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Anyone build a remote start that just cuts the engine/start attempt if a wheel speed sensor detects movement and the key is not in the ignition (or in car if proximity key/push button start)?
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Jun 18, 2017 00:24
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When I work at the parts store, we sent a delivery to a sketchy tuning shop. One of the cars in their lot was a manual car, parked in gear, and it had remote start, and yes, it started, and drove right into the side of the parked delivery Fiesta. This resulted in a 2 vehicle accident where both cars were unoccupied.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:03
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gently caress it; I will always love this god drat shifter.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:22
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Old glory hole shifter. So strange.
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Jun 18, 2017 04:24
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Wistful of Dollars posted:gently caress it; I will always love this god drat shifter.  Enjoy.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:07
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Wistful of Dollars posted:gently caress it; I will always love this god drat shifter. White gauges can gently caress off forever
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Jun 18, 2017 13:00
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You have to admit they were the poo poo back in the day though. Only thing more early 2000's is Altezza style lights on everything. I remember actively trying to figure out, and eventually finding over-lay gages for my 88 Prelude.
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Jun 18, 2017 14:10
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savesthedayrocks posted:You have to admit they were the poo poo back in the day though. Only thing more early 2000's is Altezza style lights on everything. I remember actively trying to figure out, and eventually finding over-lay gages for my 88 Prelude. Heck yeah, I put two different sets in my Tercel back then. They were hot poo poo. e: dug up some of my old rice rice baby pictures. First set were regular indiglo, second set were reverse backlit. Eventually I took them off and put LED bulbs in when that became a thing.      
opengl fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 18:51
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The second set of white ones look cool
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Jun 18, 2017 21:15
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Wistful of Dollars posted:gently caress it; I will always love this god drat shifter. That reminds me of the Corolla Verso D4D I rented in Germany. Why doesn't toyota sell versos in the US? They're great for pretty much any application where people want a 3rd row for a short period. I guess straight up profit from suvs is the answer, but I don't want it to be.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:06
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My 2009 Evo has a keyfob and a weird pseudo ignition barrel thing you turn like you would a key to start the car. its the worst of both worlds!
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Jun 19, 2017 01:38
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Wistful of Dollars posted:gently caress it; I will always love this god drat shifter.
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Jun 19, 2017 01:59
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Laserface posted:My 2009 Evo has a keyfob and a weird pseudo ignition barrel thing you turn like you would a key to start the car. NC Miata and W203 Mercedes would like a word with you
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Jun 19, 2017 03:58
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The Element also had a weird shifter. The gauges were kind of neat though - they had cones of clear plastic on them - meant to reduce glare. The mk1 Scirocco has gauges like that too.
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Jun 19, 2017 03:58
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Every modern van has that type of shifter too - works much better than a long stick coming up from the floor like they used to use.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:10
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blk posted:NC Miata and W203 Mercedes would like a word with you Also my old '07 Rx8.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:53
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Laserface posted:My 2009 Evo has a keyfob and a weird pseudo ignition barrel thing you turn like you would a key to start the car. My '12 Mustang has the flipmode of that; flicking the key to "start" for a fraction of a second just tells the ECU to run the cranking program, which has ruined me for cars with traditional cranking setups.
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Jun 19, 2017 13:52
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Cocoa Crispies posted:My '12 Mustang has the flipmode of that; flicking the key to "start" for a fraction of a second just tells the ECU to run the cranking program, which has ruined me for cars with traditional cranking setups. I've had a few rental cars with that feature, love it. Definitely Fords, I had a Vauxhall in Scotland recently that had it too.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:33
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opengl128 posted:I've had a few rental cars with that feature, love it. Definitely Fords, I had a Vauxhall in Scotland recently that had it too. Ford has some really smart small usability touches all around. That cranking feature, one-touch up/down windows all around on most cars, and the capless fuel filler system are all great.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:41
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Twerk from Home posted:one-touch up/down windows How is this not more common? VW has had it for a long time but pretty much everyone else only has auto down and then only on the front two windows at best.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:22
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Twerk from Home posted:Ford has some really smart small usability touches all around. That cranking feature, one-touch up/down windows all around on most cars, and the capless fuel filler system are all great. I love the cranking thing. It's not even in the manual for the car because I noticed and looked for it. In the manual it says to keep the key held on start until the engine turns, but the car does it on its own. Push button start is an option on the Fiesta so it's like they kept the same start circuitry for the regular ignition barrel too. It didn't have all one-touch windows (the Fiesta in the UK does IIRC) but it did have capless fuel. Another feature that is cool but few manufacturers have or market it is "convenience windows". Hold the unlock button on the keyfob and all 4 windows roll down. Hold lock for the opposite. Michael Scott fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 16:30
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That roll down the windows with the keyfob thing is maybe my favorite thing about my car. It's a god send in these Southern summers.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:43
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A 10+ y/o holden commodore does these things, eg turn to start mentioned and it cranks itself, auto up windows, auto locks. Shame about the rest of the car though, feels less solid, worse onboard trip computer, has a lovely v6, worse trim, steering and switches than a falcon. But GM gets the start and windows better.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:04
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I rented a brand new grand Cherokee. It turns off whenever the car comes to a complete stop. It's bizzare.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:05
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euphronius posted:I rented a brand new grand Cherokee. It turns off whenever the car comes to a complete stop. It's bizzare. A lot of cars do that now. It gets them another 0.1 mpg on the EPA test.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:09
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The remote window down works on my 'Stang, but windows up does not. 
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Jun 19, 2017 17:13
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euphronius posted:I rented a brand new grand Cherokee. It turns off whenever the car comes to a complete stop. It's bizzare. Not that bizarre. Every Prius, years of BMWs, tons of domestic non-hybrids.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:42
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Well it was bizarre to me Can the wear and tear in the starter possibly be worth it ?
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Jun 19, 2017 17:43
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They use a different starter technology (I am not sure on the technical details but would like to learn) so there is no tangible increase in wear.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:46
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It's not even the starter. They use an over-built alternator and push voltage back through it to turn the engine over. It only works if the engine oil is above a certain temperature and a bunch of other factors.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:58
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euphronius posted:Well it was bizarre to me Ship a bigger starter and bigger battery and it's not an issue. On the Prius, the engine cranks by having the computer drive the two motor/generators in a way that, combined with the wheel speed through a planetary gearset, forces the engine to turn. KillHour posted:It's not even the starter. They use an over-built alternator and push voltage back through it to turn the engine over. It only works if the engine oil is above a certain temperature and a bunch of other factors. The difference between an electric motor and a generator/alternator is mostly how you use it. Full EVs and hybrids don't have separate units for drive and regen. If you're running the starter more than once per drive, and beefing it up appropriately, why not combine it with the alternator and replace some mechanical complexity with electronic?
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Jun 19, 2017 18:36
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Why does everyone like the one-touch-down windows? Am I the only one that likes to open my windows partway more often than all the way?
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Jun 19, 2017 20:19
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KillHour posted:It's not even the starter. They use an over-built alternator and push voltage back through it to turn the engine over. It only works if the engine oil is above a certain temperature and a bunch of other factors. That makes sense . Thanks
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Jun 19, 2017 20:21
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prom candy posted:Why does everyone like the one-touch-down windows? Am I the only one that likes to open my windows partway more often than all the way? I assumed the one-touch-down window feature is like what I've had in cars, where your window control is either force-sensitive so you push it down manually or push it down harder and it clicks and moves the window all the way, or another car where you can tap it quickly for full-down or just keep holding it to get the amount you want. Handy when you want to crack the windows but usually I want them either down or up.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:25
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prom candy posted:Why does everyone like the one-touch-down windows? Am I the only one that likes to open my windows partway more often than all the way? Having to hold your finger on a button for three seconds is the height of inconvenience.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:25
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prom candy posted:Why does everyone like the one-touch-down windows? Am I the only one that likes to open my windows partway more often than all the way? you can certainly do that with one-touch window switches
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Jun 19, 2017 20:27
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I rented an older f250 yesterday from Home Depot and my son was with me. He didn't know what the manual roll down window levers were or how to operate them.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:27
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euphronius posted:I rented an older f250 yesterday from Home Depot and my son was with me. He didn't know what the manual roll down window levers were or how to operate them. Pick up an old phone and make him literally dial a number. It will blow his mind. Then play some Cribbage with him while you listen to the Green Hornet on the radio.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:31
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Ship a bigger starter and bigger battery and it's not an issue. On the Prius, the engine cranks by having the computer drive the two motor/generators in a way that, combined with the wheel speed through a planetary gearset, forces the engine to turn. Because the alternator is on an accessory belt that can't bare the full power of a cold start. That only works well when the engine is already warmed up. And after doing some research, it looks like different manufacturers handle it differently - some use modified starters with two independent solenoids, some use the alternator (and can even use that same alternator to run things like the AC when the engine is off - there's a clutch that disconnects the belt from the drive), and Mazda has a crazy system where the alternator moves whichever cylinder is under compression into position and the engine then turns itself over with a little help from the starter. quote:The i-Stop system, Mazda’s first start stop system, detects which piston is in the best position to restart quickest, which is the one in the combustion stroke phase, where air and fuel are in the cylinder, ready to be ignited. The mixture in this cylinder is ignited by the spark plug, forcing that piston down, and with partial-assistance from the starter motor, results in a near instantaneous engine restart time of 0.35 seconds.[24]
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Jun 19, 2017 21:06
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Cocoa Crispies posted:Ship a bigger starter and bigger battery and it's not an issue. On the Prius, the engine cranks by having the computer drive the two motor/generators in a way that, combined with the wheel speed through a planetary gearset, forces the engine to turn. A starter motor is vastly undersized for the job it's doing. It it runs for more than a few seconds it will melt down because it's being deliberately overloaded to start the car. That was actually the engineering breakthrough that Cadillac made to make electric starters possible in the first place. Everyone had looked at the equations for designing an electric motor and concluded an electric starter motor would have to be as big as the engine itself, and thus impractical. Cadillac engineers realized that the equations assumed a steady state, so that heat could dissipate as fast as it formed. They figured out that they could use the whole motor as a temporary heat sink and overload the poo poo out of a small motor for a few seconds to get the engine going. By the time the heat built up, the engine would be going and the starter could be shut off. Thus, unless you have an integrated electric drive system like a hybrid, trying to use the starter motor to generate electricity would quickly burn it out. Hence there is a separate alternator.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:16
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