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Jedah posted:Berserk, 2017: it's not fair to compare one of the greatest games of all time to a steaming piece of poo poo
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"Why does no one listen to me?!"
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Jun 15, 2017 20:40
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Solice Kirsk posted:"Why does no one listen to me?!" No one listens to Zathras.
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Jun 15, 2017 22:36
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Josuke Higashikata posted:A crowdfunded Lost Children anime would be good. It might actually be made if it's a movie and not a series, it's short and quite self contained and it's really good. The best part? Someone comes along with a kick-rear end character design, they type `make` (on a real OS), and the previous episodes get rebuilt and rereleased. gently caress this one-time-buy poo poo.
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Jun 16, 2017 00:04
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this is like some sort of stoner humor thing where it's bad on purpose. you have to put serious effort into being so mediocre
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Jun 16, 2017 04:20
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:this is like some sort of stoner humor thing where it's bad on purpose. you have to put serious effort into being so mediocre Tim and Eric's Berserk 2017
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Jun 16, 2017 07:28
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The Band of the Shithawk.
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Jun 16, 2017 07:58
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What if it was... ANGRIER? *Guts in the foreground shoots Griffith who is in the middle ground.* "Who killed Griffith?"
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Jun 16, 2017 08:42
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Rodenthar Drothman posted:The seasonal thread could help out with currently running ones, the chat thread for others ... hell, you could probably ask anywhere. Can't believe you didn't mention March Comes In Like a Lion a bunch of months ago tut tut. Nate RFB posted:Couldn't help but play this when they started talking about "a bonfire of dreams..." I love this choice of a theme song for Guts so much. It would've been so easy to go with some generic metal angry song but instead he captures the searching quality that Guts takes with him in his struggle so goddamn well. Crabtree posted:To be fair, at least the girls have had something of a prep course for The Eclipse in the Troll Arc, the Horse, The Pagan Cult from Conviction, probably some other terrible things I'm forgetting. It probably won't loving matter, because what they'll see, hear and possibly even feel in there IS GOING TO BE FROM CASKA'S PERSPECTIVE so - um - good luck with that. Hey so, an interesting thought I came across while reading the thread was that while there was a lot of sexual violence against men in Berserk, we always approach it from their point of view - whereas when it's against women, it tends to be the outside view, and that this leads to it still feeling exploitative. Depending on how this next chapter goes in...eight? days, we could finally get to have that point of view! Oh...oh no. 
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Jun 16, 2017 14:32
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Cavelcade posted:Can't believe you didn't mention March Comes In Like a Lion a bunch of months ago tut tut. Sacrelidge, yes, but i haven't watched it yet. Also yeah, the next few chapters are going to be ... harsh.
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Jun 16, 2017 14:37
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I felt like maybe....just a little less than half of this episode wasn't animated too terribly, but  when it came to the big showdown on the beach. Goodness gracious.
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Jun 16, 2017 17:58
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Stop watching this bad show you wierdos
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Jun 16, 2017 19:00
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I never want to hear about a Berserk Anime, Movie, Videogame, Pachinko machine or snack tie-ins ever again. I just wanna read the cool manga and listen to Death Metal and be happy forever.
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Jun 16, 2017 19:04
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too bad, bitch
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Jun 16, 2017 20:15
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Law Cheetah posted:too bad, bitch
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Jun 16, 2017 20:37
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Shinjobi posted:I felt like maybe....just a little less than half of this episode wasn't animated too terribly, but a lot of it was dodgy, but they delivered on Guts learning about Hanafubuku and Casca maybe not wanting to be healed so let's just say this was in the upper tier of CGIserk episodes because it got a thing right.
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Jun 16, 2017 20:54
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:I never want to hear about a Berserk Anime, Movie, Videogame, Pachinko machine or snack tie-ins ever again. I just wanna read the cool manga and listen to Death Metal and be happy forever.
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Jun 16, 2017 21:04
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I hope the berserk show runs for 10 seasons.
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Jun 16, 2017 21:20
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Law Cheetah posted:too bad, bitch Auuuugh
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Jun 16, 2017 21:43
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This season isn't going to end where I thought it was. I thought it was gonna end with them walking down the beach after killing those alligators but it's gonna go all the way to that city. Is this season 12 episodes or 24? If it's only 12 then it's gonna end in an awkward place.
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Jun 16, 2017 21:52
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It's gonna end with them stepping on the boat and then no more anime will ever be made.
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Jun 16, 2017 22:40
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i would really prefer that
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Jun 16, 2017 22:44
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You know you want to see their attempt to animate the pirate sea monster as it eats a bunch of Roderick's crew
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Jun 16, 2017 23:24
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Josuke Higashikata posted:it's not fair to compare one of the greatest games of all time to a steaming piece of poo poo Thoughts on Episode 23? Schierke continues to be good and cool, the Puck/Ivalera jokes were funny, and Serpico even got to use air dash. Not bad. But yeah, obviously all the monsters looked hilariously bad, that's to be expected.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:07
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There was one hilariously composited shot with Guts slicing up alligators in the BG and then a a big expanse of ground, and things were sliding all over the place. Other than that it was your typical "this is watchable but I wish it was better" episode of CGBerserk.
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Jun 17, 2017 00:48
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I have figured it out. The animators are pure genius. You see, in Berserk '97 they have this awesome first-episode hook. Drawn into the series you watch and get distracted by the developing character, and then get slammed with this shocking ending and realize that you have to go back and watch it again because you weren't paying enough attention and you must have missed something. They have followed this style almost exactly; sideways, but still. You keep watching hoping it'll get better and what they'll do is, on the very last episode, they'll reveal what is the most awesome, fully detailed version of a Berserk episode comparable to some miracle Miura clone itself. Then they'll announce they've planned this all along and they've decided to go back and rebuild the whole thing, starting with Lost Children. I don't believe any of the last paragraph, of course.
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Jun 17, 2017 03:53
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"We'll fix it in post," CG Berserk 2016/17.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:29
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i really do want to know what the gently caress the deal is with new berserk. people used to have charitable explanations like "the director is new to 3D" but we're way beyond that now. there surely isn't anyone who worked on it who think that they did a good job, right? what's the fucken story here? How did this happen?
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Jun 17, 2017 06:21
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At this point I'm pretty sure somebody's embezzling. I hope someone with behind the scenes knowledge steps forward to talk, because there's potentially some juicy drama happening right now. Otherwise it's honestly just nobody giving a poo poo, which is both a boring and depressing answer. I want the real story to have some blood in it.
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Jun 17, 2017 06:39
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Jedah posted:Thoughts on Episode 23? Schierke continues to be good and cool, the Puck/Ivalera jokes were funny, and Serpico even got to use air dash. Not bad. But yeah, obviously all the monsters looked hilariously bad, that's to be expected. Ctrl+F Hanafubuku and that post is about the summation of it.
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Jun 17, 2017 06:53
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Law Cheetah posted:i really do want to know what the gently caress the deal is with new berserk. people used to have charitable explanations like "the director is new to 3D" but we're way beyond that now. there surely isn't anyone who worked on it who think that they did a good job, right? what's the fucken story here? How did this happen? They were the lowest bidder to make it and are probably being bullwhipped in the office to make TV deadlines. Like, while still mostly looking horrible, the blu-ray of the first season did have a pretty stark difference in some scenes. If they were given extra time and a handful more money it'd probably be at least tolerable instead of the wreck it is.
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Jun 17, 2017 12:36
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Certain parts of their pipeline are impressive. Fire, water, and cloth simulation in a TV series is rare. And there's a lot of compositing with the 2d bits and the sketchy shading they're adding on top of characters in post. But all of that crunches the schedule even more because the animation needs to be completed before those effects can be added. Leading to previs-level animation and rushed compositing.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:15
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Yardbomb posted:They were the lowest bidder to make it and are probably being bullwhipped in the office to make TV deadlines. I linked a video earlier that showed a bunch of examples of how anime shows get touched up for the blu-ray release, but there is so much wrong here I don't know if they can salvage it.
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Jun 17, 2017 15:18
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Yardbomb posted:They were the lowest bidder to make it and are probably being bullwhipped in the office to make TV deadlines. Why is anime production like this? Like I understand the other ways it's different from western shows, what with private funding committees and having to pay stations to air it, but why is there this time crunch? Are the investors so incredibly impatient that they'd rather have an inferior product start to make money as soon as humanly possible, rather than waiting a couple months so everything can be properly finished before it airs? Whole seasons of western cartoons are finished years before they air. According to the commentary, individual episodes of Venture Bros take months to finish. In what way does it make sense to have people kill themselves for a weekly deadline and then sometimes put out an inferior product to advertise that merch, which is how they actually make money?
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Jun 17, 2017 16:36
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Jedah posted:Berserk, 2017:
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Jun 17, 2017 17:23
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Begemot posted:Why is anime production like this? Like I understand the other ways it's different from western shows, what with private funding committees and having to pay stations to air it, but why is there this time crunch? Are the investors so incredibly impatient that they'd rather have an inferior product start to make money as soon as humanly possible, rather than waiting a couple months so everything can be properly finished before it airs?
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Jun 17, 2017 17:32
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Begemot posted:Why is anime production like this? Like I understand the other ways it's different from western shows, what with private funding committees and having to pay stations to air it, but why is there this time crunch? Are the investors so incredibly impatient that they'd rather have an inferior product start to make money as soon as humanly possible, rather than waiting a couple months so everything can be properly finished before it airs? This is a good question; I've seen Shirobako and thus have something of an idea of how it works, and was duly shocked because wow that's ridiculous (and that's a light, optimistic portrayal of it), but even that never got into why the industry's so weird and hosed up. Tangent, anyone who watches an anime (like this one) and wonders "how the gently caress did this happen" should watch Shirobako, because you'll get to see exactly how things like this happen.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:03
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Probably has to do with cash flow, needing to recoup some of the costs through airing and presales on BDs before all the episodes are completed. Western companies that have more freedom with capital don't have this sort of crunch.
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Jun 17, 2017 19:42
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It seems to me that many anime are just a cash-in on currently popular manga. Another way to squeeze a little more money out of the fans. Not that it is all like that, but Berserk 16/17 seems like a good example. Sell production to the lowest bidder, pump out some turds and watch fans desperate for more content buy the poo poo up.
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Jun 17, 2017 23:31
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From what i've heard lots of japanese dont watch anime, but they all read manga. Its probably because of poo poo like this.
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