 refresh with the Snapdragon 652 SoC here.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Incessant Excess posted:

Looking for a Nexus 9 replacement for my Mom, should be no smaller than the Nexus 9 and needs to run Android. Mainly to be used for video watching and light gaming/facebook. Budget is around 400 USD where it looks like to me that the Galaxy Tab S2 9.7 would be just about the only decent option? Talking about the 2016 refresh with the Snapdragon 652 SoC here.

I'm still waiting on the Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus to be available to buy.

Incessant Excess
Aug 15, 2005

Cause of glitch:
Pretentiousness

spookygonk posted:

I'm still waiting on the Lenovo Tab 4 8 Plus to be available to buy.

This looks interesting, the 10 inch version does at least, hopefully it's not too far out.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Incessant Excess posted:

This looks interesting, the 10 inch version does at least, hopefully it's not too far out.

Originally the global launch date was for the end of May, but that's quietly slipped. Lenovo Sweden has the 4 (not plus model) 10" for (pre)order with a 3 - 4 week wait.

It's annoying, as I'm ready to buy an 8+ for me & my other half right now.

There's also the newly announced ASUS Zenpad 3 8.0 Z582KL, which gives a bit more choice for people.

spookygonk fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jun 10, 2017

spiderbot
Oct 21, 2012


I'm thinking of getting a tablet or 2 in 1 for taking notes in meetings and reading ebooks. Due to cost I'm looking at refurbished machines, in particular the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, Dell Venue 8 or 11, and Samsung ATIV Pro 700T. Which of these will give me the easiest and most reliable hand writing experience? I am leaning towards Windows machines because I know I can use Office etc. , but is this less of an advantage now that you can get Office 365 on Android? Or is the Android version sub par?

Epi Lepi
Oct 29, 2009

You can hear the voice
Telling you to Love
It's the voice of MK Ultra
And you're doing what it wants
I've had an old rear end iPad for years now, I'm not even sure what model it is and I need an upgrade. Mine for whatever reason just constantly crashes and reloads on wikia style sites. Like I'll be reading a guide on IGN and the thing will just crash and reload forever.

I mostly use my iPad to browse the internet or watch YouTube, occasionally I use the Google Drive/Docs/Sheets apps when playing Dungeons and Dragons type games, and iBooks for all my rulebook PDFS. The drawing stuff that people are talking about on this page sounds neat but entirely unnecessary to me if that inflates the price out of my budget.

I'm not married to getting another iPad but my phone is an iPhone so having two Apple products might be good for synergy or whatever. I don't really want to spend more than $300. I don't know if that's a tight budget or not cause I am so out of touch with current tablets. If it's unreasonable I will adjust.

So tell me what the optimal purchase is for mostly internet browsing and YouTube but also good for RPG nerd type things.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Epi Lepi posted:

I've had an old rear end iPad for years now, I'm not even sure what model it is and I need an upgrade. Mine for whatever reason just constantly crashes and reloads on wikia style sites. Like I'll be reading a guide on IGN and the thing will just crash and reload forever.

I mostly use my iPad to browse the internet or watch YouTube, occasionally I use the Google Drive/Docs/Sheets apps when playing Dungeons and Dragons type games, and iBooks for all my rulebook PDFS. The drawing stuff that people are talking about on this page sounds neat but entirely unnecessary to me if that inflates the price out of my budget.

I'm not married to getting another iPad but my phone is an iPhone so having two Apple products might be good for synergy or whatever. I don't really want to spend more than $300. I don't know if that's a tight budget or not cause I am so out of touch with current tablets. If it's unreasonable I will adjust.

So tell me what the optimal purchase is for mostly internet browsing and YouTube but also good for RPG nerd type things.

Wikia and most other commercial wiki hosts load their pages up with insane ads and tracking libraries that can easily exhaust RAM on mobile browsers. The ads also sometimes contain redirect exploits to try to open the App Store, and that can crash your browser as well. If you've got a vaguely recent iPad you might want to try a content blocker like 1Blocker first (you don't get all the functionality without the "premium" upgrade, but you'll get enough in the free version to see whether it might help).

If you still want a new tablet, a current-gen iPad 32GB is $329 list. It should be fine if you don't want to keep a bunch of media other than PDFs in local storage. Keep an eye on deal sites and you can probably pick one up for $300.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

Just wanna say I've never had any issues with the wireless chip in my SP1 or 3, the things are gold, no other tablet I've ever seen and certainly no Android or iOS devices can come remotely close to it.

MrBond
Feb 19, 2004

FYI, Cheese NIPS are not the same as Cheez ITS

Space Gopher posted:

Wikia and most other commercial wiki hosts load their pages up with insane ads and tracking libraries that can easily exhaust RAM on mobile browsers. The ads also sometimes contain redirect exploits to try to open the App Store, and that can crash your browser as well. If you've got a vaguely recent iPad you might want to try a content blocker like 1Blocker first (you don't get all the functionality without the "premium" upgrade, but you'll get enough in the free version to see whether it might help).

If you still want a new tablet, a current-gen iPad 32GB is $329 list. It should be fine if you don't want to keep a bunch of media other than PDFs in local storage. Keep an eye on deal sites and you can probably pick one up for $300.

Yeah depending on how old this iPad is, that's not a surprising explanation.

Easiest answer is regular iPad, $329 or $429 for 128GB. It will probably be on sale or a refurb if you want to play the waiting game.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

spiderbot posted:

I'm thinking of getting a tablet or 2 in 1 for taking notes in meetings and reading ebooks. Due to cost I'm looking at refurbished machines, in particular the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1, Dell Venue 8 or 11, and Samsung ATIV Pro 700T. Which of these will give me the easiest and most reliable hand writing experience? I am leaning towards Windows machines because I know I can use Office etc. , but is this less of an advantage now that you can get Office 365 on Android? Or is the Android version sub par?

Straight up, office on mobile devices is very poo poo for anything above entering data into existing forms, or with OneNote. So an android version will be pretty poo poo, unless all you're doing is taking notes in OneNote. There is a free version of office apps for mobile devices that have very, very reduced capabilities called Word Mobile, Office Mobile, etc. (I think OneNote too for pen writing) which should fit any basic usage needs like taking notes or writing a paper. These are also available on the windows store. Android tablets also suffer from a lack of tablet optimized apps, much worse than iOS, and historically receive about 0 software updates and security updates.

An iPad is also not at all a bad idea (in fact I recommend you get one instead of the other options). You can check out their refurb store (Apple refurbs are very very reliable) here. Prices start at $339 for refurbs but weirdly enough the new ones are honestly roughly the same price ($329) but you'll need to buy a pen in any case for writing. Apple Pencils are nice, for sure, but I think there are other cheaper options that aren't $100+. Battery life under normal usage is, I think, something like 6-7 hours? iOS apps for iPads are generally optimized for them, but sometimes not and they just upscale the mobile versions. You can, importantly, use the Office 365 (or maybe just Mobile Office apps) or use the Apple native ones which are similarly bare bones like the Mobile Office apps for free.

You could also get a Surface Pro 3 refurbished from Microsoft. It's $450ish (I don't know your budget) here. You get a pen for writing and drawing included with it and it's full Win10. Battery life under normal usage will be probably 4-5 hours.

jokes fucked around with this message at 17:02 on Jun 22, 2017

well why not
Feb 10, 2009




GF was given a Kindle Fire, 7" 5th Generation. Is this thing any good? It's still in the box. How locked into Amazon is it? She already has a real kindle for reading books.

Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

It will be fine for web browsing/posting/watching movies but it will experience noticeable slow downs if you try to do anything taxing. You can install the play store on it but you can neither remove nor disable the majority of the Amazon apps on it, and there are a lot

The Slack Lagoon
Jun 17, 2008



I want to get a tablet my wife can watch tv/browse the internet on, which I'd like to be able to play games like Baldur's Gate and stuff on while watching tv with her. Preferably budget of less than $200, but open to potentially more expensive options.

Prefer Android as I haven't useed anythign iOS since my second gen iPod touch

Setset
Apr 14, 2012
Grimey Drawer
Has anyone tried the new ipad pro? 120hz seems pretty bonkers on a tablet

adorai
Nov 2, 2002

10/27/04 Never forget
Grimey Drawer

Blue Train posted:

It will be fine for web browsing/posting/watching movies but it will experience noticeable slow downs if you try to do anything taxing. You can install the play store on it but you can neither remove nor disable the majority of the Amazon apps on it, and there are a lot
Things may have changed, but I was able to root mine and install alternative firmware. More or less, it runs stock android at this point.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Lube banjo posted:

Has anyone tried the new ipad pro? 120hz seems pretty bonkers on a tablet

It's really, really fast.

Chiwie
Oct 21, 2010

DROP YOUR COAT AND GRAB YOUR TOES, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE THE WILD GOOSE GOES!!!!
Is the Nvidia K1 still for sale? Can't find it anywhere online.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp

Chiwie posted:

Is the Nvidia K1 still for sale? Can't find it anywhere online.

Far as I know they do batches of production, so check back in a couple of months. Personally I would hold out for the Lenovo Tab 4 Plus has some decent specs which if it can keep the price point low should be a good buy.

spookygonk
Apr 3, 2005
Does not give a damn

Chillyrabbit posted:

Far as I know they do batches of production, so check back in a couple of months. Personally I would hold out for the Lenovo Tab 4 Plus has some decent specs which if it can keep the price point low should be a good buy.

If it ever gets released.

Chillyrabbit
Oct 24, 2012

The only sword wielding rabbit on the internet



Ultra Carp

spookygonk posted:

If it ever gets released.

The non plus version is being released now in Canada and it seems they are slowly releasing them depending on the country.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound
Tablet suggestions for something to take notes on at work / in meetings, basic internet access, and run Android apps?

Ideally something about the size of a Kindle that could fit into a coat pocket. Was thinking of a Kindle Fire but want access to Android apps.

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MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




When you say take notes, do you mean writable stylus support?

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