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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Mister Adequate posted:

Make sure you all stay hydrated pals, don't be an idiot like me and fail to drink enough water then wonder why I'm feeling funny and getting a headache.

Im hiding in bed with a headache right now after walking round in the sun all afternoon without a drink.

My girl is super loving mad at me because she wanted us to have a nice evening together but now im too sick lol

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Pfft, 300 quid for council tax, service charge, all utilities and even the broadband and telly, and four bedrooms, in a place that people actually want to live in.

Inherited wealth is awesome but, like Tony Benn, I feel like it's only actually managed to make me leftier.

i live in probably the cheapest city in england that is also a really nice city which helps. i'd have loved to have kept living alone in the massive house i grew up in but other family had a bigger need for it what with having a bunch of kids

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

communism bitch posted:

Im hiding in bed with a headache right now after walking round in the sun all afternoon without a drink.

My girl is super loving mad at me because she wanted us to have a nice evening together but now im too sick lol

drink some water you idiot

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
I have a big bottle of water here now of course and also emergency bbq pringles

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

This avatar made possible by a gift from the Religionthread Posters Relief Fund

happyhippy posted:

No offense, but ditch paying to the gym and charities until you can get something better or some savings.
Sure its good to give to charities, but one accident or unforseen thing and you could be hosed.

I do have a fair amount set aside in savings, from when I was living at home/money from grandparents and I have a line to my folks in case something disastrous happens. I have resources to call on if necessary.

But thanks for the concern, others need the money more than I do though.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Pfft, 300 quid for council tax, service charge, all utilities and even the broadband and telly, and four bedrooms, in a place that people actually want to live in.

Inherited wealth is awesome but, like Tony Benn, I feel like it's only actually managed to make me leftier.

You're alright, even if you're a posho. (I am also a posho, but live like a poor because I make terrible life choices)


Attention thread weebs: Thanks for recommending my hero academia a while a go, I'm having fun with it.

communism bitch posted:

I have a big bottle of water here now of course and also emergency bbq pringles

woah woah woah, not monster munch? You changed, man.

Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
Social housing is a terrible idea. Every once in a while some bright young feller will proclaim getting rid of rent controls will solve Sweden's housing problems and they never have even one example of where that idea has worked out

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

communism bitch posted:

I have a big bottle of water here now of course and also emergency bbq pringles

drink some water when walking you idiot

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

communism bitch posted:

Im hiding in bed with a headache right now after walking round in the sun all afternoon without a drink.

My girl is super loving mad at me because she wanted us to have a nice evening together but now im too sick lol

HArden the gently caress up ober

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Miftan posted:


Attention thread weebs: Thanks for recommending my hero academia a while a go, I'm having fun with it.



read national quiz imo

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

i live in probably the cheapest city in england that is also a really nice city which helps. i'd have loved to have kept living alone in the massive house i grew up in but other family had a bigger need for it what with having a bunch of kids

Yeah it actually bothers me quite a bit, this is the house I grew up in and I really don't want to move away - my neighbours are cool, the area's nice enough, and I might actually have the closest proper garden to Canary Wharf, but at the same time I feel like I'm sort of squatting here because it should be a family home - but no family I'd be happy with moving in could possibly afford it if I sold it on, it would just go to a BtR shitlord.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Jose posted:

drink some water when walking you idiot

Dont call me an idiot :saddowns:

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



spectralent posted:

It solves two of your problems!

I hugely sympathise with all you jobseekers, it well and truly sucks, especially if you get an rear end in a top hat at the jobcenter. That said if you ever get a job interview with one of those door-to-door pyramid places RUN LIKE HELL.

Agreed. Awful, awful cons that prey on the weak and still, both staff and marks.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Jose posted:

drink some water when walking you idiot

Lubrication is more important than hydration when wanking

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

JFairfax posted:

HArden the gently caress up ober

Im basically too weak and pathetic to live

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah it actually bothers me quite a bit, this is the house I grew up in and I really don't want to move away - my neighbours are cool, the area's nice enough, and I might actually have the closest proper garden to Canary Wharf, but at the same time I feel like I'm sort of squatting here because it should be a family home - but no family I'd be happy with moving in could possibly afford it if I sold it on, it would just go to a BtR shitlord.

get some refugees living with you

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jose posted:

read national quiz imo

I will look into it, thank you

Jose posted:

get some refugees living with you

S-tier idea

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

communism bitch posted:

Im basically too weak and pathetic to live

Have you considered applying to be leader of the Conservative Party?

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

Josef bugman posted:

I do have a fair amount set aside in savings, from when I was living at home/money from grandparents and I have a line to my folks in case something disastrous happens. I have resources to call on if necessary.

But thanks for the concern, others need the money more than I do though.

i bring this up every time charity's mentioned in this thread, but if you're looking to do the most good with your money then read over givewell's reports. either way though, good on you for being so generous :shobon:

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
if you're poor and still want to give to charity get on the bone marrow donor registry :thumbsup:

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

get some refugees living with you

These poor bastards have suffered enough, imagine having to share a house with my posts. They'd be making rafts to try and float back to Syria before I could say "Actually..."

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Yeah it actually bothers me quite a bit, this is the house I grew up in and I really don't want to move away - my neighbours are cool, the area's nice enough, and I might actually have the closest proper garden to Canary Wharf, but at the same time I feel like I'm sort of squatting here because it should be a family home - but no family I'd be happy with moving in could possibly afford it if I sold it on, it would just go to a BtR shitlord.

sell it and give a large chunk of the proceeds to charity.

Empereur Norton
Feb 28, 2013
The best thing about living in London is the housing. For example having to swap flats in your buildings because your current landlord and old landlord cant get along.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Jose posted:

if you're poor and still want to give to charity get on the bone marrow donor registry :thumbsup:

Also sign up to be an organ donor. If you ride a motorcycle it makes the process faster as well.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Jose posted:

if you're poor and still want to give to charity get on the bone marrow donor registry :thumbsup:

Is this a good way of getting artisanal bone marrow for my toast?

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
general charity chat: if you're making a fair buck, think about pledging a fixed fraction of your income to charity. 10% is the usual recommendation, but if you're filthy rich it should be more while if you're just scraping by it should be less

be the socialism you want to see in the world

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

I'm currently giving a tenner a month to SAMS (Syrian American Medical Society) as they do good work in Syria and that place is seriously hosed up.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

Pictured: Poster prepares to celebrate Holy Communion (probablY)

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Jose posted:

if you're poor and still want to give to charity get on the bone marrow donor registry :thumbsup:

I believe I am on the organ doner registration. Will check if I can do bone marrow stuff.

Also that reminds me that I need to go and give blood over the course of the next week.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Julio Cruz posted:

This is only true if you rarely eat out and never drink.

Like somone else said, that's a myth these days. Alcohol prices have increased everywhere, a lot of pubs are chain pubs now so the food is the same price there as well, and posh restaurants still charge too much matter no matter if you are in London or Sheffield. Entertainment like theatre or cinema is the same price in London as anywhere else and you get more opportunities to grab cheap seats because there are more theatres.

I love London, would move back there in a heartbeat, but alas I also like being able to live in a three bedroom house.

Can I just add a "gently caress the train companies" in order to save money they cancelled the last late train that runs from London to Edinburgh, so the new last train goes before the theatres are finished. It's a big "hey northerners, want to see the latest and greatest west end play and then head on home? Well fuuuuuck you"

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Miftan posted:

Also sign up to be an organ donor. If you ride a motorcycle it makes the process faster as well.

That kinda really only applies to 'Murica, because of their low general level of skill and lack of helmet laws. Motorbike fatalities in the UK tend to be of the kind that leaves your organs suitable only for pies.

(am a motorcyclist, registered organ and marrow donor, and give blood)

Actually yeah if it's at all feasible you should all be blood donors too. An hour out of your day 3 or 4 times a year, and you get choccy biscuits. They even text you letting you know when and where your donation gets used, which is a genuinely amazing feeling.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Josef bugman posted:

I believe I am on the organ doner registration. Will check if I can do bone marrow stuff.

Also that reminds me that I need to go and give blood over the course of the next week.

anthony nolan has a big long list of questions you have to answer and then they send out a pack so you can give them a swab sample from the inside of your mouth

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

feedmegin posted:

Random idea: any interest in a registry of which of us are in which CLPs so newbees know who to talk to to get oriented? Could go in the thread OP or something; I'd be happy to maintain it.

All goons feel free to use #ukgoons on synirc (link in OP) to do this. Even if you just fancy a chat about socialism or sandwiches or that, pop in any time we're very friendly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcCHRW8G9yY Here is a lovely piece of work submitted by #ukgoons chatter tinytrain

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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

That kinda really only applies to 'Murica, because of their low general level of skill and lack of helmet laws. Motorbike fatalities in the UK tend to be of the kind that leaves your organs suitable only for pies.

(am a motorcyclist, registered organ and marrow donor, and give blood)

Actually yeah if it's at all feasible you should all be blood donors too. An hour out of your day 3 or 4 times a year, and you get choccy biscuits. They even text you letting you know when and where your donation gets used, which is a genuinely amazing feeling.

Apparently I constantly faint when I have blood drained out of me nowadays, which is funny because this never used to happen when I had blood drained unwillingly in the army. I'm guess I'm as soft as ober.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

communism bitch posted:

Im basically too weak and pathetic to live

Initial draft of May's first speech to Parliament leaked.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

goddamnedtwisto posted:

That kinda really only applies to 'Murica, because of their low general level of skill and lack of helmet laws. Motorbike fatalities in the UK tend to be of the kind that leaves your organs suitable only for pies.

(am a motorcyclist, registered organ and marrow donor, and give blood)

Actually yeah if it's at all feasible you should all be blood donors too. An hour out of your day 3 or 4 times a year, and you get choccy biscuits. They even text you letting you know when and where your donation gets used, which is a genuinely amazing feeling.

They should make special Isle of Man tt pies

Mr Phillby
Apr 8, 2009

~TRAVIS~

Murderion posted:

One of the times I was out of work, I found one of those on the DWP's own jobsearch website. Or rather, about fifty ads, all for the same job, written in such a way as to show up on pretty much any keyword search (ie, looking for people with experience in customer service, retail, cleaning, bar work, security, you name it). I fired off an application (because hey, counts as an action for the weekly jobseeker's report), and got a reply by phone suspiciously quickly, from the head honcho herself. I agreed, because hey, an interview would probably get the advisor off my back for the week and it got me out of the house. Plus, there was a chance it could have been legit (no there wasn't).

So I show up to a very clearly temporary rented office in a nice building, asking the receptionist on the way in if it was a pyramid scheme (answer being "I dunno, they just rent the place by the hour"). It's near the back of the third floor with no windows, but they've got their own receptionist, which is a nice touch. Absolutely no signs of permanent habitation anywhere, not so much as a photo on the desks. I go in for the interview, and if I wasn't already paranoid alarm bells would have started ringing when she started acting like I already had the job. The few questions I answered brutally honestly (all my experience is straight up customer service, I couldn't sell water in the desert), and she started selling me on the wonders of cold selling... something in shopping centres and lovely retail parks as far away as glorious Cessnock. I pretty much had to interrupt to ask what the wage was. When she said (surprise, surprise) it was 100% commission based, I called her a soulless monster and gave her a ten minute long lecture on how despicable she was for preying on the hopes and dreams of the truly desperate said this wasn't the job for me, shook her hand, and left. I did see the one other person there for the interview (who I'd shared my doubts with before going in) asking the receptionist if this had anything to do with bar work at all, then leave after being told it wasn't. :laugh:

So that's my :words: experience of the commission only scam industry. The saddest thing is that particular pyramid scheme doesn't kick in proper until you reach management level. They're encouraged to set up their own branched off, and do a bunch of shady poo poo like front up ten grand of their own money to set up the company accounts. I'll try to find the sources I did when I looked into it (because again, I was unemployed, bored and genuinely had nothing better to do) if people are interested.
I had one of theses too. I applied for a listing for trainee insulation fitters and it was only after they bundled me into a car and had driven me to another town to shadow one of their workers for the day did the reveal the job was actually door-knocking to flog talk.talk broadband.

It was a weird as gently caress company, everyone I met elusively referred to me as 'buddy' and had an almost pathological hatred for British Telecom. they had me fill out a questionnaire that was full of loaded questions that were very obviously meant to lead me to the conclusion that face to face doorstop selling is cool and good and being paid exclusively on commission just really makes a lot of sense.

coffeetable
Feb 5, 2006

TELL ME AGAIN HOW GREAT BRITAIN WOULD BE IF IT WAS RULED BY THE MERCILESS JACKBOOT OF PRINCE CHARLES

YES I DO TALK TO PLANTS ACTUALLY
I've been meaning to do an ~effective altruism~ post for a while. Haven't got time for the full thing now, but here's a cliffnotes:
  • Donating anything to charity is a good thing, whatever the charity
  • But some charities are far more effective in using your money to improve the world than others
  • Like, hundreds or thousands of times better
  • If what you're trying to do with your charity is save lives/reduce suffering/etc, then GiveWell has done a giant pile of research on where to get the best bang for your buck.
  • Long story short, their recommendations are mosquito nets (~$3000/life saved equivalent) and deworming tablets (~$1000/life saved equivalent).
  • Their website has a lot of details, but if you're a numbers person then maybe jump right to the spreadsheet.
Personally I put 10% towards demorming and I hope it'll be more in future.

coffeetable fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jun 17, 2017

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

That is why the D-notice rumour is so attractive. There is a very obvious and very suspicious opacity to something which is quite literally a matter of record.

Simple subtraction should be able to give us an almost exact count, at least of the missing, and yet nothing. From the very beginning there has been no word of the estimated total dead, and I've yet to see the BBC talk about how many people actually lived in there on the news.

Why are they not telling us how many people survived? That is also a staple of disasters, even if they cannot report the dead they tell you how many got out. Did they all slink away into the sewers to live as volunteer Morlocks in this Big Society of ours?

It is extremely abnormal and the obvious conclusion (the only one I can really come to), correct or not, is that the number believed dead is large enough to bring down the government through civil disorder, and so it is being deliberately hidden for as long as they can.

Do y'all not have something equivalent to the freedom of information.act? Some way to request public records?

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Do y'all not have something equivalent to the freedom of information.act? Some way to request public records?

We have a feeedom of information act yeah

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Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Jose posted:

anthony nolan has a big long list of questions you have to answer and then they send out a pack so you can give them a swab sample from the inside of your mouth

Awesome, will look into this.

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