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What type of cells do they use for the current hybrids? Lithium fires are extremely hard to put out and quick charging seems like an easy way to do this.
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SPACE HOMOS posted:What type of cells do they use for the current hybrids? Lithium fires are extremely hard to put out and quick charging seems like an easy way to do this. I think lithium, though I know they used supercaps and flywheels in the past for energy storage.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:10
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iospace posted:The new LMP1 regs are a double edged sword: 1. for the consumer, it's great when that trickles down, 2. the makers may not like them and pull out. It's pretty risky when you have just the two P1 manufacturers in on new regulations. If the ACO solicited no input from manufacturers with a potential interest in coming on board in the next five years, then the new regs may have just as well completely deterred someone new from coming in. Plus, corporate interests may shift and a Le Mans program might all of a sudden not exist anymore. Audi was one of the big players, until suddenly it wasn't. Imagine if that had happened if it was only one of two LMP1 programs. But yeah, there's the other side to it. I remember a lot of worries that the current P1 regulations were ridiculous, but here we are some years later and a hybrid has just crushed the outright Le Mans track record, chicanes be damned. Just goes to show the amazing things that can be achieved when you present engineers with a set of restrictions and basically dare them that they can't go fast within them.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:12
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Cygni posted:2020 P1 regs are out. "Plug in hybrid" system that makes teams run 1km on battery power after each stop, mild cost savings, and bigger cockpits. Pretty big wet fart, might explain why there have been all the rumors about Porsche and Toyota pulling out. The token system-like development restrictions they're introducing are so fundamentally moronic that I can't even believe [producer offstage whispers "ACO!"] OK yeah I can believe it.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:17
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WindyMan posted:It's pretty risky when you have just the two P1 manufacturers in on new regulations. If the ACO solicited no input from manufacturers with a potential interest in coming on board in the next five years, then the new regs may have just as well completely deterred someone new from coming in. Plus, corporate interests may shift and a Le Mans program might all of a sudden not exist anymore. Audi was one of the big players, until suddenly it wasn't. Imagine if that had happened if it was only one of two LMP1 programs. Yeah, it's one thing for F1 to impose stuff like that because they'll always have people competing, another for ACO to do so when you have three different classes. Add in the DPi class for IMSA, making it insanely cheap comparatively for a maker to get involved with prototype racing, and well, LMP1 is on the edge right now more than ever. Though I think DPi needs another year before the ACO will allow them over, if ever.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:20
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These seem pretty bad but the "cars must cross finish line of Le Mans using electric only power" is hokey as poo poo.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:24
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What top speed do you guys think the current P1 cars would hit if they removed the Mulsanne chicanes?
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Jun 16, 2017 17:34
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Jun 16, 2017 17:37
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So for us North Americans when does the race start tomorrow? 9AM Eastern?
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Jun 16, 2017 17:54
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gret posted:So for us North Americans when does the race start tomorrow? 9AM Eastern? Yup! Right when I start work tomorrow 
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Jun 16, 2017 17:57
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wicka posted:What top speed do you guys think the current P1 cars would hit if they removed the Mulsanne chicanes? Air speed or ground speed? There's a chance they may be different.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:22
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iospace posted:Yup! Right when I start work tomorrow lol if you didn't request the day off months in advance also, I tried with all 3 LMP2s in pCARS... and the twitchy-rear end F1 stand-in 
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Jun 16, 2017 18:46
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Kilonum posted:lol if you didn't request the day off months in advance It's one of our busiest weekends of the year, so no, I'm not going to pass up on cash money (win some lose some). I do have next week off though to go see Indy at RA. 
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Jun 16, 2017 19:06
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iospace posted:The new LMP1 regs are a double edged sword: 1. for the consumer, it's great when that trickles down, 2. the makers may not like them and pull out. That's a bit backward, consumer tech trickles into racing these days. All of the tech to enable this on the track has been under development for a while for consumer focused applications. They absolutely made sure Porsche and Toyota already had programs for this before it ever made it in. That doesn't mean business condition changing won't cause them to leave but they already have the capability. 2020 seems about right for commercial deployment given the current state of quick charge tech and regulatory discussion.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:41
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wicka posted:What top speed do you guys think the current P1 cars would hit if they removed the Mulsanne chicanes? Dont they accelerate so fast now that they hit their aerodynamically limited top speed well before the chicanes anyway?
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Jun 16, 2017 20:07
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Yeah if watch Kob's lap you can see that he isn't accelerating very much anymore before he hits the first chicane. I don't know if he is topped out but it is pretty close.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:12
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Theoretically a regular mulsanne would lead to them stripping a lot more downforce off the cars. The little engines they run are only around 500hp though, so even with extremely limited topside downforce, they would probably cap out in the 220mph range i would imagine?
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Jun 16, 2017 20:15
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Cygni posted:Theoretically a regular mulsanne would lead to them stripping a lot more downforce off the cars. The little engines they run are only around 500hp though, so even with extremely limited topside downforce, they would probably cap out in the 220mph range i would imagine? I doubt they'd remove downforce just because the chicanes were gone, those suckers look flat out through the esses and Porsche curves, I bet that requires more downforce than just simply braking for the chicanes.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:17
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Basticle posted:I doubt they'd remove downforce just because the chicanes were gone, those suckers look flat out through the esses and Porsche curves, I bet that requires more downforce than just simply braking for the chicanes. Yeah, but it may be better for laptimes to be going 220 down the entire mulsanne (assuming the chicanes were gone) instead of 211 like they do now, but give a little back through the porsche curves. I dunno though, my Lemans setup experience is limited to the lovely sliders in Forza and lots of yelling.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:28
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Cygni posted:Yeah, but it may be better for laptimes to be going 220 down the entire mulsanne (assuming the chicanes were gone) instead of 211 like they do now, but give a little back through the porsche curves. I dunno though, my Lemans setup experience is limited to the lovely sliders in Forza and lots of yelling. same, OP
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Jun 16, 2017 20:34
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http://www.racer.com/imsa/item/141493-imsa-honda-dpi-planning-continues Honda/Penske DPi looks to be pretty well confirmed with Oreca, apparently under construction at the moment, expected to be done at the end of September. May make an appearance at Petite.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:46
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I really wish PCars had a 1989 Le Mans layout so you could VMax just about any car in the game.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:50
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MazeOfTzeentch posted:I really wish PCars had a 1989 Le Mans layout so you could VMax just about any car in the game. The AC version does.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:54
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Pretty much every game not project cars does.
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Jun 16, 2017 21:12
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Got this on something like my second attempt, can't get near it now  
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Jun 16, 2017 21:12
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iospace posted:I do have next week off though to go see Indy at RA. If you aren't camping, get there early as hell on Sunday. I went last year and camped on the inside of turn 8 and by 9 am Sunday they were parking people in my campsite. The parking along the main straight and Sargento bridge section was already full by that time. It also seemed weird to me that the Mazda support series race cars were louder than the Indy cars.
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Magnaflux posted:If you aren't camping, get there early as hell on Sunday. I'm planning on getting there by like 9 am and staying for the end of the PWC race after.
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Jun 16, 2017 22:16
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Magnaflux posted:If you aren't camping, get there early as hell on Sunday. If the Mazda lites or whatever they're called are running Renesis engines still, there is nothing short of a jet engine that is louder than an uncorked rotary, since they are always experiencing a constant power stroke.
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Jun 16, 2017 22:20
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Magnaflux posted:If you aren't camping, get there early as hell on Sunday. Good to know, this is the first time I've gone to RA and not camped. I was already hoping to get up there by 7 for when the gates open, depending on how much fun the party I'm at the night before is.
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This post is me going to sleep for the last time before 9am EDT Sunday Goodnight, goons.
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Warmup underway! Then its Porsche Cup, then GT3 LeMans cup, then the big one 
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61 Porsches into the Dunlop chicane went about as well as expected
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Cygni posted:Yeah, but it may be better for laptimes to be going 220 down the entire mulsanne (assuming the chicanes were gone) instead of 211 like they do now, but give a little back through the porsche curves. I dunno though, my Lemans setup experience is limited to the lovely sliders in Forza and lots of yelling. It's not aero, it's the engines and hybrids. The hybrid motor usage is capped such that they basically rocket boost the P1s to 190 and then the gasoline engines struggle them to up 205. Kamui's lap I think he topped at 330 kph/roughly 205 mph. If it was the previous Audi R15/Peugeot 908, they might hit higher top speeds in that hypothetical situation.
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Jun 17, 2017 09:45
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Ugh why did this have to be this weekend, I'm going to miss basically all of it.
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Are we doing an IRC or Slack or something for LeMans?
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Dudley posted:Are we doing an IRC or Slack or something for LeMans? We have a discord.
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When does the stream start in the WEC app?
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Yeah I just paid for it and still nothing in my browser on any of the pages. Which one should I be F5ing? Does the Radio Le Mans team control the audio on the WEC feed or will I need to split?
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Shumagorath posted:Yeah I just paid for it and still nothing in my browser on any of the pages. Which one should I be F5ing? Does the Radio Le Mans team control the audio on the WEC feed or will I need to split? No, its seperate now
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Alright but where on the WEC site should I be trying to get the video? Last year I just took the Ford feed which had Radio as their sound.
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