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Matrix/Linda ain't got poo poo on the Summers family.
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Rhyno posted:Matrix/Linda ain't got poo poo on the Summers family. They're all clones or children of Jean and/or Scott, it's not that complicated. If there was some alternate universe poo poo involving Scott hooking up with Polaris or Havok having any kids at all or a Jean/Logan universe that had kids, it'd be a different story. Did they ever do a thing where Magneto/Rogue's kid from age of Apocalypse grew up?
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Jun 18, 2017 01:12
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A version was in Exiles, I think.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:17
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Mr. Maltose posted:A version was in Exiles, I think. Yeah, he just went by Magnus. I think he died in the first arc.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:17
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Actually thinking about it, kinda disappointed there isn't a time displaced kid whose grandparents are Havok, Polaris, Logan and Jean. And their mutant abilities are really awesome, but completely unrelated to any of those four. (Fake edit, someone should retcon that into being Hope's backstory).
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Jun 18, 2017 01:40
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Skwirl posted:Actually thinking about it, kinda disappointed there isn't a time displaced kid whose grandparents are Havok, Polaris, Logan and Jean. And their mutant abilities are really awesome, but completely unrelated to any of those four. (Fake edit, someone should retcon that into being Hope's backstory). Let's not encourage people to write about Hope.
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Jun 18, 2017 01:55
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Lurdiak posted:Let's not encourage people to write about Hope. There's no way on earth you think Hope is the worst X-Men character. And at least she has vaguely defined powers, there's so many characters whose powers amount to "and then energy, sometimes they can fly, sometimes attacking them makes them stronger."
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Jun 18, 2017 02:23
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I don't think she's the worst, and I'm sure someone could make her interesting, but she's pretty terrible, and adds to the ridiculously long list of Phoenix hosts who look way too much like Jean. I find vaguely defined powers to be a negative, because it encourages asspulls.
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Jun 18, 2017 03:03
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Maybe the bird just likes redheads, why does it have to be complicated?
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Jun 18, 2017 03:36
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At this point we all might be clones of Jean/Scott. Push me too far and I will become... DARK TRAUMA! 
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Jun 18, 2017 05:11
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Bobulus posted:Here you go. Context: In this world, everyone has some sort of superpower. Several people with teleportation abilities got into a grisly traffic accident and there wasn't anything the medics could do but wait for them to die. The human is an Adam Strange type, the big horse guy is a knight in a cosmic chess game. You're the best, thanks!
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Jun 18, 2017 05:40
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Bobulus posted:Here you go. Context: In this world, everyone has some sort of superpower. Several people with teleportation abilities got into a grisly traffic accident and there wasn't anything the medics could do but wait for them to die. The human is an Adam Strange type, the big horse guy is a knight in a cosmic chess game. I was so mad when True Detectives plagiarized this line because it's such a goddamn great line.
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Jun 18, 2017 05:50
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Please post more Top Ten, it looks like a cool series and I have never heard of it before. Some body positivity from All New Wolverine #21 
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Jun 18, 2017 06:28
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Sold. Replace Laura with Wade.
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Jun 18, 2017 06:32
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Would someone mind explaining the little girl? Based on that page alone, I'm 100% on board, but what's the story there?
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Jun 18, 2017 06:55
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Deadpool but with six nipples original character do not steal The girl is a little even tinier clone of Wolverine. I think?
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Jun 18, 2017 06:55
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haitfais posted:Would someone mind explaining the little girl? Based on that page alone, I'm 100% on board, but what's the story there? Clone of Laura, doesn't feel pain, raised in a lab with several other clones of Laura, all the others died in the first arc or two of All New Wolverine. Has a pet wolverine because Squirrel Girl brought one over as a housewarming gift.
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Jun 18, 2017 06:59
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Rhyno posted:Sold. Replace Laura with Wade. Never let Wade die like he should have in the 90s
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Jun 18, 2017 07:00
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Skwirl posted:Clone of Laura, doesn't feel pain, raised in a lab with several other clones of Laura, all the others died in the first arc or two of All New Wolverine. Has a pet wolverine because Squirrel Girl brought one over as a housewarming gift. Amazing.
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Jun 18, 2017 07:09
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Skwirl posted:Clone of Laura, doesn't feel pain, raised in a lab with several other clones of Laura, all the others died in the first arc or two of All New Wolverine. Has a pet wolverine because Squirrel Girl brought one over as a housewarming gift. Honestly I'm surprised they haven't done more Squirrel Girl/New Wolverine crossovers, they'd make a great duo(plus any opportunity for Doreen to appear in a book that isn't drawn by the artist for her own book is a good thing)
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Jun 18, 2017 07:15
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It's clones all the way down.
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Jun 18, 2017 16:02
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly I'm surprised they haven't done more Squirrel Girl/New Wolverine crossovers, they'd make a great duo(plus any opportunity for Doreen to appear in a book that isn't drawn by the artist for her own book is a good thing) I agree. Laura should show up in Squirrel Girl. Jubilee can return to explain that Laura's claws don't actually go "snikt", it's her making the sound.
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Jun 18, 2017 16:11
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Bobulus posted:Here you go. Context: In this world, everyone has some sort of superpower. Several people with teleportation abilities got into a grisly traffic accident and there wasn't anything the medics could do but wait for them to die. The human is an Adam Strange type, the big horse guy is a knight in a cosmic chess game. Sometimes I reread a scene I loved when I was younger and it's hokey bullshit. But Top Ten and Astro City both just get better and better with age.
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Jun 18, 2017 17:01
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Bobulus posted:Here you go. Context: In this world, everyone has some sort of superpower. Several people with teleportation abilities got into a grisly traffic accident and there wasn't anything the medics could do but wait for them to die. The human is an Adam Strange type, the big horse guy is a knight in a cosmic chess game. Those two pages... When I first read them I was still in the process of letting go of someone very close to me who had died horribly. I read those and it was like a dam had broken. Just now, seeing them for the first time since then, the same thing happened. My reaction was surprising, but not necessarily a bad thing. These two pages will always be painfully beautiful to me.
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Jun 18, 2017 20:20
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Open Marriage Night posted:I agree. Laura should show up in Squirrel Girl. Jubilee can return to explain that Laura's claws don't actually go "snikt", it's her making the sound. See the thing is for the most part I'm completely fine with the writing for Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, but the art is just plain awful
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Jun 18, 2017 21:18
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Evil Mastermind posted:The whole thesis statement of the comic is "superpower guys bad, non-powered people who don't suck up to Batman lame, Batman awesome". Are there any panels or stories where Batman gets taken down a peg / gets his rear end kicked / gets called out on his poo poo / generally made to look like an idiot? Because I'd love to see those. The only one I can think of is when Bane broke his back, but I'm not a huge Batman reader.
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Jun 18, 2017 23:32
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Are there any panels or stories where Batman gets taken down a peg / gets his rear end kicked / gets called out on his poo poo / generally made to look like an idiot? Because I'd love to see those. The only one I can think of is when Bane broke his back, but I'm not a huge Batman reader.  not sure which one and it's not exactly heartwarming but it's a classic
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Jun 19, 2017 00:56
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rumble in the bunghole posted:
looks like Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia by Greg Rucka. Don't know the artist off hand
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Jun 19, 2017 01:13
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The art is by JG Jones. The premise of the book is that Batman is hunting a young woman because she killed someone, but that woman had supplicated herself to Wonder Woman in a ritual called the Hiketeia (just the ancient Greek word for supplication), which made Wonder Woman ritually bound to protect her from anyone, including Batman. It's a pretty rad book.
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Jun 19, 2017 03:46
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flosofl posted:Those two pages... When I first read them I was still in the process of letting go of someone very close to me who had died horribly. I read those and it was like a dam had broken. I made the mistake of reading the part of the Deadpool storyline "The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly" where Wade finds the dead mother of his child in a pile of corpses maybe 2 months after my girlfriend died. I wouldn't recommend doing that. Although it's an all-time classic storyline, it's Wade's equivalent of the Elektra saga. But holy poo poo did I cry a lot reading that trade. Gerry Duggan is a really good writer.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:02
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Infinitum posted:Please post more Top Ten, it looks like a cool series and I have never heard of it before. We can't post all twelve issues in their entirety. Just read it, it's loving wonderful. "Yes,loving is wonderful. And you and I, I fear we will not be loving any more."
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Jun 19, 2017 11:52
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Skwirl posted:They're all clones or children of Jean and/or Scott, it's not that complicated. If there was some alternate universe poo poo involving Scott hooking up with Polaris or Havok having any kids at all or a Jean/Logan universe that had kids, it'd be a different story. There is one now (Spider-Man: Renew Your Vows). So now he's on the tree. Which means now it's even more complex! Case in point: Skwirl posted:Clone of Laura, doesn't feel pain, raised in a lab with several other clones of Laura, all the others died in the first arc or two of All New Wolverine. Has a pet wolverine because Squirrel Girl brought one over as a housewarming gift.
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Jun 19, 2017 13:11
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Are there any panels or stories where Batman gets taken down a peg / gets his rear end kicked / gets called out on his poo poo / generally made to look like an idiot? Because I'd love to see those. The only one I can think of is when Bane broke his back, but I'm not a huge Batman reader. That covers pretty much all appearances by Batman during the 90's to be honest, culminating in the terrible Bruce Wayne: Fugitive story. He was xenophobic, abusive, distrusting and all around rear end. I think it started to get obnoxious after Morrisons JLA Bats. He portrayed Batman as that hypercompetent coworker who's supergood at his job and expects you to be so too, and doesn't have the patience to humor you if you gently caress up or say stupid poo poo. Lesser writers kind of interpreted that as him being an rear end in a top hat and just ran it into the ground, so you had comics where he's deriding Martian Manhunters detective skills (for no loving reason at all) and where he goes on semi-racist tirades against metas, and that's not even covering the dumb poo poo he does to the Bat team. Having said that, if ya'll are gonna be posting panels not relating to the thread title , please do so in the appropriate threads i.e Not in here. If nothing else, there's the "request a panel " thread that exists for this purpose Tia!
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Jun 19, 2017 13:54
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CityMidnightJunky posted:Are there any panels or stories where Batman gets taken down a peg / gets his rear end kicked / gets called out on his poo poo / generally made to look like an idiot? Because I'd love to see those. The only one I can think of is when Bane broke his back, but I'm not a huge Batman reader. My favorite, which I mentioned a page or two back, is I think OMAC Project #2 during the time when Batman was at his most insufferable. Don't have the panels on me at the moment, but the background is that Blue Beetle was investigating some robbery of some kryptonite his company had and how it was leading to some kind of bigger conspiracy. Batman was too busy obsessing over the new Red Hood and told him to gently caress off. The only people who didn't treat Ted like a joke were Wonder Woman and Booster Gold. Booster even seemed to realize that Beetle was fated to die because he tried to "take the bullet" (which he apparently tried to do for Superman when he initially threw hands with Doomsday back in the day) and ended up hospitalized. Still, Beetle ended up getting shot in the head, jumpstarting the Infinite Crisis event. Next thing you know, Booster was picked up at the hospital by Wonder Woman so the two of them and Superman could hear news of Ted's whereabouts from Batman. Batman explained that the Brother Eye satellite was stolen from him, pulled out Beetle's broken goggles and says that Beetle was investigating said conspiracy. Booster lost his poo poo and, paraphrasing, yelled, "You son of a bitch! Ted went to you from the beginning! He went to you and you knew what he was up against and you did nothing! YOU GOT HIM KILLED!" while trying to outright vaporize Batman. The only thing stopping it was Superman dashing in the way. Superman said blame would be placed later, but Booster scoffed because of course Batman would never be punished.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:57
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Gavok posted:My favorite, which I mentioned a page or two back, is I think OMAC Project #2 during the time when Batman was at his most insufferable... No joke, Countdown to Infinite Crisis and OMAC Project were the 2 books that got me into Booster Gold/Blue Beetle and sold me on DC comics in general. It was so cool seeing amazing seeing Booster (who I was vaguely familiar with) call out Batman for being such a sanctimonious rear end in a top hat, especially after seeing him in his worst "I have a plan for everything and am super awesome" mode after reading Hush not long before. It was all the more heartwrenching reading the JLI, Fornerly Known As, and I Can't Believe It's Not later knowing how that turned out in the end. Edit: it still bothers me that Batman didn't ever get called out on all that, all that ended up happening was he got to take a quick trip around the world and somehow magically became less of a jerk when he got back. good day for a bris fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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Jun 20, 2017 00:55
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Honestly I always assumed Batman becoming less of a dick after Infinite Crisis was one of the subtle reality alterations that occurred due to Superboy Prime punching space-time and/or the subsequent rebirth of the Multiverse
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Jun 20, 2017 01:03
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drrockso20 posted:Honestly I always assumed Batman becoming less of a dick after Infinite Crisis was one of the subtle reality alterations that occurred due to Superboy Prime punching space-time and/or the subsequent rebirth of the Multiverse No, when I said magically become less of a dick I meant it literally. Morrison used a modern version of the 10 Eyed Man and Batman did some weird ritual to purge the assholery from his soul in the middle of the desert during 52 (unless I'm remembering wrong).
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Jun 20, 2017 01:20
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good day for a bris posted:No, when I said magically become less of a dick I meant it literally. Morrison used a modern version of the 10 Eyed Man and Batman did some weird ritual to purge the assholery from his soul in the middle of the desert during 52 (unless I'm remembering wrong). I'll admit I never finished 52 cause I wasn't a fan of the tone in several of the portions of it
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Jun 20, 2017 01:23
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He went to burning man?
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Jedit posted:We can't post all twelve issues in their entirety. Just read it, it's loving wonderful. There was more than 12 issues. There's the spinoffs "The Forty-Niners" (which is a pretty great prequel book) and the Smax mini which is also good, and the whole "Beyond the Farthest Precinct" sequel series that is...not terrible, but not as good as the original run.
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