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Drifter posted:To be fair, Doomsday is the type of thing you HAVE to fight from the front - and she did chop of his hand, not her fualt it grew into a bone sword. She also didn't know what the gently caress was going on beyond some grey gorilla is energy ground-pounding up a city. That would be Superman's job. People see him as a symbol of hope/fear but he is by far the most public of the leauge since Diana litterally ran away for a century, Batman works in the shadows, and the Flash and Aquaman aren't even blips on peoples radar. Superman more or less has to be the face of the league and probably it's voice as well. Wonder Woman is the person who loves to throw down with the big bad and has no problem following others or leading, but when you have the most powerful thing on earth, and the worlds greatest everything a human can do, being the team badass is a pretty sweet gig.
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Great stuff. If there's slow motion in this I didn't spot it, though. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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MrJacobs posted:Diana litterally ran away for a century I wouldnt call it running away. I can forgive someone needing some alone time after their bf blows up, they kill their own brother and have their world veiw shattered in one evening.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Great stuff. Any particular reason you're posting it? Some very brief snippets of noted Kryptonian Jor El in slow motion.  Man I really love everything about Man of Steel's Krypton stuff in every way. I hope SyFy brings their The Expanse game to that Krypton show they announced and not their Assault on Dome 4 game.
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Neo Rasa posted:Some very brief snippets of noted Kryptonian Jor El in slow motion. When? I didn't spot any when I watched it. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Jun 15, 2017 |
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Sir Kodiak posted:When? I didn't spot any when I watched it. That's because it was moving too slow for your non-Kryptonian eyes to follow it.
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Judakel posted:I mean, Marvel certain has gotten comic book films right. They've certainly accurately recreated the 'this is totally important, and will really matter later on only for it to very much not matter later on' part of comics
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I was honestly really surprised how closely this film flowed Man of Steel. There were some goofy rear end lines and innuendo I loved, "And you let this little thing tell you what to do?"  It did go too far into the cutesy at times, but at least it was kept separate from the drama. Unfortunately I was spoiled on Ares, like, right after the film came out, but it did love how it played out. I'm hoping, that similar to Man of Steel, it plays more smoothly on repeat. I was exhausted at the end of Man of Steel in theaters (as I am now, after this) but all viewings afterwards have just flown by. Maybe it's just grueling on the larger than life screen? Good film, will hum cello theme for the next week or so.
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wyoming posted:I was honestly really surprised how closely this film flowed Man of Steel. The only film that felt exhausting to me was the new Mad Max. All the action at all times everywhere sped up at times and whatnot was pretty draining. I don't really recall anything like that in Wonder Woman, much less anything like that for an entire near-film's worth. What did you find so draining about WW? I thought it was pretty easy going.
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Getting spoilt on Ares isn't the worst thing. I almost wish I knew what it would have been so I wouldn't have been so underwhelmed when it happpened.
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Neo Rasa posted:Some very brief snippets of noted Kryptonian Jor El in slow motion. So just to confirm, this was, like, some weird goof to get me to watch the opening of Man of Steel a couple of times? Not that I'm complaining, I love that sequence.
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Two and a half hours is just a lot for a super pants film, at least in theaters, give me that three hour cut at home. Also I loved the Ares reveal, the perfect fit for an evil god, and his goat helm was  Though the shot of the defeated Ares, all buff and naked with the same goofy mustache made me laugh. No the god of war didn't choose to look like a dweeby British guy, the god of war has always been a dweeby British guy.
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wyoming posted:Two and a half hours is just a lot for a super pants film, at least in theaters, give me that three hour cut at home. I like to think that was a reference to the N52 WW run  Something that has been bugged me about the movie is that the nature and/or powers of her bracelets are never elaborated upon. Every other part of her gear gets either an explanation or a handwave about their nature and origins but the bracelets are just there. She's never seen without them and seemingly they grow alongside Diana since they always fit her arms perfectly. There's no explanation on what is the deal with the energy burst nor is ever shown she uses them to deflect things until it happens in London. I mean, if she always could do that, why Antiope simply warned Diana instead of taking the bullet for her?.
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wyoming posted:Two and a half hours is just a lot for a super pants film, at least in theaters, give me that three hour cut at home. Running his hand down the front to make the eye holes.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:I like to think that was a reference to the N52 WW run Zeus did it.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Something that has been bugged me about the movie is that the nature and/or powers of her bracelets are never elaborated upon. Every other part of her gear gets either an explanation or a handwave about their nature and origins but the bracelets are just there. I think only her whip is explained, she thought the sword was the god killer, and I don't remember anything special ever said about her shield or armor. I think they're just mighty Amazonian metal and she can just channel her powers through them? Sort of like Ares keeps making swords. I suppose she doesn't need to use them to deflect bullets, just thinks she does. But yeah, it is oddly uncommented on. MariusLecter posted:Running his hand down the front to make the eye holes. 
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wyoming posted:I think only her whip is explained, she thought the sword was the god killer, and I don't remember anything special ever said about her shield or armor. I think they're just mighty Amazonian metal and she can just channel her powers through them? Sort of like Ares keeps making swords. I suppose she doesn't need to use them to deflect bullets, just thinks she does. But yeah, it is oddly uncommented on. The shield and the armor are handwaved at the start, when Hyppolita says everything in the armory was made by the gods
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So did WW kill Dr. Poison at the end there with the tank? It seems like she did but it was weird since you'd expect her to do the opposite of Ares' taunts. Anyway solid film if a bit long, definitely the best DC production by far at this point. Looking forward to seeing more of Gal kicking rear end in JL.
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Doflamingo posted:So did WW kill Dr. Poison at the end there with the tank? It seems like she did but it was weird since you'd expect her to do the opposite of Ares' taunts. Anyway solid film if a bit long, definitely the best DC production by far at this point. Looking forward to seeing more of Gal kicking rear end in JL. She does not. WW allows Dr. Poison to flee. You're the second person I've read be confused, which kind of surprises me. I thought it was pretty clear.
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I knew she let her live because, I mean, thematically it would make zero sense for her to kill her there. But the scene is poorly blocked, IIRC you see Dr. Poison cowering to the lower right of Wonder Woman and then the next shot is Wonder Woman throwing the tank, which she has held over her head, down and to the right.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I knew she let her live because, I mean, thematically it would make zero sense for her to kill her there. But the scene is poorly blocked, IIRC you see Dr. Poison cowering to the lower right of Wonder Woman and then the next shot is Wonder Woman throwing the tank, which she has held over her head, down and to the right. Exactly. It made no sense in the context of the film but the shot composition / editing certainly hinted at it. I think it was a bit sloppy not to include an additional shot of her getting away sometime during the fight or right after Ares' defeat.
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Maybe I have bad taste in movies but I really enjoyed WW. It's the first movie in a very long time where I actually cared about the characters and what happens to them. I don't know why; maybe it was the fantastic chemistry between Gadot and Pine. I wonder if part of the reason Diana withdrew from the world of man is that she saw that Steve's death was in vain. He gave his life to save London so she could stop "The War to End All Wars" yet 20 years later human kind was at it again and even more violent and evil. Never mind all the other wars, insurgencies, and militarized stand offs that marked the 20th century.
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My problem with Wonder Woman is the thing I'm still thinking about is his how the heck history still happened roughly the same way if Ludendorff and Hindenberg are dead, which is a really lame takeaway.
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DeimosRising posted:My problem with Wonder Woman is the thing I'm still thinking about is his how the heck history still happened roughly the same way if Ludendorff and Hindenberg are dead, which is a really lame takeaway. Well, one of the themes of the movie is that war is a bigger problem than any one man. I hope there's a sequel that does something with Hitler, since he's an even better idea of 'if we'd just stopped him' when he was the symptom of a much bigger problem.
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Snowman_McK posted:Well, one of the themes of the movie is that war is a bigger problem than any one man. Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Maybe she did stop the someone else only to open the path for Hitler's rise. That would certainly demoralize any would be do-gooder.
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Re: Wonder Woman vs Dr PoisonDoflamingo posted:So did WW kill Dr. Poison at the end there with the tank? It seems like she did but it was weird since you'd expect her to do the opposite of Ares' taunts. Anyway solid film if a bit long, definitely the best DC production by far at this point. Looking forward to seeing more of Gal kicking rear end in JL. Schwarzwald posted:She does not. WW allows Dr. Poison to flee. Doflamingo posted:Exactly. It made no sense in the context of the film but the shot composition / editing certainly hinted at it. I think it was a bit sloppy not to include an additional shot of her getting away sometime during the fight or right after Ares' defeat. I paid extra special attention to that scene the second time I saw the movie and what happens is Diana was holding the tank over Dr Poison and Ares was taunting her to destroy Dr Poison, telling her she knows that she deserves it. Diana then has a flashback to the scene where Steve was telling her "I can save today, you can save the world" which lasts for about a minute which must have been pretty annoying for Ares and REALLY stressful for Dr Poison as they both wait patiently for her to have her moment. Diana then says "You're wrong about them", Dr Poison gets up and starts to run away, Diana throws the tank several metres in a direction which must be pretty close to where Dr Poison was and walks towards Ares and says "They're everything you say, and so much more." The tank lands mostly out of frame so you can't see if it landed on anything and you don't see Dr Poison again. As Doflamingo said, the context of Diana and Ares arguing over whether humans deserve their protection makes it pretty clear that Diana decided not to kill Dr Poison her but the actual blocking/composition of the scene made it look like she threw the tank towards her.
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Popping in with a small, stupid question. Where/how did Diana's Amazon outfit change into her Wonder Woman one? I just saw the movie last night and it seemed like the first time we see the WW one is when she comes out of the trench, but I don't remember any mention of it previously.
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hooah posted:Popping in with a small, stupid question. Where/how did Diana's Amazon outfit change into her Wonder Woman one? I just saw the movie last night and it seemed like the first time we see the WW one is when she comes out of the trench, but I don't remember any mention of it previously. She steals the gear and puts it on before meeting Steve and leaving Themyscira.
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hiddenriverninja posted:She steals the gear and puts it on before meeting Steve and leaving Themyscira. Ahh, I didn't realize that the outfit was included; I thought it was just the sword and shield Thanks.
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hooah posted:Popping in with a small, stupid question. Where/how did Diana's Amazon outfit change into her Wonder Woman one? I just saw the movie last night and it seemed like the first time we see the WW one is when she comes out of the trench, but I don't remember any mention of it previously. You get a glimpse of the armor after she picks up the sword/shield/lasso. Also when she meets Steve before they go to the boat, Steve says "nice outfit" when we get a peak at her boots.
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GonSmithe posted:I think it's okay to drop spoiler tags now. Steve Trevor's death is sad. I was surprised how good that relationship was.
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teagone posted:You get a glimpse of the armor after she picks up the sword/shield/lasso. Also when she meets Steve before they go to the boat, Steve says "nice outfit" when we get a peak at her boots. She even stops in front of it with a smile on her face before leaving the armory.
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DeimosRising posted:My problem with Wonder Woman is the thing I'm still thinking about is his how the heck history still happened roughly the same way if Ludendorff and Hindenberg are dead, which is a really lame takeaway. and how her very presence didn't cause a huge international incident. a demi-god brutalizing the german army without any knowledge of the conflict at large. she just trusted some random blonde guy on who to kill. "me good, them bad". maybe i'm a killjoy but I have a big issue imagining how the world just moves on from this super-powered warrior entering the war unexpectedly and slaughtering troops on one side. like yeah the german general was looking to gas people and he's bad, but it turns out that Ares was a big part of her entire belief about the situation, and it turns out he was on the other side! The guy she's in love with was working for the big bad, albeit unknowingly. how does she not feel manipulated or confused? final fight was cool though.
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TheHoosier posted:and how her very presence didn't cause a huge international incident. a demi-god brutalizing the german army without any knowledge of the conflict at large. she just trusted some random blonde guy on who to kill. "me good, them bad". A lot of the set pieces that happened in the film were in remote and/or covert locations. Storming No Man's Land would likely be an unbelievable story that most soldiers on the front would consider a means to inspire, not really an actual thing that happened. Even the town that was liberated was a relatively small village that Etta had trouble finding on a map. [edit] What was the name of town Diana and co liberated again? Was it Veldt? teagone fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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TheHoosier posted:and how her very presence didn't cause a huge international incident. a demi-god brutalizing the german army without any knowledge of the conflict at large. she just trusted some random blonde guy on who to kill. "me good, them bad". maybe i'm a killjoy but I have a big issue imagining how the world just moves on from this super-powered warrior entering the war unexpectedly and slaughtering troops on one side. like yeah the german general was looking to gas people and he's bad, but it turns out that Ares was a big part of her entire belief about the situation, and it turns out he was on the other side! The guy she's in love with was working for the big bad, albeit unknowingly. how does she not feel manipulated or confused? "What did you soldier? Some woman with a shield walked across No Man's Land with nary a wound, liberated a town, threw a tank, then defeated a God? Sounds like you got shell shock. Get yourself to the infirmary, and that's an order."
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teagone posted:[edit] What was the name of town Diana and co liberated again? Was it Veldt? hooah posted:Popping in with a small, stupid question. Where/how did Diana's Amazon outfit change into her Wonder Woman one? I just saw the movie last night and it seemed like the first time we see the WW one is when she comes out of the trench, but I don't remember any mention of it previously. You also see her outfit in the streets on London. She starts to take over her hooded overcoat and Steve saying something like "What are you doing?! You're not wearing anything!" and wraps her back up and takes her to the dress shop where they meet Etta. CelticPredator posted:Steve Trevor's death is sad. I was surprised how good that relationship was.     Mr. Apollo fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Reading this and remember the scene is making me all  "I can save today. You can save the world." Steeeeve!
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