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Groovelord Neato posted:at least when i've heard them bring up debating gop/conservatives/alt-right folks they say it's a useless exercise because the rightists won't argue properly. even if you "own" them or catch them being hypocrites or point out flaws in their logic it doesn't matter to them. in the west wing episode they talk about this fantasy that liberals have of destroying some gop chud's argument and then he'll magically realize he's wrong and come to the light. they give the real world example of obama putting up a moderate for the supreme court to make mcconnell et al look bad for blocking him not realizing these people are evil shitheads with no morals.
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the problem is that most people allow their beliefs to inform their reality rather than reality inform their beliefs. you'll never see more one-sided debates than clinton vs trump yet it didn't matter at all.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:there is a good chapo episode out right now about the alt right and it points out how terrible liberals are at fighting/debating/interviewing the alt right. part of the reason is that kinda poo poo. jontron is easy because he is an idiot who parrots poo poo whispered in his ear. I initially read that last sentence as 'who shits out what his parrot whispered in his ear' and I think that's also true.
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I mean it was based on polling one of the primary reasons she won the popular vote. That just cannot make up for a loving terrible campaign.
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Jun 17, 2017 16:52
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in a world where debates mattered, it would've been the most one sided election in history. they really should just eliminate presidential debates it's a waste of time.
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Groovelord Neato posted:in a world where debates mattered, it would've been the most one sided election in history. they really should just eliminate presidential debates it's a waste of time. Why would you deprive us of a future chairfuck.gif?
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Jun 17, 2017 16:56
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Good to see you can just restate you previous opinion as a follow up argument.
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I still think my favourite debate was Carl of Sad vs. Kristi Winters on whether feminism is a force for good in the world or not. The amount he just completely poo poo himself and then said afterwards that he'd clearly prepared too hard.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Good to see you can just restate you previous opinion as a follow up argument. i wasn't stating an opinion. Tesseraction posted:I still think my favourite debate was Carl of Sad vs. Kristi Winters on whether feminism is a force for good in the world or not. The amount he just completely poo poo himself and then said afterwards that he'd clearly prepared too hard. the fact he'd agree to do the debate is the best proof of how loving dumb he is.
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Jun 17, 2017 17:00
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This thing didn't win an election entirely by itself = completely worthless waste of time.
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they've always been a waste, that was just the ultimate example. look at kaine/pence - the media shat themselves over how pence won despite lying the entire time. the media always makes it a horserace.
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Jun 17, 2017 17:01
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You can convince and redeem CHUDs it just takes aeons and usually happens as a result of a friendship. Like Derek Black.
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Tesseraction posted:I still think my favourite debate was Carl of Sad vs. Kristi Winters on whether feminism is a force for good in the world or not. The amount he just completely poo poo himself and then said afterwards that he'd clearly prepared too hard. i especially liked this one because even his dumbass fans in the comments were admitting that he had nothing
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Jun 17, 2017 17:03
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the highlight was carl laughing when she was talking about a woman being orally raped in her sleep by a friend.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the highlight was carl laughing when she was talking about a woman being orally raped in her sleep by a friend. Fat man confronted with evidence of something happening: "that doesn't happen! Checkmate, feminist." Didn't he pantomime playing a violin at that part?
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Jun 17, 2017 17:38
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I think the best bit of it was him being asked what alternative theoretical framework people should use other than feminism and he just indignantly says "I don't know. I don't care." Stop feminism! Replace it with.... uhhhhh... STOP FEMINISM!
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I don't know I don't care is Carl's ethos
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Jun 17, 2017 17:51
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Truly the king of the Rationals.
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One can only attain true rationality when one is detached from caring about anything*. *not including themselves.
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Jun 17, 2017 18:30
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https://twitter.com/21logician/status/875842289779838976 Contra's first video on free speech certainly turned out to be prophetic. "Don't think we don't notice what kinds of free speech you care about."
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lmao he literally called some far right guy the new center in one of his videos.
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Jun 17, 2017 21:20
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Groovelord Neato posted:lmao he literally called some far right guy the new center in one of his videos. So center right is like kkk and far right is hitler?
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oh he's done it more than once https://twitter.com/21logician/status/875851485627731970
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:No Fap is due to the belief/theory the whole fapping releases testosterone and fapping too much releases too much testosterone from your body and makes you "weak" And here I was, thinking it was just a stupid reverse psychology gimmick. "hey guys, don't fap to all this porn i'm posting!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flI6p7ruc8c Just found this channel. He has a lot of videos on Sargon.
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So Youtube is in the middle of imploding from it's new censorship and demonetization bullshit legislation set up by WSJ muckrakers in an effort to make Youtube more SJW friendly, right?
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Grouchio posted:So Youtube is in the middle of imploding from it's new censorship and demonetization bullshit legislation set up by WSJ muckrakers in an effort to make Youtube more SJW friendly, right? No.
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No, it's set up by establishment media and instigated by one of the Times rags. It coincides with YouTube's release of YouTube TV which basically puts a load of mainstream type stuff in the feed without demonitising any of it, despite alot having content that would get other channels demonitised, such as news and foreign affairs.
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it's much worse that i get shadowbanned on twitter for calling some maga idiot a "dumbass" while they don't do jack poo poo about all the pepes. you should be able to loving swear on twitter it's ridiculous.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's much worse that i get shadowbanned on twitter for calling some maga idiot a "dumbass" while they don't do jack poo poo about all the pepes. you should be able to loving swear on twitter it's ridiculous. Shadowbanning? I swear on twitter a bit, and everyone I talk to is able to see my tweets.
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PissPigGrandad was just banned from Twitter again, and now he's posting outright Nazi poo poo and got nothing.
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rkajdi posted:Shadowbanning? I swear on twitter a bit, and everyone I talk to is able to see my tweets. it happens if you're replying to blue checkmarks. if you swear, even the slightest bit, you get a 12 hour shadowban so only your followers can see your tweeting.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it happens if you're replying to blue checkmarks. if you swear, even the slightest bit, you get a 12 hour shadowban so only your followers can see your tweeting. So don't swear at actually important people I guess?
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it's dumb as hell dude. also even unimportant people get checkmarks. and if you're making GBS threads on someone in their replies it counts.
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's dumb as hell dude. also even unimportant people get checkmarks. and if you're making GBS threads on someone in their replies it counts. Nah, getting people to act like human beings on twitter when they're doing high profile things (i.e. interacting with people with some level of social cache) is a good way to start cleaning up the platform. Sorry you don't get to drop your sick burn on some underemployed MAGA junkie, but that's what it takes to make sure that women don't get harassed off the service like has been publicly detailed in the recent past.
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what owlfancier said. you should be able to swear at the president, the vp, all of their hangers on, any media personality that defends them. those morons that interrupted julius caesar while mispronouncing goebbels are both checkmarks for instance. most maga chuds are fairly well off white peeps btw.
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Those poor important people, not able to do bad things without people being rude at them on twitter, truly they above all people need to be protected from the consequences of their actions.
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Archer666 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8qczuUrglM it's weird that when people were assassinating abortion doctors nobody screamed at moderate christians for not speaking up.
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