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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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https://twitter.com/And_Porter/status/875838933711466496 If this is somehow true just wow
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Jun 16, 2017 23:20
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It may be lakers 18 which is crazy valuable
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Jun 16, 2017 23:21
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euphronius posted:It may be lakers 18 which is crazy valuable Magic will trade for PG so the Lakers can finish with the 8th worst pick
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Jun 16, 2017 23:26
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Trade with what ?
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Jun 16, 2017 23:28
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euphronius posted:Trade with what ? I dunno. Neither Magic or Bird seem to be good at their jobs An early look at 2018 has the top picks being Doncic and a slew of bigs. I'd rather have Fultz now than gamble next year
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Jun 16, 2017 23:31
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DeimosRising posted:If I was wrong and Butler+Hayward is happening, I look forward to at least having been right when they win 60 games and knock out the Cavs and my wife never shuts the gently caress up about the goddamn Celtics My wife is a Celtics fan too. 
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Jun 16, 2017 23:32
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I dunno. Neither Magic or Bird seem to be good at their jobs Bird isn't in charge anymore.
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Jun 16, 2017 23:36
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https://twitter.com/crossingbroad/status/875837906862166016
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Jun 16, 2017 23:50
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Jun 16, 2017 23:51
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Is George or Butler available for less and who would you rather have hypothetically, with the Celtics roster as is and the roster + Hayward respectively?
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Jun 16, 2017 23:53
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I dunno. Neither Magic or Bird seem to be good at their jobs I suspect that Ainge has tested the market and learned that no one wants to give him anything valuable for Thomas, Smart, Bradley, Jackson, Rozier or anyone else other than his innumerable future draft picks. He doesn't see how adding a point guard, even a great prospect like Fultz, is going to get him closer to the promised land. What he really needs is a superstar or two and an athletic defensive big.
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Jun 16, 2017 23:53
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https://twitter.com/billsimmons/status/875848950988722177
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Jun 16, 2017 23:55
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DeimosRising posted:Is George or Butler available for less and who would you rather have hypothetically, with the Celtics roster as is and the roster + Hayward respectively? Butler by a mile. Longer contract in a team friendly deal.
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Jun 16, 2017 23:56
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Wait, why? What else is Boston getting?
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Jun 16, 2017 23:57
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Sixers fixin to be a superteam.
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Jun 16, 2017 23:58
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DeimosRising posted:Is George or Butler available for less and who would you rather have hypothetically, with the Celtics roster as is and the roster + Hayward respectively? I'd rather have Butler because he is a better ball handler, and would allow IT to play off ball like Curry does. I could see a Celtics small line up of IT and Butler at guard, Hayward and Jaylen Brown at forward and Horford at center. And they would still have several future top picks to get an athletic big man.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:03
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zoux posted:Sixers fixin to be a superteam. three years from now look out
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Jun 17, 2017 00:04
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Celtics are now somehow getting Jimmy Butler and Blake Griffin in my mindcanon
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Jun 17, 2017 00:06
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They can if they don't sign a fa I think.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:06
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Tae posted:Butler by a mile. Longer contract in a team friendly deal. By 1 year. PG would give them someone who can play the 3 or the 4, which I think the Celtics would need more with Hayward. Either would be a pretty amazing team though.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:07
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I'm hitching myself to the Sixers wagon right now after years of deliberation
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Jun 17, 2017 00:08
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That says to me that he wants to keep the current core intact, add Hayward, and if Lebron doesn't retire then they have their plan B But it's the time of smokescreens and false number 1 pick LAST MINUTE PROSPECT FLIP rumooooOOOOooOOuuuURs
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Jun 17, 2017 00:10
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This seems more than smokescreen Both woj and Lowe reporting it's all but done pending an interview and medicals
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Jun 17, 2017 00:11
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By the way, if anyone still is confused about how the Warriors can possibly keep their core together for the next few years, here is an article that lays it all out well. If you aren't a salary cap nerd, don't bother reading it. http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/06/16/kawakami-lets-plot-out-how-the-warriors-are-set-to-re-sign-durant-curry-iguodala-and-others/
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Jun 17, 2017 00:18
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So wait what's this deal likely gonna be
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Jun 17, 2017 00:20
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Looks like 2017 3 , 2018 lakers for sure Maybe 2018 sixers as well..
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Jun 17, 2017 00:21
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predicto posted:By the way, if anyone still is confused about how the Warriors can possibly keep their core together for the next few years, here is an article that lays it all out well. If you aren't a salary cap nerd, don't bother reading it. "Everyone will take a discount except curry" Hey maybe so but good luck with that
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Jun 17, 2017 00:29
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Next year's draft is very frontcourt heavy, maybe Ainge wanted a shot at a young big. I only know the mock drafts and a couple of shoe games though. And 2019, who loving knows Dropping from 1 to 3 is a big risk this year, I would expect some compensation Perhaps the sixers thought the risk of Fultz/Jackson going 1 and 2 and them being left with having two choose from two wonky shot pgs or Jayson Potatum, I don't think they'd take Isaac because they have so many bigs already, but who knows. The Colangelo era seems to be about keeping the sixers in their place and making sure they stockpile too much elite talent Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 00:29
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Dejan Bimble posted:Next year's draft is very frontcourt heavy, maybe Ainge wanted a shot at a young big. I only know the mock drafts and a couple of shoe games though. And 2019, who loving knows Could easily have two top 5s next year too with this deal. They will likely get whichever big man they like best.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:30
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DeimosRising posted:"Everyone will take a discount except curry" https://sports.yahoo.com/potential-pitfall-warriors-burgeoning-dynasty-140717749.html Marks' analysis doesn't include this inside info about Iguodala's deal, so he's overestimating the luxury tax implications of the next few years by a few million. But it lays things out in much clearer terms with numbers instead of a bunch of extraneous garbage text.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:36
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The only important thing about the Warriors cap situation is that Durant will take about 3 million less which will give the option to keep both Iggy and Livingston. In all likely hood, Livingston will get a big deal somewhere else while Iggy will get 20+ million annually and McCaw will take up the bench minutes. If the tax becomes too much, they have no bad contracts outside of Iggy and trade either Draymond or Klay for cheaper pieces.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:50
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:https://sports.yahoo.com/potential-pitfall-warriors-burgeoning-dynasty-140717749.html lol Ian Clark isn't getting 4 years 35 million from the Warriors. I doubt they re-sign West, Pachulia, or McGee at any of those prices either. Cut 10 million off of Marks' $150 mill projection and the Warriors luxury tax bill goes down by nearly $40 million dollars.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:52
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Warriors opening their own stadium . I don't think the lux tax is an issue. The team is probably worth 3 billion.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:55
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I would guess that they'll backload contracts as much as possible, encourage the guys to take less for the next 2 years in hopes of having more championships than the Heat. And once that happens then the pressure will be intense to go for 6. Barring catastrophic injury, the emergence of Giannis as the best player in NBA history etc Also they're going to have to deal with a Spurs team custom tailored to beat them specifically. Next year they'll be smarter and wear tape and compression everything to prevent injuries euphronius posted:Warriors opening their own stadium . Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 00:56
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If you want to read an actual good analysis of the Warriors cap situation after re-signing Durant, it's this: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/14/golden-state-warriors-offseason-preview-stephen-curry-kevin-durant
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Jun 17, 2017 00:58
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DeimosRising posted:"Everyone will take a discount except curry" No, just Iggy. And Durant for one year.
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Jun 17, 2017 01:00
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Tae posted:If you want to read an actual good analysis of the Warriors cap situation after re-signing Durant, it's this: https://www.si.com/nba/2017/06/14/golden-state-warriors-offseason-preview-stephen-curry-kevin-durant Leroux know his poo poo
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Jun 17, 2017 01:01
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Dejan Bimble posted:I would guess that they'll backload contracts as much as possible, encourage the guys to take less for the next 2 years in hopes of having more championships than the Heat. And once that happens then the pressure will be intense to go for 6. Barring catastrophic injury, the emergence of Giannis as the best player in NBA history etc Klay's contract is up after 2019, and Green's after 2020 and you can expect them to make >$30 mill a year deals then, so I actually think it's more likely that they'd want Iguodala and Livingston's deals to be descending in value. and yeah leroux knows his poo poo
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Jun 17, 2017 01:06
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:https://sports.yahoo.com/potential-pitfall-warriors-burgeoning-dynasty-140717749.html That article is weird. No way are the Warriors keeping Ian Clark at that amount. I mean, the writer is a former Nets front office guy, and the Nets would do it, but the Warriors won't. Iggy might get that much, but if he does, they will let Livingston go.
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Jun 17, 2017 01:06
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predicto posted:No, just Iggy. And Durant for one year. He admits Livingston will be offered more than they can afford but waffles and assumes a can opener of a starting center who will play for the minimum and also a backup and also the rest of the roster. He just doesn't mention them and sticks to the uncontroversial notion than Iguodala can be resigned. Barring "everyone takes a discount" next year they have the big 4, Iggy OR Livingston (they'll choose Iggy), a tax payer exception center, and the remainder of the roster will be their current scrub backups and minimum deal junk (for what this really looks like, see Cleveland's bench and how they rolled over and died in the finals). That's still the finals favorite, but the cap is likely to gently decline or be static going forward so their tax will grow yearly and space will be tighter. Future year exceptions will effectively cost double and resigning Klay will be unlikely. If Iguodala really does want length, 2020 will be difficult. Three max guys will be 105 mil+ and the cap may not be any higher.
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