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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:lmbo i think they've forgotten about that I think they've gone into every man for themselves mode. Might be best to preemptively cancel some passports in case they try to flee across the channel. Wait who am I kidding, they'd be expelled back before long as non residents of the EU. DancingShade fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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namesake posted:Im a little concerned about the number of theories about state actions to hide the total death toll that are appearing. It's desperately sad that we can't tell who is dead and who is missing but I've just seen a Facebook post supposedly quoting an anonymous source suggesting they might start moving the bodies out by night to keep the count low. Combined with the D note rumours which I've just seen a university lecturer ask about I'm worries the real story of negligence, apathy and right-wing ideology causing the deaths starting to get confused by conspiracy theories depressingly enough which gain traction when there's a real knowledge that the state doesn't care. I don't think there was a D-notice or whatever they're called now but I'm certain there's some kind of tacit agreement between the people who run things in this country that the situation has to be stagemanaged somehow. I've never seen a catastrophe like this where the media hasn't even speculated on the number who might be affected, and when you see eye witnesses being talked down by BBC reporters when they say anything about the death toll it begins to look real creepy. Even if there isn't a deliberate, stated conspiracy against the working class in this country there's definitely an unstated one, and it's uncanny staring right at it out in the open like this.
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PST posted:Do you mean this: Apparently one of the Kensington & Chelsea Councillors in charge of housing is Rock Hugo Basil Feilding-Mellen https://twitter.com/rhbfm
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I honestly feel that over the last few days a lot of people seem to have suddenly developed (say it quietly) class consciousness, and that had the powers that be cacking it. The unexpected election result, followed immediately by the fire, has a lot of people I have never seen be political before talking about seizing property from the rich and overthrowing the system. It's wonderful and the government has no idea how to react.
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dispatch_async posted:Rock Hugo Basil Feilding-Mellen Sounds like a man of the people.
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Let's focus on facts, not conspiracy theory
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I think things are going to kick off in the UKMT over the weekend
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Namtab posted:Let's focus on facts, not conspiracy theory Lets also not politicize this very preventable tragedy caused by fuckhead politicians who thought that Mitchell & Webb skit about "kill the poor" was a good idea instead of a joke from a comedy show.
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:I don't think there was a D-notice or whatever they're called now but I'm certain there's some kind of tacit agreement between the people who run things in this country that the situation has to be stagemanaged somehow. I've never seen a catastrophe like this where the media hasn't even speculated on the number who might be affected, and when you see eye witnesses being talked down by BBC reporters when they say anything about the death toll it begins to look real creepy. Even if there isn't a deliberate, stated conspiracy against the working class in this country there's definitely an unstated one, and it's uncanny staring right at it out in the open like this. I would guess they're legitimately concerned about rioting. You don't need a conspiracy, informal or otherwise- pretty much only the radical left benefits from such actions in the short term, and the establishment is anything but. e: the loving protests were outside the BBC last night. The media is absolutely complicit in this for failing to report years and years of dire and horrifyingly accurate warnings about what was going to happen. They're not conspiring - they're afraid. CoolCab fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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I would give almost anything to get up to London for a demo this weekend but my girl is flying to Spain to see her family tomorrow so we're both stuck and it sucks. 
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SteelMentor posted:The ABSOLUTE BOY is laying into May: It's so weird to see the 'ensure this never happens again' type line from a politician and actually believe it. Like I actually believe PM Corbyn would do the work of, let's call it what it is, cartel breaking to stop another tower inferno. Are we still consciously refraining from hope or did that stop with the hung parliament?
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Vitamin P posted:It's so weird to see the 'ensure this never happens again' type line from a politician and actually believe it. Like I actually believe PM Corbyn would do the work of, let's call it what it is, cartel breaking to stop another tower inferno. I've settled on outrage and fury.
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I think we're all waiting for a no confidence vote and another election. Can't see such a slim majority passing anything.
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communism bitch posted:I would give almost anything to get up to London for a demo this weekend but my girl is flying to Spain to see her family tomorrow so we're both stuck and it sucks.  https://twitter.com/ShafikFM/status...D161%23lastpost
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SteelMentor posted:The ABSOLUTE BOY is laying into May: I quite like this Jeremy Corbyn person. I hope he gets lots and lots of votes on the day when the votes are.
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SteelMentor posted:The ABSOLUTE BOY is laying into May: Sticking the boot proper in there, what a lad.
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well if he wasn't a terrorist then why was he suspected of being a terrorist, and uh, then released without charge? stands to reason. Guilty until proven innocent, and even then still probably guilty I mean look at him.
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communism bitch posted:I would give almost anything to get up to London for a demo this weekend but my girl is flying to Spain to see her family tomorrow so we're both stuck and it sucks. Something something Menshevik.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:07
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What's the difference between an inquest and an inquiry? Inquest sounds a bit more accusatory.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:No, this is stunningly fast compared to the fall of both Thatcher and Major. If you count Thatcher's fall as starting with the Poll Tax riots it took six months, but a lot of Tories say that the rot actually set in on Black Monday and Lawson's resignation, 3 years and 18 months respectively before Heseltine put the knife in. The same way Trump is speed-running the Nixon administration and there was a government crisis in Finland that flared up and was sorted out in two days (one party got kicked out of the government on Monday morning, split up on Tuesday afternoon and one half rejoined the government coalition Tuesday evening to secure a majority), the pace of society has grown at a spectacular rate in the past decade or so. I never would've thought in April that by mid-June May has become an utterly hated figure and the UK is on the edge of a left-wing realignment. Reminder that hope is still a mistake. I think this Tory government will limp on through by way of sheer inertia and the fact that Labour or a hypothetical progressive coalition doesn't have the numbers.
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Rarity posted:Sticking the boot proper in there, what a lad. Yeah I think he got his sea legs and is just killin it atm
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Firos posted:What's the difference between an inquest and an inquiry? Inquest sounds a bit more accusatory. I found this article (and the video it's talking about) quite helpful https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/tower-fire-solicitor-urges-residents-to-demand-inquest-not-inquiry/5061588.article
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"The organiser of a protest is a labour voter who lost a family friend in the fire" no wonder he's protesting.
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Vitamin P posted:Are we still consciously refraining from hope or did that stop with the hung parliament?
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Oh dear me posted:If people are pining for Lemon Drizzle, perhaps some words from John Woodcock will help: That's a genuine amazing moment. And it must have been incredibly hard for him to say. So I genuinely salute John Woodcock for admitting he got it wrong & finally being willing to unify the Labour Party while acknowledging he won't agree on everything. Firos posted:What's the difference between an inquest and an inquiry? Inquest sounds a bit more accusatory. An inquiry can be quite easily controlled by the government. Also they have a reputation for dragging on forever and a day, see the Chilcot Inquiry. An inquest is presided over by a coroner who won't be appointed by the government, and gives the bereaved much greater access and ability to cross-examine witnesses for example.
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Jun 17, 2017 11:14
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McKay's original tweet thread starts here as well https://twitter.com/simonmckay/status/875631250576293888
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Josef bugman posted:Personally, and this is solely a personal opinion here, I hope that the Tories get in, get less and less popular, don't quite screw us entirely on Brexit and then Labour comes in at the end to start the rebuilding. Yes, I would vote for a tory minority government and then let it collapse on its own, personally. The bigger a majority that labour can secure the better, and the more the tories gently caress up brexit the better any Labour deal will look. It would be a right shitter if Labour got in and then burned all its goodwill trying to make brexit work.
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Malcolm XML posted:Yeah I think he got his sea legs and is just killin it atm The brazen challenge to May to spend more than just £5million is beautiful.
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https://twitter.com/gameoldgirl/status/876018377994711040 The Telegraph seems to have gone off the deep end in their coverage of Grenfell, convinced it's actually a vehicle for leftist sedition.
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The Tories have caused Brexit entirely on their own and will be starting negotiations next week (which will have the most attention paid to it apart from the final signing). Once that happens Brexit will be theirs even if they collapse the day after; Labour have ample evidence to say they did as best they could given they took over part of the way through the process and it was the Tories which hosed everything up.
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namesake posted:The Tories have caused Brexit entirely on their own and will be starting negotiations next week
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Whitey Snipes posted:The Telegraph seems to have gone off the deep end in their coverage of Grenfell, convinced it's actually a vehicle for leftist sedition. I mean, it might be but what do you expect when the right wing government is the cause of it and fails to do anything about it?
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Rarity posted:The brazen challenge to May to spend more than just £5million is beautiful. I like his polite tone of "oh, well obviously we can all see this isn't enough, so I assume that you must intend to be announcing more later on, what with you clearly not being a pile of gibbering morons, good day." This is a kind of british decorum I can get behind.
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Whitey Snipes posted:
Hooray for leftist sedition!
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Captain Fargle posted:Hooray for leftist sedition! This thread is generating plenty of great usernames lately
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Jun 17, 2017 11:30
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can you imagine David Davis doing these fuckin negotiations despite the fact he didn't think about EHIC and has no costings at all for any aspect of anything because it's too hard for him to do lol why didn't Labour absolutely savage the tories over this
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it took may 8 weeks to go from the most popular PM ever to despised by the entire country lol
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dispatch_async posted:Apparently one of the Kensington & Chelsea Councillors in charge of housing is Rock Hugo Basil Feilding-Mellen https://twitter.com/rhbfm quote:In his spare time, Rock is a local government Councillor. He is now the Deputy Leader of the Royal Borough of Kensington & Chelsea in London, where he is leading on some major regeneration projects. He's also a property developer, bets on links between him and the companies involved?
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