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Pope Guilty posted:Three attributes with the original attributes as Specializations is how BNS MET works, so it's not like that's new with him. Perhaps not, but was their justification the same nonsense?
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The old MET system involved memorizing a couple of dozen adjectives which corresponded to Physical, Social, and Mental, and your total number of traits in the relevant category was used to break ties in RPS, so it's a pretty noticeable improvement. It's a lot easier to remember three numbers instead of nine. E: I should note that in LARP simpler odd generally better- the BNS system wants to be simpler than tabletop while still letting crunch addicts jerk off over their killer builds, so it's a compromise between those objectives. Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Loomer posted:EDIT: It's time for a loving block by block urban horror hexcrawl. I'm as serious as a goddamn heartattack
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Loomer posted:So, a look at how feedings impact you. I haven't read the rules document yet - I mean, I honestly don't give a poo poo about rules most of the time - but here's a glimpse from the scenario document. Can't wait to create a special effect for every NPC's blood, that's a great use of prep time and creativity.
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Ferrinus posted:It's time for a loving block by block urban horror hexcrawl. I'm as serious as a goddamn heartattack tbh that sounds about as fun as frenching a waffle iron
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At the same time the oWoD always gave the impression of being so loving infested with monsters that it might be reasonable.
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yeah it's a great way to increase tension and encourage cross-splat, too! so you get I dunno a Gnosis 4 Nephandi instead of an adult red dragon but just like d&d idk what they would do with treasure inflation what are Rust Monsters?
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:tbh that sounds about as fun as frenching a waffle iron You encounter three shovelheads in a 10x30 alleyway, roll for initiative.
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Loomer posted:THERE'S AN HONEST TO GOD RANDOM ENCOUNTER TABLE WHAT THE gently caress I blame Swedracula's worship of 1st Edition Masquerade. The earliest books had poo poo like that, probably an artifact of the titanic shadow AD&D cast over everything back then- Call of Cthuhlu had "50% chance of 1d3 Deep Ones in this room" and the like too.
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Pope Guilty posted:Can't wait to create a special effect for every NPC's blood, that's a great use of prep time and creativity. I like that drinking a guy on crank's blood gives you a free speed boost. Why aren't vamps just draining addicts all the time?
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Well now you get to minmax your herd, it's genius!!!
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Kavak posted:I blame Swedracula's worship of 1st Edition Masquerade. The earliest books had poo poo like that, probably an artifact of the titanic shadow AD&D cast over everything back then- Call of Cthuhlu had "50% chance of 1d3 Deep Ones in this room" and the like too. Liberal use of random tables is part of the Swedish RPG landscape. Probably inherited it from AD&D back in the day, but we really went nuts with it. The most egregious example is Eon where dealing damage involves rolling to hit, rolling to see where on the body you hit and then depending on whether your weapon is crushing, slashing or thrusting rolling on the corresponding table to see exactly how and where you hit on that body part so you can apply the correct damage multipliers. Hell, the most legendary module of all time consists of nothing but wandering through an enchanted, inescapable forest rolling for random encounters until you stumble on enough relevant ones to get out. Now personally I love all that, but seeing Swedracula shove it into Vampire feels a lot like seeing one of those unironic deviantArt pencil drawings of Shrek as a tortured goth or whatever.
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Listen here you, when I was a boy if we wanted to hit a troll with an axe we had to roll on the table uphill both ways in pitch darkness, and that's how we liked it. e: I feel obligated to note that the system with the over-specific hit tables also has no less than three different hp systems and Roll To Not Die. Terrorforge fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Who wants to see what else blood can give you?! No one? TOO BAD. We've got blood for every occasion and every minmax situation! Want to eat a baby? We have baby blood! Wanna know what the blood of a traumatized homeless woman tastes like? You're in luck! We have blood from gay clubs! Dietz Vormann, 21: Nervous wine-store clerk on his first big gay night out. Submissive. Blood provides: +1 die for Dominate-related rolls. DJ Clark Kent, 42: Worshipped, secretly straight, flirty and terribly busy. Hates rock music and goths Blood provides: +2 dice for Awe (Presence) Tavin Salim, 35: taxi-driver visiting his family, from Kolkata, huge dude with a booming laugh and constant jokes about Europeans. Into blood-play it turns out. Blood provides: +1 die for Presence-related rolls The Spartans, 22-35: Twelve big burly hot men, mostly with beards and close-cropped hair and abs extra defined by bodypaint. They could be a soccer team. They could be cosplayers. They could be a stag party. No one knows since they stay “in character” all the time. They are all super-party and are looking for well-trained men to join their last stand at Thermopylae. If you pull one, you pull five and if they see anyone being attacked in the club they all jump in to help. They are dangerous in a group and three of them have prop spears (made of wood) and leather shields they use with some skill. If a fight breaks out they may well overpower the coterie or even stake one of them by accident. Physical 3, Melee 2: 3 spears doing +3 damage. Blood provides: First use of Fortitude or Potence (roll randomly) free each scene I won't lie, the idea of a couple of goth vampires running away from a bunch of drunk gay Spartans who staked their buddy is incredibly funny to me. Blood from plastic surgery clinics! Lana Rubenius, 45: Danish gallery curator, mother of two, has finally saved up correcting a vaginal injury she sustained in giving birth to her daughter Lina 2 years ago. Blood provides: First use of Fortitude is free for each scene Berthold Zimmerman, 55: German businessman (car sales), overnight after liposuction and Botox treatment. Is high on pain meds, can’t sleep and is watching porn, dreaming about the girls he will score with his new flesh. Blood provides: +1 die on Presence-related rolls Agathe Irmuska, 26: Belarussian breast-cancer victim replacing a breast with silicone implant. Sleeping heavily (sedated) and dreaming about her best friend and her running away together. Blood provides: +1 die on Auspex-related rolls if fed from while dreaming. Otherwise nil. Dr Nicolai Noaca, 62: Romanian plastic surgeon in a life-crisis. Believes he was destined to become a cop and has wasted his life. Bitter. Blood provides: No special blood effects. Blood from a nightclub disaster! Katja Sonnerstam and Anja Niebling, 16 and 17: freshly dead club kids, the girls’ blood still retains the resonance of abject fear Blood provides: +2 dice to Dread Gaze (Presence). Martin Kanerva: Coked up, adrenaline pumping veteran club-fiend Blood provides: First use of Celerity is free in each scene. Nik Kyller, 37: Drug dealer, so happy to be alive! Blood Provides: +1 die on Presence-based rolls. Blood from the streets! Officer Karla Braunstein, 32: Local traffic police woman (pregnant) Blood provides: Blush of Life (appear human for current scene) Lt. Wolfram Thiessen, 44: Drunk vice cop who happens to be in a brothel nearby Blood provides: Drunk (-1 to resist Frenzy for current scene) Doner Gulbekian, 58: Armenian refugee, bum sleeping on roof Blood provides: +1 die on Obfuscate-related tests Ilja Mlinac, 42: Homeless ex-military with an undefinable Balkan accent, a lovely prosthetic arm, and an uncaring attitude toward vampires. Blood provides: First use of Fortitude free each scene Adelina, 33: Homeless addict, survivor of years of humiliation but not the least bitter or broken. hosed up and with a battery of weird tics. Blood provides: +1 die for Auspex-related rolls Henrich Böll, 25: Urban explorer and adrenaline junkie. Blood provides: First use of Celerity free each scene Blood from refugee children! Reem Abadi, 12: survived repeated beatings by soldiers. Saw mom and dad drown off the coast of Cyprus. Blood provides: First use of Fortitude free each scene Bana Kabudi,14: proud and charismatic she holds her head high. Blood provides: +1 die to Dominate-related rolls Jonny Korda, 16 (really 20): Abducted by ISIS, brainwashed and forced to walk across a mine-field. Addicted to methamphetamines and has constant nightmares. Acts tough and talks like a radicalised islamist but is constantly afraid. Blood provides: First use of Celerity free each scene Blood from a random encounter chart! 1. Dro Forberg, 59: German accountant, sixth sense for phony books, on his way home or back from getting strong Turkish coffee Blood provides: +1 die for Auspex-related tests 2. Suleiman Erdogan, 24: Turkish street thief, fast and cunning hands and feet Blood provides: First use of Celerity free in each scene 3. Otto Karsten, 39: Austrian marathon runner, out for a jog Blood provides: First use of Celerity free in each scene (Marathons, as we all know, are all about speed - not enduance.) 4. Curt Stolko, 43: Bosnian boxer and thug, works as an enforcer for a local crime boss Blood provides: +1 die for Dominate-related tests 5. Marion Howard, 62: American tourist caught up in all this and she doesn’t approve of these foreign behaviors AT ALL, product of generations of Beacon Hill Boston aristocracy and incapable of understanding that life isn’t designed for her personally Blood provides: +1 die for Dominate-related tests 6. Rafaella Pinarello, 48: Italian cancer survivor, in Berlin for a medical conference, sneaking a cigarette where nobody can see her Blood provides: First use of Fortitude free in each scene 7. Konrad Wyznocki, 40: Polish home builder who does all the work himself to save up his money, hasn’t had a day off since the Wall came down because he’s an amphetamine and gambling addict, out on a job or a drug run Blood provides: First use of Potence free in each scene (You may recall that 'the Wall' came down in 1989. He was twelve in 89.) 8. Raisa Westarp, 18: German Instagram model, taking “urban decadence” selfie Blood provides: +1 die for Presence-related tests 9. Natassja Klausenberg, 33: Salesperson of the month nine times running at the cosmetics counter at KaDeWe, on a date with a rich idiot (Volker, full of useless blood) Blood provides: +1 die for Presence-related tests 10. 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It's like the announcer in From Dusk till Dawn wrote an RPG. We got hairy blood, bloody blood, we got snappin' blood, we got silk blood, velvet blood, Naugahyde blood, we even got horse blood, dog blood, chicken blood! If you can find cheaper blood anywhere else, drink it!
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Gay nightclub victim NPC stats on the anniversary of the Pulse shooting? That's our White Wolf!
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It's distasteful enough on its own, I don't think we need to reach to connect it to worse things. (Unless this dropped on the 12th in which case holy poo poo)
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Nice try, but I don't think this is quite up to the standards of Worst World Of Darkness Book. Tell them to go back and try harder. 
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ZearothK posted:Well, the rules are Ken Hite's thing, the scenario is Swedish Dracula's thing. Going from the talk Hite did on his podcast, the rules are also Swedish Dracula's thing with Hite implementing what he wants and making suggestions.
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Kavak posted:(Unless this dropped on the 12th in which case holy poo poo) It dropped on the 15th, which means the Pulse anniversary had been in the news for two days before they shrugged and clicked POST. Agreed that it's probably just a terrible coincidence. Likely more astonishingly unaware than intentionally edgy.
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Loomer posted:The Spartans, 22-35: Twelve big burly hot men, mostly with beards and close-cropped hair and abs extra defined by bodypaint. They could be a soccer team. They could be cosplayers. They could be a stag party. No one knows since they stay “in character” all the time. They are all super-party and are looking for well-trained men to join their last stand at Thermopylae. If you pull one, you pull five and if they see anyone being attacked in the club they all jump in to help. They are dangerous in a group and three of them have prop spears (made of wood) and leather shields they use with some skill. If a fight breaks out they may well overpower the coterie or even stake one of them by accident. The gently caress Is This quote:Jonny Korda, 16 (really 20): Abducted by ISIS, brainwashed and forced to walk across a mine-field. Addicted to methamphetamines and has constant nightmares. Acts tough and talks like a radicalised islamist but is constantly afraid. The gently caress Is This Kurieg fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Terrorforge posted:Liberal use of random tables is part of the Swedish RPG landscape. Probably inherited it from AD&D back in the day, but we really went nuts with it. The most egregious example is Eon where dealing damage involves rolling to hit, rolling to see where on the body you hit and then depending on whether your weapon is crushing, slashing or thrusting rolling on the corresponding table to see exactly how and where you hit on that body part so you can apply the correct damage multipliers. Hell, the most legendary module of all time consists of nothing but wandering through an enchanted, inescapable forest rolling for random encounters until you stumble on enough relevant ones to get out. Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Coriolis, which is from that region, also has loads of tables to roll on, from random shopping encounters to random planet exploration. Glad to know it's part of the national DNA.
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Kurieg posted:What Is this loving intentional??? Like I'm having a really hard time believing they just accidentally created something this close the the Pulse shooting. Is this their hosed up attempt to be "edgy"!?
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Kurieg posted:What This is the antediluvian horror of the superfan rising to consume its children, the game line.
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There's not really a resemblance to the Pulse nightclub events. The sexclub hosting a gay party night full of spartans is just a possible location and not the target of any fighting in the scenario. There is an attack on a nightclub, but it's a van with bombs and I don't think any resemblance is intentional. I mean, it's garbage, but I don't think we need to hit it on that count - unless there were a bunch of spartan guys or something at Pulse that I'm unware of.
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"Brainwashed 16 year old victim of ISIS." should be treated with a tad bit more gravity than "Orc Warrior (level 1 Fighter) Often Chaotic Evil."
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moths posted:It dropped on the 15th, which means the Pulse anniversary had been in the news for two days before they shrugged and clicked POST. A bunch of Swede larpers give zero shits about an American gay club shooting.
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Men (big burly hot): No. appearing (1-12), gay Treasure type S: blood may be consumed to mimic effects of Potion of Strength or Haste (roll randomly)
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So does the player know what bennie each person-cum-capri-sun provides in a scene or do they only find out after taking a drink? Because if it's the latter, what happens when you get the same benefit twice from feeding? Does 'first use of <x> is free' expand to the first two or is it wasted?
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IIRC you only get the benefit of the last person you fed from and you only keep the benefit until you go below half blood points.
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Okay, so if I'm getting the rules right... Any time you roll a 1 on a Hunger Die, you get a minor compulsion trigger. If you get it on two or more, you get a major compulsion. And unless you kill people - which is a fast road to humanity degeneration so hello unplayable characters - you're looking at always carrying around at least 1 hunger die. So you will nearly always have a... What's the statistical chance of getting a compulsion with 1, 2, or 3 hunger die out of 6? I'm terrible at probabilities.
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Kurieg posted:What It's Ripped From The Headlines™ Honestly the spartans are just kind of endearingly dumb in a "this is my first time STing and I watched 300 last night" kind of way. The ISIS kid on the other hand is literally the fever dream of the European far-right. I'm surprised he isn't described as lurking in dark corners, waiting to ambush hard-working Ethnic Europeans and steal their jobs. ZearothK posted:Oh, that makes a lot of sense. Coriolis, which is from that region, also has loads of tables to roll on, from random shopping encounters to random planet exploration. Glad to know it's part of the national DNA. Oh yeah. I never played that, but it's from the same people who are in charge of Mutant, the previous edition of which ("Heirs to the Apocalypse") has a special place in my heart for having just the best loot. The gist of the setting is that it's post-apocalyptic Scandinavia, but society has restarted and advanced roughly to the point of the industrial revolution and most of the sci-fi junk laying around is, well, junk. So you have things like a version of the Boy Scouts who get merit badges for finding a bent bottle cap or a singed hockey card and the actual loot tables include everything from "laser gun" and "a mostly functional chainsaw" to "half a shopping trolley" and "a third grade Spanish teacher in stasis".
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Loomer posted:Okay, so if I'm getting the rules right... Scoring at least one result of 1 on 1, 2 or 3d10? 10%, 19% and 27% respectively.
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And the chance of getting a major compulsion is 1% on 2 dice and 2.8% on 3, I think. Regardless of what happens here it will probably sell like hotcakes because "OHMIGAD WHITEWOOOFF" to be followed shortly by "THIS NOT MAI MAKARADS!" the same that happened with Requiem.
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Loomer posted:10. Hanna Lahr, 10: Innocent child lost in all the confusion trying to find her mommy (her mommy is a cop so take that Good Samaritan vampires) I... what? Is talking to children illegal in Sweden?
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ZiegeDame posted:I... what? Is talking to children illegal in Sweden?
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It sure is great they did some pretty cool 20th anniversary books in the oWoD to give it a sort of modern send off with some updated rules and then nothing else ever happened with the oWoD ever again.
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The Spartans actually rule and are easily the best thing about this. Just a bunch of big burly gay dudes who aren't gonna let vampires attack people while they're out clubbing.
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"Hello homeless person, is that a crack pipe you have there?" "Uhhh, yeah, why-" *DRAINED* Big Gay Spartans is wonderful, though, especially for their lovely fake spears actually being a bigger threat to vampires than a normal spear. The fact that they all refuse to break character only makes it better.
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