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Or its some obvious scheme to try to get people outside of the far right to listen to them, so they can feel like they aren't just screaming in a void of human detritus. Also conservatives loving suck. They're the carpet bagging assholes who sit on their hands in government. No one under 40 calls themselves conservative
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Guavanaut posted:According to this diagram of fine intelligent people I found, Carl is the sane rational centrist: No Amazing Atheist, 0/10
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Also what's with giving Aurouni's plastic skull its own slot? And why is Aurouni not at maximum cringe? His fake skull is downright dignified compared to him.
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business hammocks posted:Also what's with giving Aurouni's plastic skull its own slot? And why is Aurouni not at maximum cringe? His fake skull is downright dignified compared to him. Molyneux outshines him in that regard. I mean, Aurini's beliefs are filtered through his masculine totem persona (the smoking, the drinking, etc.) but he's not full-blown crazy like Molyneux. Also, how dare you drag McCarther into this! And yes, that graphic misspells his name.
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So, to continue making GBS threads on Rubin for a second, Garrett recommended a channel and I subscribed to it and then started to follow the Recommendations and I saw several people replying to this. It's a few months old now but Rubin made a video for PragerU. I don't recall this being talked about at all in the last thread. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiVQ8vrGA_8 What a joke. Here this video is, right alongside the video that says it's a good thing that 1% of the world can exploit the other 99%. But don't worry about that, it's trigger warnings and safe spaces that are the real evils. It's all rather funny, while Rubin and a small handful of others are supposedly pushed to the centre, most people are being pushed farther Left., including me.
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prager u is so drat goofy. i've always loved their "the democrats lost the vietnam war" video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hqYGHZCJwk although i have to admit i was actually suprised by how non lovely this one was. i went into it expecting lost cause revisionism but it was actually a decent video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4 spoilers: yes, without question
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkTz_4RInf0 A lot has been made of how the old YouTube Atheists became the reactionary shitlords we all know and hate but there are a couple from the "old days" who aren't terrible. This guy is actually running for Senate in my state. I dunno if I'll vote for him but he travels the world giving lectures about education and female empowerment and basically doing good works instead of sitting around getting rich off misogyny and racism. So I have nothing but respect for Aron Ra.
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I watched more of that Destiny v. Sargon video and Sargon argues for like ten minutes about Destiny using the word "representation", used in the context of describing percentages of a group of people in some area (in this case, the growing percentage of women in engineering fields). Sargon does not like that word "representation" because he doesn't think the women in this fields actually "represents" women like say, a member of the House of Representative "represents" people in their district. I mean, in the context that Destiny was using it, it was a completely fair and valid use of the word, but Sargon just kept getting triggered every single time he used it. This poo poo is on the "well, Abraham Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN, libtards!" level of useless argumentation.
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Mr Interweb posted:I watched more of that Destiny v. Sargon video and Sargon argues for like ten minutes about Destiny using the word "representation", used in the context of describing percentages of a group of people in some area (in this case, the growing percentage of women in engineering fields). Sargon does not like that word "representation" because he doesn't think the women in this fields actually "represents" women like say, a member of the House of Representative "represents" people in their district. I mean, in the context that Destiny was using it, it was a completely fair and valid use of the word, but Sargon just kept getting triggered every single time he used it. This poo poo is on the "well, Abraham Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN, libtards!" level of useless argumentation. I'm not willing to subject myself to that debate again to confirm a point, but I remember him whinging for ages about how the Government should "do something" to encourage black families to stay together but when Destiny said that the government should intervene to help people who lose out in globalisation, he suddenly became very precious about the government butting in. Sargon isn't a liberal or leftist of any type (let alone """Classical""" liberal), he's a bog standard right-wing small-c conservative reactionary with a bunch of xenophobia thrown in. He's obsessed with bandying about the term "idealogue" to throw at people he doesn't like, then makes a video whining that Corbyn hugged a victim of the recent Grenfall tower fire. I don't know why he insists he's anything other than right-wing, since he exclusively supports right to far-right candidates. He called Trump an old-fashioned "Man of the People" and couldn't unfasten his lips from Trumps cock at all during his campaign because all of Trumps policies (protectionism and anti-globalism but also anti-muslim and immigrant in general) are things he supports, even if he disingenuously tries to claim he's not a supporter. But other populists (Sanders, Corbyn, Hamon in the French election) are either ignored or attacked relentlessly. I imagine he's got a sizeable "brocialist" following which is why he pays lip service to some ostensibly left-wing ideas.
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The honest answer is Sargon is a right populist. Thus he sees himself to the left of the Tories, since they are pretty obviously a "More Money for Me, gently caress You" party to a level we don't see in the US. The Populism -> Meritocracy axis is something different than left-right, and lots of people really fail to recognize this. He's not left, he's just stumping for the useless unskilled white laborer in the UK. As such, he has issues with anyone he feels (regardless of truth) is coming in to take their jobs away, be it internal ones (automation or women in the workforce) or external (trade or immigration). He also appeals to their culture requirements, meaning misogyny, homophobia, islamophobia, etc. to make sure that low-value whites aren't at the bottom of society. Incidentally, it explains why he's so anti-education, since that's one of the first things that's a gate keeper to keeping his class out of power. Pretending to be left is also a standard populist trick to muddy the waters, and Sargon plays that as well as he can given his fairly poor rhetorical skills.
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boner confessor posted:although i have to admit i was actually suprised by how non lovely this one was. i went into it expecting lost cause revisionism but it was actually a decent video I notice that the 'up next' video is a rebuttal to this video so I clicked on there to see the comments and was pleasantly surprised that the majority were shouting the video down and confirming that the civil war was about slavery.
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bessantj posted:I notice that the 'up next' video is a rebuttal to this video so I clicked on there to see the comments and was pleasantly surprised that the majority were shouting the video down and confirming that the civil war was about slavery. In a stopped clock moment, the PragerU video was actually right here. They had a US military historian from West Point on who said in no uncertain terms that the Civil War was about slavery, and rebutted the two most common counter-arguments (states' rights, and how most Southerners didn't own slaves). It's shockingly good for a Prager video, instead of the standard smug white supremacy I see out of the rest of their stuff.
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Sargon is increasingly sounding unhinged - it's like listening to Glenn Beck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWWU1ILvWdQ
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PiCroft posted:Sargon is increasingly sounding unhinged - it's like listening to Glenn Beck Sargon the other day: If you don't have an education in economics, shut up. Sargon now: (to guy who went to the London School of Economics) SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP!!!
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Jun 16, 2017 17:13
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PiCroft posted:Sargon is increasingly sounding unhinged - it's like listening to Glenn Beck He responded to a 4 year old Corbyn tweet too. Its really weird. Dude's been losing his poo poo since Le Pen lost.
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Jun 16, 2017 18:14
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PiCroft posted:I'm not willing to subject myself to that debate again to confirm a point, but I remember him whinging for ages about how the Government should "do something" to encourage black families to stay together but when Destiny said that the government should intervene to help people who lose out in globalisation, he suddenly became very precious about the government butting in. Don't you mean Melenchon?
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Dommolus Magnus posted:Don't you mean Melenchon? Yeah that's the name, I got them mixed up - Although I thought Hamon was even more to the left of Melenchon?
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PiCroft posted:Yeah that's the name, I got them mixed up - Although I thought Hamon was even more to the left of Melenchon?
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Mr Interweb posted:I watched more of that Destiny v. Sargon video and Sargon argues for like ten minutes about Destiny using the word "representation", used in the context of describing percentages of a group of people in some area (in this case, the growing percentage of women in engineering fields). Sargon does not like that word "representation" because he doesn't think the women in this fields actually "represents" women like say, a member of the House of Representative "represents" people in their district. I mean, in the context that Destiny was using it, it was a completely fair and valid use of the word, but Sargon just kept getting triggered every single time he used it. This poo poo is on the "well, Abraham Lincoln was a REPUBLICAN, libtards!" level of useless argumentation. all i've seen that he was in was the destiny vs. jontron vid but i actually liked destiny a good amount. at least for that one (again, never seen another vid of his), it seemed like he was prepared and articulate
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:The No Fap movement is great because it inherently exposes the stupidity and sadness of the the people that preach and practice it. "God I'm pathetic and weak and can accomplish nothing. All I do is crank it. I need to change something in my life to get better." and they decide it was the masturbation that was the core problem with their ennui/loneliness. No Fap is due to the belief/theory the whole fapping releases testosterone and fapping too much releases too much testosterone from your body and makes you "weak"
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:No Fap is due to the belief/theory the whole fapping releases testosterone and fapping too much releases too much testosterone from your body and makes you "weak"
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Guavanaut posted:So it's just a rehash of the old religious view that an ounce of semen is equivalent to sixty ounces of blood and losing semen recreationally is like blood loss and saps your strength? I'm just telling you what I read on 4chan A copy of my UKMT post https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWJDQ31tkY8 lol He was calling for antifa dox a couple of weeks ago
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:No Fap is due to the belief/theory the whole fapping releases testosterone and fapping too much releases too much testosterone from your body and makes you "weak" i'm no scientist but i think that's cum
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:No Fap is due to the belief/theory the whole fapping releases testosterone and fapping too much releases too much testosterone from your body and makes you "weak" This is also what Trump thinks of exercise, iirc
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Then I shall fap TWICE tonight to counter them!
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:No Fap is due to the belief/theory the whole fapping releases testosterone and fapping too much releases too much testosterone from your body and makes you "weak" Really? poo poo, I thought it was like a self-discipline thing. Like, "let's show or bodies who's in control".
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mojo1701a posted:Really? poo poo, I thought it was like a self-discipline thing. Like, "let's show or bodies who's in control". no, discipline is something you show by meticulously combing through scat porn and matching the grainy jpeg you have of richard spencer's attacker to the faces of various men consuming excrement
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Wouldn't you just have a wet dream? I thought your body just kept producing semen what ever you did?
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Yeah, your body does, but it doesn't release automatically, it gets... Recycled? Like any bodily secretion that isn't automatically expelled, e.g. saliva, mucus, etc.
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business hammocks posted:Contra's the most rigorous and thoughtful social critic on youtube, though after that Mel Brooks video I'd say Lindsay Ellis is very close. i LOVE gamergate. its really loving good. i love it when the gamers are on the gate Dongicus fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Dec 2, 2017 |
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mojo1701a posted:Really? poo poo, I thought it was like a self-discipline thing. Like, "let's show or bodies who's in control". It might be partly that but no they actually think that not jacking off makes you powerful through some not particularly defined mechanism that might be magical.
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So I've been watching more of that Destiny v. Sargon vid (it's a very long video), and although I like Destiny, I do have to somewhat question his beliefs of the economic benefits of mass immigration. He knows that doing so will increase the labor supply, which will in turn lower wages, but seems to think it's okay because we'll be able to get cheaper products and goods. This seems like a common argument I've seen in libertarian circles. edit: oh dear, Destiny's supporting the idea of sweatshops  landgrabber posted:all i've seen that he was in was the destiny vs. jontron vid but i actually liked destiny a good amount. at least for that one (again, never seen another vid of his), it seemed like he was prepared and articulate The jontron "debate" was great. Destiny tried his best to give him MULTIPLE chances to clarify his position to make him seem not racist, and somehow it kept getting worse each time. Mr Interweb fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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that's destiny's greatest weakness in his debates, he made the same argument with jontron. products would still be cheap at a livable wage if the owner class wouldn't charge you out the nose for them (apple makes something like 600 dollars in profit on every iphone but their retail employees or foxconn slaves don't make wages that reflect that).
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Mr Interweb posted:So I've been watching more of that Destiny v. Sargon vid (it's a very long video), and although I like Destiny, I do have to somewhat question his beliefs of the economic benefits of mass immigration. He knows that doing so will increase the labor supply, which will in turn lower wages, but seems to think it's okay because we'll be able to get cheaper products and goods. This seems like a common argument I've seen in libertarian circles. there is a good chapo episode out right now about the alt right and it points out how terrible liberals are at fighting/debating/interviewing the alt right. part of the reason is that kinda poo poo. jontron is easy because he is an idiot who parrots poo poo whispered in his ear.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:there is a good chapo episode out right now about the alt right and it points out how terrible liberals are at fighting/debating/interviewing the alt right. part of the reason is that kinda poo poo. jontron is easy because he is an idiot who parrots poo poo whispered in his ear. Do you remember the title or episode number? I got Angela Nagel's book based on the episode with her, and it's very good.
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at least when i've heard them bring up debating gop/conservatives/alt-right folks they say it's a useless exercise because the rightists won't argue properly. even if you "own" them or catch them being hypocrites or point out flaws in their logic it doesn't matter to them. in the west wing episode they talk about this fantasy that liberals have of destroying some gop chud's argument and then he'll magically realize he's wrong and come to the light. they give the real world example of obama putting up a moderate for the supreme court to make mcconnell et al look bad for blocking him not realizing these people are evil shitheads with no morals. it's why they always mock people pointing out logical fallacies (felix's twitter username is even @ByYourLogic) because these troglodytes' entire worldview is structured upon falsehoods and fallacies - pointing that out isn't gonna suddenly make them not morons. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Groovelord Neato posted:at least when i've heard them bring up debating gop/conservatives/alt-right folks is they say it's a useless exercise because they won't argue properly. even if you "own" them or catch them being hypocrites or point out flaws in their logic it doesn't matter to them. in the west wing episode they talk about this fantasy that liberals have of destroying some gop chud's argument and then he'll magically realize he's wrong and come to the light. they give the real world example of obama putting up a moderate for the supreme court to make mcconnell et al look bad for blocking him not realizing these people are evil shitheads with no morals. "Never believe that anti‐Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti‐Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side." ~ Jean-Paul Sartre's 'Anti-Semite and Jew' It's clear how fruitless it is debating with these people when you realize the same arguments used against feminism today are identical to the arguments used 100 years ago. That the arguments against transgenderism are identical to the arguments once used (and still used, sadly) against homosexuality. If these cavepeople haven't evolved with the rest of society, just ignore them.
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i would say destiny's debates aren't for making johnathon tronathon or sargon not be mouth breathing poo poo eaters but more for young nerds watching this poo poo going hey these guys got destroyed by pretty simple arguments i don't wanna be dumbasses like them.
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Groovelord Neato posted:i would say destiny's debates aren't for making johnathon tronathon or sargon not be mouth breathing poo poo eaters but more for young nerds watching this poo poo going hey these guys got destroyed by pretty simple arguments i don't wanna be dumbasses like them. It's the same reason why people here encourage a good faith argument even if the other person is obviously trolling or an idiot: you can't convince someone directly they're an idiot, but a lurker with potential sympathies has no ego to guard and is more receptive to arguments.
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