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Slo-Tek posted:I've met the designer a few times, gives an excellent talk at Oshkosh about why aircraft fail. Also tells some pretty funny stories about how the security apparatus reacts when a Northrop aerodynamicist shows up at Oshkosh in a faceted airplane. Any chance that's online somewhere? E: Have some shock diamonds for the new page.    bonus F-15s are loving huge image  EE: Double bonus found this while looking at F-15 pics, I hadn't seen this one before. 
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Platystemon posted:What does it mean that half of those links are purple for me? You get it.
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Platystemon posted:What does it mean that half of those links are purple for me? That's... odd. I batch-uploaded them all to imgur like an hour and a half ago in the course of making the post  Slo-Tek posted:Super nice. Oh man, that thing is exactly what I'm looking for and I doubt I'd ever have found it myself, thanks! Cutlass also definitely merits inclusion--even outside the, uh, performance issues, I've poked around one in person before; that front gear is... prodigious. Also gonna inline-post one of my favorite less-known finds, the Joy JX:  "1935 Joy JX, NC12787 posted:(Ervin & Lyle) Joy Aircraft Co, 6359 N Lombard St, Portland OR. e: ...which reminds me I need to find some pictures of the deltoid pumpkinseed HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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CBJamo posted:Any chance that's online somewhere? Looks like. The talk may have been called 'The Seven Deadly Sins of Aircraft Design" by Barnaby Wainfan. If it isn't the same talk, it is probably still a pretty drat good one. http://www.engin.umich.edu/college/about/cal/events/2016/february/ae585-seminar-seven-deadly-sins-of-aircraft-design
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HookedOnChthonics posted:That's... odd. I batch-uploaded them all to imgur like an hour and a half ago in the course of making the post It was a joke about me having read way too many Wikipedia articles about weird planes. Purple isn’t even the visited link colour on my system.
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HookedOnChthonics posted:So somewhat related to discussion a few pages ago, but I've been building up as large a collection as possible of ugly, oddly-designed, ill-advised and otherwise generally vaguely suspect airplane designs and I think it might be of interest here. The criteria are flexible and subjective but the intention is to be as representative as possible of aircraft of all types and eras that are either ugly (oddly proportioned, bedecked with radar blisters, boxy, etc.), strange (unconventional configuration or propulsion setup, niche specialization), or an interesting failure; or preferably some combination of all of those. Here's an imgur album of all the pictures below for easier scrolling, although they're out of order and unlabeled Tacit Blue was Northrop, Lockeed's competitor for that was Senor Peg, the fat F-117. *edit* Guess I should add some things to the list. Curtis XP-55 Acender Republic XF-84 Thunderscreach Anything that Burt Rutan put his name on. Ardeem fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Edgley Optica OV-1 Mohawk Convair Charger Convair YB-60 Martin Seamaster Saunders-Roe Squirt Convair Sea-Dart (If I'm not mistaken, the Russians also built a jet fighter flying boat...) Convair XC-99 Budd Conestoga Convair Liberator-Liner Lockheed Constitution Slo-Tek fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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Ardeem posted:Tacit Blue was Northrop, Lockeed's competitor for that was Senor Peg, the fat F-117. Platystemon posted:It was a joke about me having read way too many Wikipedia articles about weird planes. whoops  Slo-Tek posted:
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Convair XF-92 F-107 (borderline) These are the only ones I can think of right now that aren't covered.
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Literally every Chyeranovskii aircraft is weird, cause he was obsessed with paraboloid, tailless designs. Plus his designation in the Soviet naming scheme was BICh, and if that don't make you laugh, welp.
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Unreal_One posted:Literally every Chyeranovskii aircraft is weird, cause he was obsessed with paraboloid, tailless designs. Plus his designation in the Soviet naming scheme was BICh, and if that don't make you laugh, welp. Looks fricking cool, though:  BICh-14 Also kind of moved away from paraboloids later, and they still looked fricking cool. A shame they weren't actually built.  vvv More like yawn authority am I right? vvv Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Jun 16, 2017 |
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evil_bunnY posted:If you want yaw authority may i suggest you go gently caress yourself  Great loving album, man.
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Suggestions: Short S.B.3:   Almost entirely for the name: Blackburn Blackburn  Saunders-Roe Princess?  I forget the name, somebody here will know:  An-72? 
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The An-72 is superb and comely and I will fight anyone who says a word against it.
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PT6A posted:The An-72 is superb and comely and I will fight anyone who says a word against it. :high-five:
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Nebakenezzer posted:
It totally looks like the soldiers looking at it are going "...what the..."
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PT6A posted:The An-72 is superb and comely and I will fight anyone who says a word against it. I shot down so many of those things over Crimea in USNF '97 back in the day. They will always have a special place in my weird airplane heart.
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Slo-Tek posted:(If I'm not mistaken, the Russians also built a jet fighter flying boat...) You is correct, Beriev Be-10 "Mallow":    The Be-12 "Seagull". Some people think it ugly, I think it's awesome.  Blackburn B.20: 
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MOAR: The Accountant: Not so weird looking but a failure:   Handley-Page 42:   Il-20:  [Tupolev screaming in horror at its own existence: 
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Nebakenezzer posted:MOAR: Beautiful lines, only someone has drawn cock and balls where the engine was supposed to go. And then the ironic name. Very British. No, this photo is more British. Beautiful thing, one weird trait perhaps but sure, take them home. Stockings off...then wtfffff. MOUSY SECRETARY THAT'S INTO S&M would be a better name than ACCOUNTANT Nebakenezzer posted:Handley-Page 42: Acutally no THIS is more British. Some rickety jalopy more akin to a clothesline in a tempest than any sober attempt at a flying machine, and it has a triumphant, heroic name.
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Ola posted:I never understood how they got images like this. Schlieren photography is cool. And now that you know how it's done,  How would you do it with a full size, full speed T-38?   https://www.nasa.gov/centers/armstrong/features/bosco.html
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Nebakenezzer posted:The Be-12 "Seagull". Some people think it ugly, I think it's awesome. Now I can't help but think about a Communist-era retread of "TaleSpin" with Baloo and his Young Pioneer cadet navigator flying cargo in and out of friendly USSR allied states, constantly vexing (in a child-friendly, non-violent way) the bourgeois Cunninghamskis who bought his means of livelihood out from under him and have turned him into a wage slave. 
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Now I can't help but think about a Communist-era retread of "TaleSpin" with Baloo and his Young Pioneer cadet navigator flying cargo in and out of friendly USSR allied states, constantly vexing (in a child-friendly, non-violent way) the bourgeois Cunninghamskis who bought his means of livelihood out from under him and have turned him into a wage slave. I would pay to watch that version.
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Kebbins posted:I listened to the Penninsula Seniors video on the YF-23 It looks like they have a few on the YF-23. I should just watch all of them, right?
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HookedOnChthonics posted:The list is by no means comprehensive yet and I'm looking to expand it--any and all contributions are welcome. Some more aircraft for your list: Ayres Loadmaster Bouton-Paul Defiant Britten-Norman Trislander Consolidated-Vultee XP-81 Conroy Skymonster Curtiss XF15C Fairey Battle Fisher P-75 Eagle Grumman XF10F Handley-Page Victor (yeah it belongs here and I will fight anyone who claims otherwise) Lavochkin La-200 Ryan FR-1 Fireball Ryan XF2R2 Dark Shark Westland Wyvern (especially the two-seater)
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This pic is great https://twitter.com/WebChasse/status/875735280027922432
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Don't forget the Beriev Be-200, which you can buy today, unless that's something the sanctions cover:
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FuturePastNow posted:Don't forget the Beriev Be-200, which you can buy today, unless that's something the sanctions cover: I can't imagine being a passenger in that thing aft the wings but I bet it's amazing.
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FuturePastNow posted:Don't forget the Beriev Be-200, which you can buy today, unless that's something the sanctions cover: The turbines are Ukrainian-sourced - I'm not sure if they've found a new supplier 
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CBJamo posted:bonus F-15s are loving huge image Modern heavy fighters are drat near the size of WWII heavy bombers -- the two-seat bomber version of the F-15 is ten feet shorter than a B-17, and carries 3x the weight of ordnance. I can't find a photo of a Mudhen and a Fort, but here are the state of the art in fighter-bombers circa 1943 and 1993: 
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Since this came up by coincidence, here's a quick and dirty SU-34s are huge post from the AIRPOWER thread.mlmp08 posted:Apropos of nothing, here is a "SU-34s are big" post
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MrYenko posted:...And it's worth noting that the P-47 was a gently caress OFF HUGE fighter in its day. That;s why I posted the Mudhen and Jug instead of the air superiority fighters:   Yeah the hotrod Mustang was fuckin' tiny. Edit: and WWI fighterw are to the P-51 as the P-51 is to jets. Can't find a pic of a WWI fighter in the same frame as a jet because a Sopwith Camel maxes out at around the stall speed of a drat Spitfire/Mustang. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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MrYenko posted:...And it's worth noting that the P-47 was a gently caress OFF HUGE fighter in its day. Something else that might surprise some of you - the Corsair is basically the same size at the P-47; slightly longer wingspan, slightly shorter and similar weight.
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