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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Lord_Adonis posted:I believe that there is a case to be made that the lack of our European friends is rather pathetic, in my opinion that only has access to estimates of comprehensive identity planning in this country, the answer is ''be more like Francey, and less like the Units''. shut up nerd
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:this is the weirdest gimmick How so?
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Jun 18, 2017 20:50
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:shut up nerd Could you be more specific?
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Lord_Adonis posted:How so? Tis unbelievable to me, I'm afraid, that your style of addressing others in this thread is not some kind of gimmick: in other words a put-on, a sham, and - to coin the parlance of the times, "not on the level".
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Jun 18, 2017 20:54
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NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD!
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goddamnedtwisto posted:There was a trend throughout the late 80s and early 90s to demolish 60s and 70s high rises and replace them with mid-density housing. One of the best examples of this was the Trowbridge Estate in Hackney, which gave us this hilarity: quote:Interestingly even though it was almost exactly the same families living there the crime rate in the area plummeted. There were quite a few studies done on this (and the similar and rather less sensitive decantings that happened in the era) but I'm struggling to find them now, but if I do I'll post them up, they were very interesting and of course completely ignored.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:55
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Regarde Aduck posted:NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRDDDDDDDDDDDD!
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Lord_Adonis posted:Could you be more specific? put your fingers in your mouth, then snap your jaw shut
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Jun 18, 2017 20:58
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:Tis unbelievable to me, I'm afraid, that your style of addressing others in this thread is not some kind of gimmick: in other words a put-on, a sham, and - to coin the parlance of the times, "not on the level". I can assure you that I am being entirely honest.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:01
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:put your fingers in your mouth, then snap your jaw shut That would not be the act of someone with integrity.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:03
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Steve2911 posted:Yeah I think that evens everything out. Sometimes I'm sad we abandoned the concept of weregild.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:04
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First pictures from inside Grenfell tower have been released Updated death toll will be released tomorrow. This isn't going out of the news cycle just yet.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:09
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OwlFancier posted:Sometimes I'm sad we abandoned the concept of weregild.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:10
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Guavanaut posted:And that is called paying the weregild; but we've proved it again and again, that if once you have paid him the weregild you never get rid of the, uh, something. I was literally just thinking that we already have danegeld in the form of landlording.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:12
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pumpinglemma posted:That was my first reaction, but it turns out there's also a Preston in London (which is about 7 miles away from Grenfell according to Google Maps). Still bad, but not cartoonishly so. Assuming it is true, it's bloody stupid of RBKC in the long run. They can legally provide accommodation out of borough (particularly temporary accommodation) when they can demonstrate it isn't reasonably practicable to accommodate in the local area, but even then going as far afield as Lancashire is unlikely to hold water on review. If it's really true that they're doing this I hope the victims can be hooked up with a lawyer. (As I said earlier, I know Shelter's trying to get in touch with victims, and apparently the North Kensington Law Centre is also trying to reach out, hope for everyone's sake this gets resolved.)
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Jun 18, 2017 21:13
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Okay, 5k from the council. That's rental assistance. But don't be surprised if the checks are bundled with "don't sue us" provisions. The Red Cross is on point now, the victims are their clients. In no order; 1) The clients need caseworkers to help secure resources in a timely manner. 2) And mental health counseling for the survivors and the community. 3) Targeted individual job placement, moving help, and transportation aid as needed. 4) Immediate access to clothes, hygene products, and cleaning products. 5) Information that's updated every hour to every few hours, for client use and public use. Including tallies for the number of people helped, numbers to call, current death tool. 6) Access to free or reduced cost niche services or goods. 7) Replacement medical equipment and medications. 8) Arrangements need to be worked out with the clients schools, employers, debt collectors. 9) And commitments from the local and federal government to plan ahead with the community for future disasters and to have resources at the ready. Time is of the essence because that all should have been done by now. But I wouldn't be surprised if the council is dragging their feet giving info to the Red Cross in the hopes that more people take the money and shut up. Edit: Just to be clear, the RC might be in charge of coordination but it depends on the work of others and those others deserve thanks and recognition. If a hospital donates wheelchairs the hospital gets the credit. If Cambridge offers tutoring for kids then it gets the credit. If the CoE takes charge of feeding they get the credit. Etc. RandomPauI fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 21:14
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Zephro posted:Not to defend the train cos, but the comparisons aren't always straightforward. I went from Surrey to Chester for a wedding a few weeks ago. The train was pretty expensive vs the car, but at least I could stare out the window / read my Kindle / chat up the girl opposite / drink a nice cold one on the train. Driving for 4.5+ hours is tiring and you can't do anything else in the meantime.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:18
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God I hope virgin have aircon on the ECML
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Jun 18, 2017 21:19
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It's all ancient stock on that line but they managed to fit air conditioners to First Great Western's Mk3 coaches so I guess you should be OK in a Mk4.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:24
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Mk3s and Mk4s might be old, but they're infinitely preferable to a trip in a Pendolino or Voyager piss-carriage.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:27
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I was coming back from Worthing to Brighton today which is just a 40ish minute trip and I had to get out halfway though at some random station for a break from the cant move, screaming kids, shouting yoofs, fainting heat ness of it all. Even the tube at rush hour is better than Southern Rail at pretty much any time. Great Western and the Anglia one on the other hand manage to not be horrible, you can actually sit down, grab a beer or a Sandwich if you want it. Somehow the cars seem wider. All at peak times
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Jun 18, 2017 21:33
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Seaside Loafer posted:I was coming back from Worthing to Brighton today which is just a 40ish minute trip and I had to get out halfway though at some random station for a break from the cant move, screaming kids, shouting yoofs, fainting heat ness of it all. Even the tube at rush hour is better than Southern Rail at pretty much any time. pff have you got the train from london to bristol at rush hour?
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Jun 18, 2017 21:34
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Greater Anglia is a loving poo poo show if that's the one you mean. The Norwich line is fine but the Essex ones are awful.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:38
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Seaside Loafer posted:I was coming back from Worthing to Brighton today which is just a 40ish minute trip and I had to get out halfway though at some random station for a break from the cant move, screaming kids, shouting yoofs, fainting heat ness of it all. Even the tube at rush hour is better than Southern Rail at pretty much any time. I have no idea why they only put 3 and 4 car units on the Southampton to Brighton line. It is nearly always packed full by the time it gets to Chichester.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:40
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OwlFancier posted:Sometimes I'm sad we abandoned the concept of weregild. Paup weregild is less than real people weregild.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:40
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Kensington council would be happy to pay three shillings apiece to make legal responsibility go away.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:42
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Ludicro posted:That's better than what I would get, if the trip I used in my post was a one off rather than a season ticket, it would be £42.70 for a journey that is by road 37 miles each way. Keep in mind as well that I drive a 1 Series, so it's possible to bring the cost difference of car vs train down even more. Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Jun 18, 2017 21:46
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Kensington council would be happy to pay three shillings apiece to make legal responsibility go away. So far the bid is £5,500 per family, which is somewhere between the cost of fireproof cladding and the cost of a sprinkler system. They could still come out ahead!
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Catzilla posted:I have no idea why they only put 3 and 4 car units on the Southampton to Brighton line. It is nearly always packed full by the time it gets to Chichester. Either that or they are just thieving cunts who deliberately make it good when a strike is on as part of an evil strategy.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:46
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40318674quote:Chancellor Philip Hammond has criticised the way the Conservatives fought the general election campaign, saying there should have been more focus on the economy. Bets on how long she survives?
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Jun 18, 2017 21:48
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OwlFancier posted:Sometimes I'm sad we abandoned the concept of weregild. I prefer the Maori concept of Utu which demands reciprocity for all actions both good and bad. In this case that might require the burning of property and relatives of those responsible  (Also the title of a great movie)
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Jun 18, 2017 21:50
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Guavanaut posted:The other side of that is that you can get a higher density in low rises while still having some green space in the areas between them. yeah if sadiq wants to push for euro style low rise high density developments, that's far preferable to the 60s le corbusier style ovens that are the the london tower blocks lmao at that happening tho communism bitch posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40318674 this is a risky tack, the best way for the economy to improve was to not brexit, which the conservatives will own for the rest of time
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Jun 18, 2017 21:51
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The Sheffield to Manchester slow train on a match day would like it's poo poo train of the year crown back.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:53
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Jun 18, 2017 21:55
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also i got the train over the pennines at 5 or 6 on a friday once and it was like being on the tokyo subway
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Jun 18, 2017 21:56
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The 7:20 stopper from Reading to Paddington would be fit to bursting by the time I needed to jump on at Burnham to go to Slough, quite why FGW thought a two car train was enough for a commuter service I don't know
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Jun 18, 2017 21:58
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communism bitch posted:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40318674 Less than a week if this speech fails. A few weeks if it doesn't. It's going to be loving funny to see who they appoint leader either way, given that Hammond is a charisma vaccum, Bojo is a liability, Gove is a human-shaped jelly, Rudd only scraped in with a gnat's pube amount of votes, and all the rest are absolute loving monsters.
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XMNN posted:do they still have pacers Yes, my commute involves one. If I do get a seat, it's bad back central for the rest of the day. Am so glad Northern Rail still makes a tidy profit year on year.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:59
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learnincurve posted:The Sheffield to Manchester slow train on a match day would like it's poo poo train of the year crown back. Was two hours late to an interview but on the plus side I got to learn about all the fun place names in Cheshire.
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lol at all you train whiners. I lived through the 2016 strikes motherfuckers. I've seen some poo poo. I've smelled some armpits.
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