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8-Bit Scholar posted:I'm gobsmacked, but as I recall there was a mandatory instance in HW as well, wasn't there? Why didn't this happen then? More players, longer instance, PS4 limitations... there's plenty of reasons why it could be more of an issue now than before.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:I'm gobsmacked, but as I recall there was a mandatory instance in HW as well, wasn't there? Why didn't this happen then? because you could start in two different zones
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Jun 17, 2017 04:26
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Evil Fluffy posted:More players, longer instance, PS4 limitations... there's plenty of reasons why it could be more of an issue now than before. It makes this doubly concerning that they do back-to-back instances though. You'd think this would have been caught in testing surely
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Jun 17, 2017 04:31
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8-Bit Scholar posted:It makes this doubly concerning that they do back-to-back instances though. You'd think this would have been caught in testing surely There's nothing to catch. They intentionally reduced the number of players that can enter instances because of the load on the servers, which means they probably just underestimated how many people would be playing.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:33
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I still think Fister was on to something with the 4% exp food promotion luring in new players. My favorite thing about it is that it has +1 piety just as piety got deprecated.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:34
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Fister Roboto posted:Made it past Raubahn, thought things would get better, but nope, there's just a handful of fetch quests and then you get another story battle. It's really astounding how badly they hosed this up. There's a third one not all that long after that. Please look forward to it.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:It makes this doubly concerning that they do back-to-back instances though. You'd think this would have been caught in testing surely Only so much that can be tested and modeled. Nothing beats a live environment, especially with millions of concurrent users. While their structure should support scalable/cloud server capacity, even that can be vulnerable to DDoSes. Either way, "testing" only gets so far.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:42
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What also upsets me is the lack of communication. We've heard nothing for six hours.
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Jun 17, 2017 04:44
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Well if they are artificially restricting access, and it's because there's too many people playing, then it's sheer failure to anticipate the amount of users. Even still, they had the same sorts of problems (to a far lesser degree) with HW. They really should have anticipated slightly better.
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So I've been pretty all right with how things have gone, frankly but now I think my character may be stuck in a hellish limbo wherein I 90k every time I try to login because they're stuck between a story instance (the rdm 50) and reality so uh Ither posted:What also upsets me is the lack of communication. That said, there's still only so much to say. They're looking into it and will try to resolve it, and YoshiP has already done a mea culpa. There's not much more to say and they can't give an ETA to a fix probably because they have no real idea when that might come, nor do they want to tie themselves to fixed times and disappoint people even more (and thus also encourage more traffic spikes).
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Jun 17, 2017 05:00
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Since trying to go into any sort of instanced content ends super poorly, I just gave up for the night. I have other games to play, I don't need to play the one that is currently determined to kick me in the teeth. gonna try early in the morning when hopefully all the more stubborn people have passed out.
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Jun 17, 2017 05:02
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I apologize to the 7 other goons I convinced to do Ramuh Hard mode with newbie bonus. It started a black screen and now it says lost connection to server whenever I get past the login queue. Hope you don't have the same thing!
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Jun 17, 2017 05:02
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At least with Raubahn Savage earlier in the day I could just keep clicking until I won. Now I get booted back to the lobby server any time I try to enter a solo duty. This is kind of dumb.
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Well if they are artificially restricting access, and it's because there's too many people playing, then it's sheer failure to anticipate the amount of users. Even still, they had the same sorts of problems (to a far lesser degree) with HW. They really should have anticipated slightly better. I feel like even a one-day beta test would have figured this out.
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Defiance Industries posted:I feel like even a one-day beta test would have figured this out. We're playing it.
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Jun 17, 2017 05:23
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Exmond posted:I apologize to the 7 other goons I convinced to do Ramuh Hard mode with newbie bonus. It started a black screen and now it says lost connection to server whenever I get past the login queue. Hope you don't have the same thing! fwiw logging into another character seemed to fix this issue for me.
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Jun 17, 2017 05:24
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hobbesmaster posted:We're playing it. And here I thought Japanese studios were supposed to be really sensitive to apparent losses of face and so putting out a clear beta marked as a finished product would embarass them. The more you know.
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Jun 17, 2017 05:26
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Mordiceius posted:I can't wait for you guys to get to the Susano fight. Eh, after Raubahn (Extreme), Susano could essentially be A3S guest starring Ozma Super Extreme and I would still prefer it over my only options being Instance Hell or running PotD until your eyes bleed. And after another set of failures to get past the Bull, only to find out that his loving son is going to run the assist play 30 minutes afterwards, Yoshi-P, I get it. It seems like you do not want me to play your game right now. I'm just going to play Tekken and Fire Emblem if you ever decide to unfuck yourself. MechaX fucked around with this message at 05:30 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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I mean either you have the beta be invite-only or lottery-based in which case all the people who don't get in will throw a shitfit, or you have it be open in which case you get the same thing you do with 'early access'.
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Jun 17, 2017 05:28
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And I thought the Burden of the Father and the Burden of the Son were in Heavensward!
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If they smooth it all out by the 20th I imagine nobody will make too big a deal about it. But I suppose I'm glad I only spent $40 for the expac instead of 60.
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Defiance Industries posted:And here I thought Japanese studios were supposed to be really sensitive to apparent losses of face and so putting out a clear beta marked as a finished product would embarass them. What.
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Farg posted:And I thought the Burden of the Father and the Burden of the Son were in Heavensward! Uuuuuugh.
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Jun 17, 2017 05:31
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May not be killing Garleans in Ala Mhigo, but at least I can pretend I am.
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kirbysuperstar posted:What. Square-Enix has been throwing its overseas subsidiaries (Eidos) under the bus for years for "underperforming" rather than admit that JRPGs don't sell like they used to, everything's about saving face
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Jun 17, 2017 05:32
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Hey only a 360 person queue I think this is a good sign I'll just get all the instances done and then everybody else can deal with it. Brilliant strategy!
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SpaceDrake posted:So I've been pretty all right with how things have gone, frankly Even if they can't say anything new, reiterating that they're still working, even through the night, would be comforting IMO.
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Game might be hosed, but PvP has earned me a swag new healer set
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Farg posted:And I thought the Burden of the Father and the Burden of the Son were in Heavensward! This actually made me smile in this dark time. Thank you.
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vOv posted:I mean either you have the beta be invite-only or lottery-based in which case all the people who don't get in will throw a shitfit, or you have it be open in which case you get the same thing you do with 'early access'. yet a majority of American companies do them just fine.
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Ither posted:Even if they can't say anything new, reiterating that they're still working, even through the night, would be comforting IMO. Something like this perhaps? http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/news/detail/48c587aa8049a3ec3d6ba5970e25fa2b39ff28eb quote:06/16/2017 11:39 PM According to reddit balmung has queues over 4000 players. 
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Defiance Industries posted:I feel like even a one-day beta test would have figured this out. Maybe, but - 1) SE doesn't really do extensive external betas, at least the FFXIV team doesn't. 2) Warlords had a significant beta period and over a month in the pre-expansion preparation patch, and the launch was ghastly for the first few days. I don't disagree that this sucks and that expectations were higher, but this is (to my recollection) the first major miss on estimating server load since ARR launch. I do think they should look into more easily scalable server tech for the next expansion, if players are equally/more engaged with Stormblood as we were in Heavensward (but even then, that remains vulnerable to the aforementioned DDoSes). They have some smart folks, so they're probably already exploring this if they haven't already. Comes down to budget, security, some bureaucratically entrenched rear end in a top hat they need to convince, etc. *edit - The Black Stones posted:They've had 2 launches now to realize their game gets SUPER popular and busy at launch. Now, I'm 100% admitting I don't know if it's possible but if it is, they should add some temporary sever storage to account for that spike and then lower it down to whatever they expected the needed for the normal routine. To be fair, the HW launch was mostly smooth, a few minor snags. But yes, it is possible - Amazon (for example) rents out their servers so it's a matter of the security/budget/etc. concerns I noted above. isk fucked around with this message at 05:59 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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It's still not working for me, but I guess that's something.
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It's not surprising. This happened at 2.0 launch as well where everything was poo poo for a few days but at least when you could login you could actually do poo poo. They've had 2 launches now to realize their game gets SUPER popular and busy at launch. Now, I'm 100% admitting I don't know if it's possible but if it is, they should add some temporary sever storage to account for that spike and then lower it down to whatever they expected the needed for the normal routine. At the very least they should should come out and go "okay things were poo poo, here's a couple free days of game time." At least then people feel they've gotten something for wasted man hours instead of a "sorry go do something else" apology. I get that it's a poo poo situation for S-E but you need to keep your player base happy and I saw nothing but rage online today.
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hobbesmaster posted:
Yeah I've gone through a 4400 queue. Took like 20-30 minutes, but it wasn't really that bad. I spent my time going through reddit finding the salt and asking people stuck at raubhan's hellgate if futa was gay. Some philosophers on balmung, let me tell you.
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Raubahn is the most successful primal in Eorzea's history
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Sinteres posted:I still think Fister was on to something with the 4% exp food promotion luring in new players. My favorite thing about it is that it has +1 piety just as piety got deprecated. You know, the funny thing is you don't even need to buy an irl Honey Bun to get them. You just have to use this AR app on your phone to scan one, or a picture of one if you're being extra tricky.
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Minrad posted:Game might be hosed, but PvP has earned me a swag new healer set The Caster gear is pretty nice this go round, shame the DoW gear is nowhere near that good. Also seriously,  this new gpose poo poo is cool.
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