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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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forkboy84 posted:How? Dealing is "sort of" a job
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forkboy84 posted:How? Take home is about 1000 from my main job, plus about 130 pcm from my other. 625 all bills house 150-200 pcm on food of all sorts 100 (ish) on Charities, phone and gym. I walk to work, go out for free stuff and my mum sends me a bit of pocket money every couple of months due to my brother still living at home. I survive and I am looking for work.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:08
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Josef bugman posted:I am on minimum wage and I just about survive in London. Oh right now I'd kill for a job. Hmmm, maybe I could be an assassin.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:12
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I've got a shed, it's got electricity and the wifi signal isn't too bad out there. Yours for 300 quid a week (access to toilet extra) wow look at posho overhere who can afford to have a shed with electricity in london
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Jun 17, 2017 21:13
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Jose posted:wow look at posho overhere who can afford to have a shed with electricity in london Other option: he old
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Jun 17, 2017 21:18
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Josef bugman posted:150-200 pcm on food of all sorts drat, I feel like a wasteful gently caress. I'm terrible at budgeting myself on food. Hell I must spend £50/m on fruit alone communism bitch posted:Sounds reasonable for a shed in london. London is pretty crazy and all but you can definitely get a real flat for that amount. Also, today was a really nice day! 30 degrees and sunny all around. Was great to walk around. Pochoclo fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 21:18
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Regarde Aduck posted:I think the government *wants* people to start suffering disaster fatigue. Which is why the number is being kept artificially low and vague. But then again I do love a good conspiracy theory. It's not even fire
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Jun 17, 2017 21:20
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Goddam, but yeah, there should be a list of building residents somewhere, and a corresponding list of people who have checked in requesting aid. If they are on list A but not list B . . . That is why the D-notice rumour is so attractive. There is a very obvious and very suspicious opacity to something which is quite literally a matter of record. Simple subtraction should be able to give us an almost exact count, at least of the missing, and yet nothing. From the very beginning there has been no word of the estimated total dead, and I've yet to see the BBC talk about how many people actually lived in there on the news. Why are they not telling us how many people survived? That is also a staple of disasters, even if they cannot report the dead they tell you how many got out. Did they all slink away into the sewers to live as volunteer Morlocks in this Big Society of ours? It is extremely abnormal and the obvious conclusion (the only one I can really come to), correct or not, is that the number believed dead is large enough to bring down the government through civil disorder, and so it is being deliberately hidden for as long as they can.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:20
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Lord_Adonis posted:Well yes, of course. I am not disputing the heat of the sun. Rather, I am just pointing out that people seem to be confusing the human organism's tolerance to solar electromagnetism and simple temperature, with the implication that different ratios of melanin sub-types in the skin afford increased protection from both, as opposed to just the former. shut up nerd
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Jun 17, 2017 21:21
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Mate sent me this, thought it's relevant.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:21
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I lived in Brixton for several years during my youth, and also spent 6 months dossing on the floor of someone's affordable housing flat in st James' park (while being watched 24/7 through binoculars by security guards in all the posh flats). The actual day to day living costs of living in London are cheap, the transport is amazing and nothing compared to the rest of the country, food and other amenities are the same as everywhere else and it's free to do stuff like go to galleries and museums. What's hosed up is the rents. You know it's cheaper to live in youth hostels anywhere in London than it is to get a bedsit, even if you get a private room, and that's without factoring in council tax and gas/electrics/water rates. Your stuff is safe as they are like good hotels now, and there is no time limit on how long you can stay in them. For some reason only people here on travel and work visas have managed to figure that out.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:21
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bessantj posted:Oh right now I'd kill for a job. It solves two of your problems! I hugely sympathise with all you jobseekers, it well and truly sucks, especially if you get an rear end in a top hat at the jobcenter. That said if you ever get a job interview with one of those door-to-door pyramid places RUN LIKE HELL.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:22
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spectralent posted:It solves two of your problems! I applied for a job that was on the Universal Jobmatch site and that turned out to be a pyramid scheme. The woman who placed it called me and tried to sell me on it so I said I had a job and was working 40 hours a week and had no free time but she kept on until I told her, politely, to sod off. Unbelievable they have that fraud poo poo on their site.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:25
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learnincurve posted:I lived in Brixton for several years during my youth, and also spent 6 months dossing on the floor of someone's affordable housing flat in st James' park (while being watched 24/7 through binoculars by security guards in all the posh flats). The actual day to day living costs of living in London are cheap, the transport is amazing and nothing compared to the rest of the country, food and other amenities are the same as everywhere else and it's free to do stuff like go to galleries and museums. What's hosed up is the rents. I can see that being OK if you can get a separate room. I had a friend who lived in a communal room of a youth hostel for over a year. He didn't mind it but I'd have lost my mind after a month.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:27
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I didn't realise Michael Gove is actually a woman???
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Jun 17, 2017 21:29
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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bessantj posted:I applied for a job that was on the Universal Jobmatch site and that turned out to be a pyramid scheme. The woman who placed it called me and tried to sell me on it so I said I had a job and was working 40 hours a week and had no free time but she kept on until I told her, politely, to sod off. Unbelievable they have that fraud poo poo on their site. UJ is a barely-functional colossal waste of time that should self-evidently demonstrate that the point is entirely to frustrate and humiliate poor people rather than actually find people work. A lot of supervisors demand you use it even though it breaks constantly, logs you out at random, contains enormous numbers of duplicate listings (barely any of which aren't just portals to different websites entirely), is incapable of remembering and referencing your location, and has multiple outright scams on it. Oh, but there's a little thing that tells you how to spot scam job posts so you can handle it 
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Jun 17, 2017 21:33
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How did that entire system not get nuked by wcry a few weeks back? There is no law. There is no justice.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:35
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I just feel bad for anyone admitting they're a Tory for the first time now, it's like they just announced they'd put loads of money in the White Star Line after seeing how incredibly well designed the Titanic is.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:37
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From what I remember during my luckily brief time with Universal Jobmatch, there are thousands of jobs with the location "NATIONWIDE" that show up for basically every location. Then in the ad, they list like.. three place. London, Edinburgh, Bristol, done. Half of them do at least, the other half are "EARN £££'s FROM HOME" level scam bollocks. But either way, they made searching by postcode basically useless.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:37
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communism bitch posted:How did that entire system not get nuked by wcry a few weeks back? because the government actually cares about making sure poor people are inconvenienced
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Jun 17, 2017 21:37
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learnincurve posted:I lived in Brixton for several years during my youth, and also spent 6 months dossing on the floor of someone's affordable housing flat in st James' park (while being watched 24/7 through binoculars by security guards in all the posh flats). The actual day to day living costs of living in London are cheap, the transport is amazing and nothing compared to the rest of the country, food and other amenities are the same as everywhere else and it's free to do stuff like go to galleries and museums. What's hosed up is the rents. This is only true if you rarely eat out and never drink.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:37
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Up until the day I got a new job offer it continued to recommend me stuff like senior surgical postings in places like bristol and manchester (and periodically overseas entirely), despite the fact I was a bioscience graduate living in the southeast.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:38
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Josef bugman posted:Take home is about 1000 from my main job, plus about 130 pcm from my other. That's some tight budgeting. I'm far too frivolous. I have stacks of books I insist I will read one day but that day probably isn't in the next year or two and yet I seem to always end up with more. How many people do you live with for £625/month all bills included? Because that seems quite alright for London, but a quick search shows that for £650 you could live in a building with 5 other people. Which certainly isn't terrible but at the same time I'm not sure if I could actually handle it. Though I s'pose I'd just spend all my time in my room so not the end of the world. And that's Kensal Green area, which doesn't seem terrible as far as London locations go. Still. Point is, even if you're living with 4 or 5 other folk that's impressive reign on your budget, I'm impressed & jealous. bessantj posted:I applied for a job that was on the Universal Jobmatch site and that turned out to be a pyramid scheme. The woman who placed it called me and tried to sell me on it so I said I had a job and was working 40 hours a week and had no free time but she kept on until I told her, politely, to sod off. Unbelievable they have that fraud poo poo on their site. And then you explain why you didn't apply for it to the JobCentre & they explain that actually that's not good enough & if you do it again they'll probably have to sanction you. Which is loving hilarious. They literally don't care if you are applying for realistic jobs, they just want you saying you've applied for them. It's such a stupid system. You could intentionally flub every interview you get, you could probably get away with just looking on their website & saying you applied for jobs without actually doing it and they'd not care so long as you just told them you'd applied. New Labour might have done some good, but loving hell they did a number on removing a human approach to benefits for the unemployed and sick and disabled. Hard to ever forgive them for that. Boot the PPE oval office responsible in the balls. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jun 17, 2017 |
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Jun 17, 2017 21:39
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Make sure you all stay hydrated pals, don't be an idiot like me and fail to drink enough water then wonder why I'm feeling funny and getting a headache.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:43
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forkboy84 posted:That's some tight budgeting. I'm far too frivolous. I have stacks of books I insist I will read one day but that day probably isn't in the next year or two and yet I seem to always end up with more. "Wow, this dude knows how to straddle the poverty line!"
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forkboy84 posted:That's some tight budgeting. I'm far too frivolous. I have stacks of books I insist I will read one day but that day probably isn't in the next year or two and yet I seem to always end up with more. Me, my cousin and 3 others. It's not too bad really, the budget just gets saved up from holidays and birthdays. Sometimes I'll go out and have a meal (about once a week), but other than that it takes a lot of work. Its a pain in the rear end more than anything as I can't save up any money. We do have a garden. I'm going to be growing some herbs over the next few months so that I don't have to buy them.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:44
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£625 is probably about how much my mortgage + bills is and i live by myself in a 3 bed flat lol
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Jun 17, 2017 21:44
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forkboy84 posted:And then you explain why you didn't apply for it to the JobCentre & they explain that actually that's not good enough & if you do it again they'll probably have to sanction you. Which is loving hilarious. They literally don't care if you are applying for realistic jobs, they just want you saying you've applied for them. It's such a stupid system. You could intentionally flub every interview you get, you could probably get away with just looking on their website & saying you applied for jobs without actually doing it and they'd not care so long as you just told them you'd applied. New Labour might have done some good, but loving hell they did a number on removing a human approach to benefits for the unemployed and sick and disabled. Hard to ever forgive them for that. Boot the PPE oval office responsible in the balls. wait until you're waiting for pre-employment checks to clear and some chucklefuck says "well that's no reason to stop looking!"
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Jun 17, 2017 21:45
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So, thats a tory hatchling? it looks almost like a normal person, I suppose the scales and teeth are photoshopped or something...
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Jun 17, 2017 21:46
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unwantedplatypus posted:"Wow, this dude knows how to straddle the poverty line!" Life in 21st century Britain as a millennial, innit? poo poo is bleak for a lot of us, I'm just impressed someone can live in the same situation I was in for several years and is clearly much better at it than me. Julio Cruz posted:This is only true if you rarely eat out and never drink. I mean, eating out is relatively expensive everywhere and not something you'd do on a tight budget. Obviously it's much worse in London, but it's not something I can afford to do very often in Inverness either.
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spectralent posted:UJ is a barely-functional colossal waste of time that should self-evidently demonstrate that the point is entirely to frustrate and humiliate poor people rather than actually find people work. A lot of supervisors demand you use it even though it breaks constantly, logs you out at random, contains enormous numbers of duplicate listings (barely any of which aren't just portals to different websites entirely), is incapable of remembering and referencing your location, and has multiple outright scams on it. Oh, but there's a little thing that tells you how to spot scam job posts so you can handle it I don't really have a problem with it because I don't use it a lot. I don't really get what they want me to do they say I have to be actively involved in looking for employment for 35 hours a week but I just apply for a bunch of jobs and they seem happy enough with that. spectralent posted:Up until the day I got a new job offer it continued to recommend me stuff like senior surgical postings in places like bristol and manchester (and periodically overseas entirely), despite the fact I was a bioscience graduate living in the southeast. I have had some strange recommendations like dental nurse and engineer for BAE despite the fact I'm barely qualified to be human.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:47
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spectralent posted:wait until you're waiting for pre-employment checks to clear and some chucklefuck says "well that's no reason to stop looking!" Hah, been there. Told them to stuff it, that I had no intention of continuing to search & would just tell them to shove it. But I was in the "fortunate" position of having moved back in with my parents so my outgoings were low enough that I could survive a month on previous JSA cash. I really loving hate our welfare system. It's just so unnecessarily cruel and it was cruel before all the poverty porn style programs on Channel 5 about scroungers.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:49
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forkboy84 posted:And then you explain why you didn't apply for it to the JobCentre & they explain that actually that's not good enough & if you do it again they'll probably have to sanction you. Which is loving hilarious. They literally don't care if you are applying for realistic jobs, they just want you saying you've applied for them. It's such a stupid system. You could intentionally flub every interview you get, you could probably get away with just looking on their website & saying you applied for jobs without actually doing it and they'd not care so long as you just told them you'd applied. New Labour might have done some good, but loving hell they did a number on removing a human approach to benefits for the unemployed and sick and disabled. Hard to ever forgive them for that. Boot the PPE oval office responsible in the balls. Yeah at the moment I've applied for stuff that I am so unqualified for it's insane because I want to make sure they won't stop anything. It doesn't help that I have an unspent conviction so it makes it all the harder to get a job.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:56
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Thanks Ants posted:Is the toilet charged per visit or can we work out a subscription arrangement? By volume. Jose posted:wow look at posho overhere who can afford to have a shed with electricity in london I not only have a shed I have a garden to put it in, and live less than a quarter of a mile from Canary Wharf. I'll supply my own blindfold to save the People's Commissariat the money.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:58
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Jose posted:£625 is probably about how much my mortgage + bills is and i live by myself in a 3 bed flat lol i guess nobody wants to live there, or with you self-owned by economics i guess
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Jun 17, 2017 21:59
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Josef bugman posted:Take home is about 1000 from my main job, plus about 130 pcm from my other. No offense, but ditch paying to the gym and charities until you can get something better or some savings. Sure its good to give to charities, but one accident or unforseen thing and you could be hosed.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:00
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Jose posted:£625 is probably about how much my mortgage + bills is and i live by myself in a 3 bed flat lol Pfft, 300 quid for council tax, service charge, all utilities and even the broadband and telly, and four bedrooms, in a place that people actually want to live in. Inherited wealth is awesome but, like Tony Benn, I feel like it's only actually managed to make me leftier.
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Jun 17, 2017 22:02
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spectralent posted:It solves two of your problems! One of the times I was out of work, I found one of those on the DWP's own jobsearch website. Or rather, about fifty ads, all for the same job, written in such a way as to show up on pretty much any keyword search (ie, looking for people with experience in customer service, retail, cleaning, bar work, security, you name it). I fired off an application (because hey, counts as an action for the weekly jobseeker's report), and got a reply by phone suspiciously quickly, from the head honcho herself. I agreed, because hey, an interview would probably get the advisor off my back for the week and it got me out of the house. Plus, there was a chance it could have been legit (no there wasn't). So I show up to a very clearly temporary rented office in a nice building, asking the receptionist on the way in if it was a pyramid scheme (answer being "I dunno, they just rent the place by the hour"). It's near the back of the third floor with no windows, but they've got their own receptionist, which is a nice touch. Absolutely no signs of permanent habitation anywhere, not so much as a photo on the desks. I go in for the interview, and if I wasn't already paranoid alarm bells would have started ringing when she started acting like I already had the job. The few questions I answered brutally honestly (all my experience is straight up customer service, I couldn't sell water in the desert), and she started selling me on the wonders of cold selling... something in shopping centres and lovely retail parks as far away as glorious Cessnock. I pretty much had to interrupt to ask what the wage was. When she said (surprise, surprise) it was 100% commission based, I  So that's my  experience of the commission only scam industry. The saddest thing is that particular pyramid scheme doesn't kick in proper until you reach management level. They're encouraged to set up their own branched off, and do a bunch of shady poo poo like front up ten grand of their own money to set up the company accounts. I'll try to find the sources I did when I looked into it (because again, I was unemployed, bored and genuinely had nothing better to do) if people are interested.
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UrbicaMortis posted:I can see that being OK if you can get a separate room. I had a friend who lived in a communal room of a youth hostel for over a year. He didn't mind it but I'd have lost my mind after a month. Having spent 18 months living in hostel dorms it's an absolute loving nightmare. The combination of losing your privacy and the vast majority of your possessions is so dehumanising.
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