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http://www.vesselofinterest.com/2017/06/mapping-acx-crystals-collision-with-uss.html Boat sperg speculates that the freighter bridge was asleep, collided, and continued on autopilot for another 30 minutes before turning back around.
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Godholio posted:Why is this still the case? Sometimes AIS systems aren't automatic and require user input. That's why there are so many "Anchored" ships screaming around underway at 15+ knots. Also, if the connectivity to the online tracker drops momentarily and causes a gap in data it can result in an erratic looking track.
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Lake of Methane posted:http://www.vesselofinterest.com/2017/06/mapping-acx-crystals-collision-with-uss.html Top comment at the bottom: quote:One theory: sea jihad. Third Mate Muhamid Pongo on duty. Realizes from AIS they just passed a USN "kafir infidel" warship. Makes a U-turn on his own. Looks at the CPA plot, uses it in reverse to create a collision. Last few minutes, lies on the ship to ship radio. (Taqiyya/Kitman, "Holy Lying.) "Don't worry captain, I'm turning to port, you turn to starboard." (As he turns to starboard." Next on the USN recording, which, following Orlando Pulse night club protocals will be kept secret from the world: "Allahu Akbar!"
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I can definitely see the "no one was on the bridge, everyone was catching a few winks". The jihadi container ship theory though 
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Lake of Methane posted:http://www.vesselofinterest.com/2017/06/mapping-acx-crystals-collision-with-uss.html Sadly that makes a lot of sense.
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I remember two finger making some posts about how iron mike (autopilot) is a dangerous thing. Why in the hell would you think that autopilot is a good idea in a busy approach area to a major port?
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orange juche posted:I remember two finger making some posts about how iron mike (autopilot) is a dangerous thing. Why in the hell would you think that autopilot is a good idea in a busy approach area to a major port? Laziness is a hell of a thing. E: Auto pilot in approaches isn't necessarily bad. If you have the proper watches posted it's perfectly fine. ManMythLegend fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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ManMythLegend posted:Sometimes AIS systems aren't automatic and require user input. That's why there are so many "Anchored" ships screaming around underway at 15+ knots. We had AIS receivers on our sensor platforms that we'd place around, and sometimes you'd get tracks cutting across Coronado Island in San Diego or going inland at absurd speeds. It was always funny to see, and we learned that AIS was completely unreliable in actually tracking things compared to getting an actual radar track or visual on it. One time I saw a yacht called "Balls"
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ManMythLegend posted:Laziness is a hell of a thing. Well in this case it was the Tesla dude except he was driving the tractor-trailer instead of the passenger car. Bridge crew of the Fitz are still hosed because if the container ship was autopiloting she was probably not making drastic changes in speed or heading and it's entirely down to bad calls by Fitz bridge crew. orange juche fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Lmao that crazy jihadi containership theory was posted by Matt Bracken, a "patriot fiction" author. I'm pretty sure TFR has had some lets reads of his crazy books.
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quote:ISTANBUL (AP) — A Turkish prosecutor says 731 soldiers at a western base were sent to the hospital with food poisoning and 21 people from the company that provided the food have been detained.
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TBeats posted:Stephen Furst died. Well, he made it about 20 years longer than he would have if he hadn't started dieting in the 90s.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all to see a big merchant on auto in the middle of the night, but unless they had their lights off and weather was so bad that it was throwing off radar tracks its hard to to think of any mitigating factors. I dealt with tankers more than cargo vessels, but the rules don't change. Also the 1:30am collision with hour later reporting jives with other stuff we've heard.
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Sounds like someone mashed GI Soap into the sweet potatoes again.
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Godholio posted:Last I heard was it looked like brain damage from oxygen starvation. Failed suicide attempt, I wonder.
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TBeats posted:Stephen Furst died. Another one goes beyond the rim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DfQcHMYLY&feature=youtu.be&t=1m19s
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Midjack posted:Failed suicide attempt, I wonder. Or the botulism story is true and they didn't bother to put him on a ventilator in time.
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LITERALLY SHAKING posted:I'm waiting for the false flag claim and pictures of the victims being used in context of other, future false flag events. no what they're trying to do is blame labour for the fire even though they didn't control the council that managed it
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How many days are we at since something retarded coming from our executive branch dominating headlines?
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Zeris posted:How many days are we at since something retarded coming from our executive branch dominating headlines? honestly the stupidity continues, it's even getting worse, it's just that people are burning out on it. What was once massive crippling scandal is the new normal. Most recent: Trump nominated a wedding planner with no experience who lied about attending law school to a position in HUD that oversaw a budget worth billions of dollars.
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Zeris posted:How many days are we at since something retarded coming from our executive branch dominating headlines? About a day. It's sunday, let the donnie rest.
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Zeris posted:How many days are we at since something retarded coming from our executive branch dominating headlines? http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/876388733607694336 http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/876390681056600066 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/876394578777174021 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875732813278048256 About 5 hours.
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BigDave posted:http://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/876388733607694336 I feel like there are more lies and falsehoods than facts in those tweets
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What's not great about America again. Why do white people love complaining so much.
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orange juche posted:About a day. It's sunday, let the donnie rest. His lawyer's on it instead: Trump lawyer: The president is not under investigation for obstruction quote:In a combative and testy exchange on “Fox News Sunday,” Sekulow acknowledged he could not know for sure that Mueller has not opened an investigation but said he had no reason to believe he had.
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milk milk lemonade posted:What's not great about America again. Why do white people love complaining so much. Ever notice how Trump is obsessed with "losing" and "winning?" Trump and his trumpeters have the mindset that if someone is winning, it must be at the expense of others. So any time they see a black person, a gay person, a woman, an immigrant doing better than they did in 1980 (i.e. "winning") they necessarily believe that they, the white man, must be "losing." If another nation has a growing economy ("winning") it has to be because they are doing it at our expense ("losing"). Trump and the deplorables cannot conceive of anything but zero sum games. America was great when white Americans were winning and everyone else was losing.
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Zeris posted:How many days are we at since something retarded coming from our executive branch dominating headlines? I can't remember if I found this in this thread or somewhere else but https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/ helps
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Minor thing, but WaPo got the official letter that Sheriff David Clarke received from DHS about the position he was up for, but backed away from. https://twitter.com/abbydphillip/status/876471590506168321 Turns out Clarke really DID get a job offer from DHS. I always thought he was just bullshitting. $179,700/year.
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Zeris posted:How many days are we at since something retarded coming from our executive branch dominating headlines? One of his lawyers did something stupid in his stead https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8Fl32iRCN0
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mlmp08 posted:One of his lawyers did something stupid in his stead Said lawyer went around to almost all of the major networks. All of the networks (even Chris Wallace because he's actually part of the news division and actually gives a poo poo) basically thought the lawyer was being dumb as gently caress. None moreso than Jake Tapper. https://www.buzzfeed.com/davidmack/jake-tapper-reax?bftwnews&utm_term=.cmrQM0KQpz#.jx49rVQ98x  I call that the DID SOMEONE STEP ON A DUCK Interview recap: http://www.mediaite.com/tv/chris-wallace-battles-jay-sekulow-over-trump-investigation-inconsistencies-oh-boy-this-is-weird/ facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 18:23 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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mlmp08 posted:One of his lawyers did something stupid in his stead Unnnngh oh my god i just came a little. I want to crush up this video and inject it right into my veins. It's got so much amazing stuff going on. Right wing propaganda talking heads eating each other, an administration toadie flailing around like a gazelle in an alligator's jaws as he desperately tries to ignore reality and spew the talking points that were handed to him by an orange manchild, abject fear transforming into anger when he realized he hosed up and said a bad thing about the emperor's new clothes on his holiest of holies, TV news, knowing his boss is watching at exactly that minute and is going to be loving pissed. edit: oh god it gets better, I didn't even notice the video title. These loving clowns are so desperate to live in their own ignorance. bird food bathtub fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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mlmp08 posted:One of his lawyers did something stupid in his stead Jay Sekulow, of the ACLJ, Pat Robertson's twisted vision of an ACLU for the religious right.
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joat mon posted:Jay Sekulow, of the ACLJ, Pat Robertson's twisted vision of an ACLU for the religious right. Then you'd think he would be better at defending dumb poo poo said by stupid idiots.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Ever notice how Trump is obsessed with "losing" and "winning?" Trump and his trumpeters have the mindset that if someone is winning, it must be at the expense of others. So any time they see a black person, a gay person, a woman, an immigrant doing better than they did in 1980 (i.e. "winning") they necessarily believe that they, the white man, must be "losing." I mean, in a certain sense, it's true. Previously, if you were a white man, you could more or less expect to have access to a job market wherein minorities and women were shut out of many positions, improving access for you. If you demanded that women, children, and minorities show you deference, society agreed with that expectation. Given that wages have been stagnant and job numbers have not kept up with population in some regions, access to limited employment resources may actually be zero sum. You can quite reasonably say that allowing minorities and women access to the full job market and all of society's other benefits is a good thing, but it's disingenuous to pretend that there isn't a loss for those who used to enjoy privileged access.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I mean, in a certain sense, it's true. Previously, if you were a white man, you could more or less expect to have access to a job market wherein minorities and women were shut out of many positions, improving access for you. If you demanded that women, children, and minorities show you deference, society agreed with that expectation. Given that wages have been stagnant and job numbers have not kept up with population in some regions, access to limited employment resources may actually be zero sum. You can quite reasonably say that allowing minorities and women access to the full job market and all of society's other benefits is a good thing, but it's disingenuous to pretend that there isn't a loss for those who used to enjoy privileged access. Put another way, uneducated white men are discovering how much it sucks to be everyone else and are holding everyone else accountable for it.
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psydude posted:Put another way, uneducated white men are discovering how much it sucks to be everyone else and are holding everyone else accountable for it. Yep. Telling people, "Your piece of the pie is going to be smaller so that everyone can have some" isn't necessarily some monstrous argument, but it's disingenuous to pretend that there will always be enough pie for everyone to be satisfied, and stupid to act as though people are somehow irrational or alien for preferring the situation where they get to keep having the same amount of pie they do right now, or used to get 40 years ago.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Yep. Telling people, "Your piece of the pie is going to be smaller so that everyone can have some" isn't necessarily some monstrous argument, but it's disingenuous to pretend that there will always be enough pie for everyone to be satisfied, and stupid to act as though people are somehow irrational or alien for preferring the situation where they get to keep having the same amount of pie they do right now, or used to get 40 years ago. Except that God Capitalism has always preached that the great thing about capitalism is that the pie can grow larger so that everyone can benefit without hurting someone else.
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