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rabidsquid posted:i sort of want to trim some of my units, keeping nine ignus is probably way overkill right? i know some units really shine with four L&A but the odds that i need to get eight total probably are not great I have 5 Zidanes that are about to go into a single one. I have 3 dual-wield already and his TM is less necessary now that I have 3 Abels waiting to poop out a dagger, 5 Camilles waiting to poop out a sword, and another Gilgamesh to throw on the TM team as well.
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rabidsquid posted:i sort of want to trim some of my units, keeping nine ignus is probably way overkill right? i know some units really shine with four L&A but the odds that i need to get eight total probably are not great I have never drawn a Ludmille. Plenty of Zidanes now though.
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rabidsquid posted:i sort of want to trim some of my units, keeping nine ignus is probably way overkill right? i know some units really shine with four L&A but the odds that i need to get eight total probably are not great Sounds like it's time for you to do some TMRing with 5x of the same unit to smush down. You could get your 4 L&A in half the time by smooshing in pairs. And you'll probably never need more than 2 DCs. WoL just smashes down to 1, his TMR is bad.
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KDdidit posted:I'm happy with my unit management. With TM power creep, I'm smooshing a lot of old ones. Also weeding out copy units of TMs that I want, but not enough to ever run multiples of to speed it up. I seriously have been smashing some of the older ones too. The power creep is nice especially with some of the free TMs we got from the FF14 events
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Decided to drop 10 tickets chasing another banner unit (I pulled Tilith last time, but that's all I have aside from Maxwell). First ticket went blue -> gold -> rainbow: Trance Terra. Not too bad, though I recently realized the only on-banner 5* I've ever pulled was White Knight Noel way back on the Christmas banner, so it's (not) nice to see that streak continue. Anyway, I should've stopped there (and would've had it been on-banner, grumble grumble) since the rest was junk, with the only gold crystal popping out Nine.
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rabidsquid posted:i sort of want to trim some of my units, keeping nine ignus is probably way overkill right? i know some units really shine with four L&A but the odds that i need to get eight total probably are not great The way I see it, it takes weeks or months to grind out 5 units TMs. In that time, half the ones you didn't do are becoming more and more obsolete (Shanotto had a great one 6 months ago, and I have 20 of her, but what's 30% mag now that I have a ton of 30% mag plus extras?) So if it's not one of your active grinds, or on your next up list, then I'd consider smushing them because we both know you're never grinding them all out.
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So a while back someone was asking about enhancements and which crysts were the worst/most useless. Guard came up as a cryst that isn't particularly useful so I checked the reddit list to see who you could even spend guard crysts on. So here are the unit that can use guard crysts and some analysis. I'm not saying that you should be trying to get guard crysts but rather just looking at where we can spend the ones we get. Where to spend guard crysts (Unit Name - Skill Name - total cost for +2 - enhancement benefit) Charlotte - Royal Armlet- 25/20/8/1/0 - Cover skill, increases MAG damage reduction for covering to 100% Cecil - Saintly Wall - 38/25/20/6/3 - Cover skill, adds 30% light resist and 5% MP refresh Marie - Lovely Guard - 38/25/20/6/3 - Status Immunity now covers all status, 40% DEF/SPR buff(think Protectga+Shellga) Randi - Mana's Bond - 38/20/13/3/1 - Increases Resist to 100%, allows him to Cast (ST ~60 HP Heal w/ 1.2x Mod per Turn), and 5% MP Refresh Sakura - Defensive Barrier - 25/20/8/1/0 - Adds Protectga+Shellga on to the 20% Damage Reduction and the effect lasts for 5 turns. Warrior of Light - Brave Presence = 38/20/13/3/1 - Increases the 100% provoke to last 3 turns. Warrior of Light - The Light is With Us - 38/25/20/6/3 - Increases the chance to cover to 75% and increases the MAG damage reduction to 70% ---- If you have Randi then getting his skill is probably a good use for the MP refresh alone. I have a Marie and I'm not really sure if hers is worthwhile or not. Protectga and Shellga in a single skill are neat, but a lot of the time when I'm dualcasting her, I'll be throwing in a Cura and rotating my timers. Since this is a skill you can't dual cast it and increasing the immunities covered is worthless because you should have Ribbons/Goddess Protection/Discernment/Etc. before going into the fight. Charlotte's seems much better than Cecil because a) it's a lot cheaper, and b) covering Magic attacks and taking no damage has got to be awesome during some trial. However that's pretty niche. Cecil's MP regen would be nice but I don't typically have mana issue with him anyway. Sakura's seems like a no brainer. It's on the cheap end of enhancements, and putting her best skill on a 5 turn timer instead of 3 is great; fusing proctectga and shellga into it is fantastic. WoL is a mixed bag. The first skill, the one I bolded; Brave Presence is just obviously great. It's not super expensive and even not spending the T5 and only spending 1 T4 increases the timer to 2 turns which is still very worth doing. WoL's best ability is being able to 100% provoke, this means that you can toss some turns inbetween guarding so he'll take even less damage, or gives you a turn to alternate breaking without losing 100% provoke. His second skill is super expensive, and while it increases the cover rate to 75%, you can't control who he covers which is why I'm never sold on cover skills. One good thing is that with the MAG reduction this is for those times when he needs to jump in the way of an AOE, and it's going to be really effective. The cost though, 3 T5 guard crysts is just too high.
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Jun 18, 2017 00:56
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please do not troll these people into accumulating guard crysts for this alleged wol 6*
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Jun 18, 2017 01:09
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Have Faith, I do Not for WoL I mean, but uh have faith
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YTMND is over and I don't know what really replaces it, so just imagine this played over this:
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Jun 18, 2017 02:04
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Out of Curiosity, When Fina got her combined form, Exvius went to #1 for Japan in downloads or money spent (I forget which), Anyone know was its rank for prior weeks or where it hovered at?
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jetz0r posted:Sounds like it's time for you to do some TMRing with 5x of the same unit to smush down. You could get your 4 L&A in half the time by smooshing in pairs. And you'll probably never need more than 2 DCs. that's probably a good idea, i am currently doing that with black cowls. i don't actually know how many of these i will realistically need especially since that easter event hat isnt THAT bad.
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Shoenin posted:Out of Curiosity, When Fina got her combined form, Exvius went to #1 for Japan in downloads or money spent (I forget which), It was money, and it was in like the 100-200 range I think.
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realized i hadn't done elt echidna and completed it with wilhelm tanking was p easy to fill lbs and esper with him countering every turn with black belt and twin lance just gotta finish up grinding some hill diggers and his shield for super tanky goodness
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Jun 18, 2017 05:12
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Shoenin posted:Out of Curiosity, When Fina got her combined form, Exvius went to #1 for Japan in downloads or money spent (I forget which), It went from 120 to 1 in top grossing.
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Jun 18, 2017 07:39
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I'll never need more than 3 black cowls, right? I can safely squish my three remaining Hayatos together, right?
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Jun 18, 2017 09:23
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Skyridge posted:I'll never need more than 3 black cowls, right? I can safely squish my three remaining Hayatos together, right? Unlikely, I only have two and never really felt the lack. In other news, Trance Terra actually is pretty hilarious. I have 883 MAG on her, and Ring of the Lucii (so 55% dodge). She hits for unchained 400k Alterna on Holy Flame Vargas. After her enhancements, she will have a lot more survivability, getting upwards of 6000 HP due to being able to replace L&As for Prajna's (because hitting 300% MAG easily), and her own +20% HP.
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I've rolled two rainbow crystals on this banner now. One was Eliza, the second was a second Orlandeu. What the gently caress. So, uh, how should I gear him up? Without Large Sword Mastery and any way to get a second genji blade should I just go for Dual Wield, Blade Mastery and stack what 30%'s I can?
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Skyridge posted:I'll never need more than 3 black cowls, right? I can safely squish my three remaining Hayatos together, right? Black cowel is BIS for most healers too, make a fourth.
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Jun 18, 2017 11:52
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PaybackJack posted:
The light is with us in conjunction with his passives are what makes WoL so incredibly meta defining even as newer tanks get released. When WoL 6* came out in Japan he was the first tank with 100% provoke. He was the first character with AOE breaks. And more importantly he was the first character with AOE blocks. TLiWU activates his AOE guard, and it's essential for later content. For ten man's you NEED and AOE magic blocker and your choices are WoL and Mistair
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My daily draw was a rainbow today, Wilhelm! That's cool and all, but with 6 * WoL coming soon does wilhelm offer enough to level him up too?
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:My daily draw was a rainbow today, Wilhelm! That's cool and all, but with 6 * WoL coming soon does wilhelm offer enough to level him up too? "Soon"
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There are trials that need two tanks, absolutely level him up. He's probably better than WOL for certain things anyways.
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Cao Ni Ma posted:The light is with us in conjunction with his passives are what makes WoL so incredibly meta defining even as newer tanks get released. Just seems like if you're in need of an AOE magic blocker, Charlotte is a cheaper option who takes less damage from MAG attacks. Obviously who knows when we'll get her enhancements and her 6*, but given the cost of having to get 3 T5 crysts versus 1 T4; just felt like she was more viable in that role.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:My daily draw was a rainbow today, Wilhelm! That's cool and all, but with 6 * WoL coming soon does wilhelm offer enough to level him up too? they do different things but in terms of pure tanking and defensive stats wilhelm is better wol doesn't get super goood until enhancements and then it depends on if the fight is single target or aoe damage
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I'm very interested to see how people on the Reddit and stuff like that react to WoL's 6* not being the end all tank right out of the gate. He only really becomes amazing after enhancements and even then it's only for physical based enemies. I suppose it's going to be tough though, after being hyped to hell and back I doubt a lot of people would listen to anyone saying their saviour WoL is anything less than a 10/10 unit upon release that trivializes every bit of content.
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SereneCrimson posted:I'm very interested to see how people on the Reddit and stuff like that react to WoL's 6* not being the end all tank right out of the gate. He only really becomes amazing after enhancements and even then it's only for physical based enemies. I'm just going to be happy to have a unit that can 100% provoke, with high HP, that can use heavy shields and armor. Unit he gets enhancements, someone else will be on the team to cover breaking.
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I got Tilith! Not from all those summon tickets or 10+1 summons I spent, but from a daily pull naturally 
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I got Rakshasa I hate daily pulls.
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rabidsquid posted:i sort of want to trim some of my units, keeping nine ignus is probably way overkill right? i know some units really shine with four L&A but the odds that i need to get eight total probably are not great You probably wouldn't need more than 2 dualcasts at this point. The vast majority of magic users now have it baked into their 6*. Really, Refia and Cecil are the two main reasons to want it.
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PaybackJack posted:Just seems like if you're in need of an AOE magic blocker, Charlotte is a cheaper option who takes less damage from MAG attacks. Obviously who knows when we'll get her enhancements and her 6*, but given the cost of having to get 3 T5 crysts versus 1 T4; just felt like she was more viable in that role. But WoL also takes less damage from MAG attacks (and is likely healing to full since he's being hit by magic attacks and triggering his self-heal)? Charlotte has all of 10 more SPR baseline than WoL at 6* with passives and pots included, and their AoE Cover abilities are identical. Then when enhancements happen, Charlotte gets no upgrades to her AoE Cover ability, while WoL's increases to a 75% chance & 70% MAG reduction.
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By the way, since the annviersary event is this week, do we want a new thread, or will we just get a re-write of the first two posts? The 2nd post hasn't been updated since gacha change.
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AegisP posted:But WoL also takes less damage from MAG attacks (and is likely healing to full since he's being hit by magic attacks and triggering his self-heal)? Charlotte has all of 10 more SPR baseline than WoL at 6* with passives and pots included, and their AoE Cover abilities are identical. Then when enhancements happen, Charlotte gets no upgrades to her AoE Cover ability, while WoL's increases to a 75% chance & 70% MAG reduction. According to the reddit wiki, Charlotte's cover ability increases to 100% MAG reduction with enhancements. If we get the T5 crysts through story events, swell. I'll definitely drop them on him after doing Sakura, and his own Provoke ablity but I'm not grinding out 80k of King Mog currency to make him slightly better than Charlotte who seems like she'll do just fine in the role for significantly less work. Tengames posted:By the way, since the annviersary event is this week, do we want a new thread, or will we just get a re-write of the first two posts? The 2nd post hasn't been updated since gacha change. I'm working on a new thread. Will post it when the anniversary stuff begins with a 1st post dedicated to new players that might want to join at that time. There's plenty in there that needs to be updated and I'm trying to make some more images that should show up better on phones. PaybackJack fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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PaybackJack posted:According to the reddit wiki, Charlotte's cover ability increases to 100% MAG reduction. Royal Armlet is her single target Cover ability, not her AoE Cover ability.
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AegisP posted:Royal Armlet is her single target Cover ability, not her AoE Cover ability. Ahh, I thought it was a skill that made her cover, AOE for a turn; not it's own thing. I concede the point then.
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It doesn't help that both icons are the same, and since we don't have her 6* in Global, it lacks an English translation. She does passively Cover better than WoL (his is only 30%), but WoL always sucked for passive Covering and well, Cecil is the king there.
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AegisP posted:It doesn't help that both icons are the same, and since we don't have her 6* in Global, it lacks an English translation. I just checked and I already have 3 Guard Purecrysts and have certainly never grinded one out on King Mog, so there's a pretty good chance that we'll see another one from a story event between now and then as well. So unless you're out of cash somehow, you should be able to afford it given the lack of other things to spend them on.
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My game is crashing during a cutscene. Any way to get around this?
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PaybackJack posted:I just checked and I already have 3 Guard Purecrysts and have certainly never grinded one out on King Mog, so there's a pretty good chance that we'll see another one from a story event between now and then as well. So unless you're out of cash somehow, you should be able to afford it given the lack of other things to spend them on. Yea, with how I'm not really planning on spending Guard or Tech on anything in the near future, all of WoL's enhancements seem affordable. If we're getting 1 story event per month, that's 2 more Purecrysts each month on top of whatever else is in shops/events/freebies.
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