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Al Borland Corp. posted:Then he detained his wife and child in his police car for hours. The I think 4 or 5 year old girl is seen in video consoling the weeping mother. Why isn't the country in riot?
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Radish posted:The best part of people with this attitude is they never voted for Obama. They couldn't even do the minimum for "not racist." I've heard the sentiment seriously from a disturbing number of people in the wild (not internet). All white of course, but many of them young college students in a blue area.  Most of them never voted for Obama, or more likely have never voted at all.
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RasperFat posted:In some hopefully good news, 
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Ralepozozaxe posted:Southern Suicide. We can but hope.
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Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? America bad.
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Dick Trauma posted:Some interesting assets you have there Donald... I don't know why but this makes me laugh so hard I'm crying.
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Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? this is a country where people unironically go "all lives matter".
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Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBOhQamGGuI
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scuz posted:Yanez is a complete joke. The defense leaned heavily on discrediting the witnesses (aka Philando's girlfriend) based on their marijuana use. They got a "self-defense" expert to testify that "if you can see the gun, it's too late." I'm beyond loving pissed. This happened like 10 miles from my house. I thought we were different here in Minnesota, especially after governor Dayton came right out and questioned whether this would have happened if Castile were white. It's infuriating. I'm expecting him to come down on this and will probably be making a phone call to the mansion. I moved to MN from MO last year, just before the shooting, and have come to the conclusion that Minnesota is just North Missouri with a blue paint job. Like, drat, man. It's the same place with the same people and worse beer selection. Sorry to poo poo up the Trump thread. Nothing matters. Everything sucks. You're all doing a tremendous job. Bigly. Did you hear about the electoral college win? Landslide. I really like this thread and it's getting me through this joke of an administration.
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Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? Where does it end, somebody hunts off-season and we riot over pictures of a sad Bambi? *shrugs whitely*
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Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? It's because you see, the police are just one step below the military in terms of slobbering mindless reverence by white people in this country. And that's really all there is to it.
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paperwind posted:It's because you see, the police are just one step below the military in terms of slobbering mindless reverence by white people in this country. And that's really all there is to it. Until they pull them over for speeding, then they are FASCISTS WHO SHOULD BE OUT STOPPING REAL CRIME!
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which garbage state was it where they made cops a protected class despite the fact there are already harsher punishments for committing crimes against cops? oh and also the cops can quit or just take their uniform off and not have to worry about discrimination or whatever the gently caress.
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Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? ....  ...Because the vic was black. His family was black. And it involved the police. You see that SBA post? That's the sergeant's union in the NYPD. That's what you're up against.
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Groovelord Neato posted:which garbage state was it where they made cops a protected class despite the fact there are already harsher punishments for committing crimes against cops? oh and also the cops can quit or just take their uniform off and not have to worry about discrimination or whatever the gently caress. Kentucky made it a hate crime to attack police. Because of course they did.
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I'm not trying to make some snark remark about the US, it's just so heartbreaking I don't even know.
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Paradoxish posted:Kentucky made it a hate crime to attack police. Because of course they did. Louisiana did something similar recently, no?
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Acid Haze posted:It was kind of exasperatingly funny for a little bit.. but for a while now it's just been depressing (to me, personally) since the the republic we're a part of has become a mockery of itself, and while that in a vacuum can be funny, on the other side you also have increasingly alarming things happening across the country and the world. Whereas before people said, for example, that Obama's foreign policy was, "hands off," now it appears we're making fart noises with them. In other words, a stabilizing force in the world and world economy has now become sporadic and random, putting more pressure on everyone else to keep this incredibly complex world economy functioning.
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Paradoxish posted:Kentucky made it a hate crime to attack police. Because of course they did. Which person would receive a harsher sentence? The guy murdering a cop in cold blood, or the guy murdering a soldier in cold blood?
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PlisskensEyePatch posted:Louisiana did something similar recently, no? Looks like LA actually did it first, so I guess that's two states desperate to show the world that their legislatures are irredeemable trash.
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paperwind posted:Which person would receive a harsher sentence? The guy murdering a cop in cold blood, or the guy murdering a soldier in cold blood? cop. it was just a few weeks (months? who can keep track anymore) that some conservative nut stabbed a member of the military to death days before his college graduation (the deceased was black so that's prob why it disappeared so quickly).
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There's been no movement because the suspect is in jail awaiting trial and almost certainly mentally ill (in the actual psychiatric diagnosis sense, not the "OMG he votes Republican" sense.) Nosfereefer posted:Why isn't the country in riot? More realistically, a variety of systemic and professional factors make it really hard to get a unanimous jury verdict against a police officer. They tend to have clean records, previous experience testifying in court, and are sympathetic defendants in non-D&D circles. There was also a lot of room for a lawyer to create reasonable doubt in this case, since the only recording of the events leading up to the shooting was the police car dash camera. Dead Reckoning fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Boon posted:Planning for a 9/11 type event is kind of untenable Gutting the government certainly helps increase the odds of such an attack being successful again if someone tries to pull one off. Especially considering the GOP loving up the government helped allow the first attack to be successful.
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Dead Reckoning posted:There's been no movement because the suspect is in jail awaiting trial and almost certainly mentally ill (in the actual psychiatric diagnosis sense, not the "OMG he votes Republican" sense.) Do you have some sort of alert or filter setup so you can find any thread and jump in immediately the second someone is even mildly critical of the police?
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Chilichimp posted:This case is disgusting. Homemaker fascists and closet white nationalists getting onto juries is starting to piss me off. Yeah. After seeing all these stories of just, what-the-gently caress jury outcomes, if I ever do get called I'm drat well going, no matter how boring it might actually be.
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skylined! posted:if anyone is curious and/or a financial analyst https://www.buzzfeed.com/tariniparti/new-trump-financial-disclosures-show-millions-in-increased?utm_term=.ae27yAEov#.djWWxVENz quote:New Trump Financial Disclosures Show Millions In Increased Income From Mar-A-Lago I have a feeling this is only going to increase the likelihood for subpoenaing fiancials from trump properties for X years and embolden the emoluments lawsuits against him
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https://twitter.com/NoamLevey/status/875766811635191809 What a loving tool.
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Well good news in the sense that a liberal gunman won't have murdered a sitting politician. Also he's still not out of the woods.
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TyroneGoldstein posted:.... gently caress. Like, is there any sort of organization I can donate to?
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Nosfereefer posted:gently caress. Like, is there any sort of organization I can donate to? This isn't something money can fix. This requires a deep upheaval of the underlying fabric of the US's racial tensions and fascistic tendencies.
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It only takes one for a not guilty right? I skipped crim pro.
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Pollyanna posted:This isn't something money can fix. This requires a deep upheaval of the underlying fabric of the US's racial tensions and fascistic tendencies. Yeah, I can understand that. But how can anyone who's not a US citizen try to help?
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Nevvy Z posted:It only takes one for a not guilty right? I skipped crim pro. I think generally speaking it just takes one to hang a jury which can lead to a new trial or the trial just being dropped. It doesn't mean not guilty it just means  I'm not a lawyer though and have no idea. Jury verdicts are generally supposed to be unanimous but if they can't reach a verdict there just isn't one.
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Can a lawyer just pitch the case to a jury that whatever their client did shouldn't be illegal, and therefore they should refuse to convict? Can you do that? I've always wondered if drug cases could be argued that way, given the right jury.
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Dick Trauma posted:Some interesting assets you have there Donald... That has to be money laundering.
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empty whippet box posted:Can a lawyer just pitch the case to a jury that whatever their client did shouldn't be illegal, and therefore they should refuse to convict? Can you do that? I've always wondered if drug cases could be argued that way, given the right jury. That's jury nullification. That very often happened in the context of "no, it's OK to murder black people. Not Guilty."
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I think generally speaking it just takes one to hang a jury which can lead to a new trial or the trial just being dropped. It doesn't mean not guilty it just means I haven't seen in-depth reporting enough yet to say with certainty, but usually if there's a hung jury they report that there was a hung jury, not that the defendant was found not guilty. So I'm assuming at the moment that this means the jury unanimously found him not guilty on all charges. (For what it's worth, I am a lawyer, although not a criminal lawyer.)
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Nosfereefer posted:Yeah, I can understand that. But how can anyone who's not a US citizen try to help? Donate to the ACLU or other similar charitable orgs that help fight this poo poo
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