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Praga LTL and Pzw 39 Queue: T-60 production in difficult years, T-60 tanks produced at Stalingrad, big guns for the KV-1, 122 mm howitzer for the T-34 and KV, A1E1 Independent, PzI Ausf. B, PzI Ausf. C, PzI Ausf. F, Renault FT, Maus in the USSR, 76 mm gun mod of the Matilda, M4A2(76)W, PzII Ausf. a though b, PzII Ausf. c through C, PzII Ausf. D through E, PzII Ausf. F, PzII trials in the USSR, Field modifications to American tanks, Israeli improvised armoured cars, Trials of the TKS and C2P in the USSR, Polish 37 mm anti-tank gun, T-37 with ShKAS, Wartime modifications of the T-37 and T-38, SG-122, Tank destroyers on the T-30 and T-40 chassis, 45 mm M-42 gun, SU-76 prototype, ZIK-7 and other light SPG designs, SU-26/T-26-6, SU-122 precursors, SU-122 competitors, Light Tank M5, Tankbuchse 41, PzVII Lowe, Marder II, Tiger #114, Chrysler K, Swedish tanks 1928–1934, Pak 97/38, 7.5 cm Pak 41, Czechoslovakian post-war prototypes, Praga AH-IV, Chaffee trials in the USSR, KV-1S, KV-13, s.FH. 18, Strv 81 and Strv 101 Available for request:   Matilda   L-10 and L-30 Strv m/40 Strv m/42 Landsverk prototypes 1943-1951 Strv m/21 Strv m/41     
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Danann posted:My experience in Steel Division, for what it's worth, is that the German cats are obnoxious to deal with especially if properly supported and on the defense. It's easier to deal with them as the Commonwealth divisions (but then you'll be cursing the existence of the PIAT when the guy using it dumps all his ammo at the target and fails to kill it) except for the King Tiger that always inevitably appears. Christ nobody cares how a tank is modeled in a video game.
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Hi guys! Are you going to be under orders for Britain in the near future? Well then, you'll certainly require this informational picture about How to Behave in Britain and not give THE UNITED STATES ARMY a bad name! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltVtnCzg9xw
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Trin Tragula posted:Hi guys! Are you going to be under orders for Britain in the near future? Well then, you'll certainly require this informational picture about How to Behave in Britain and not give THE UNITED STATES ARMY a bad name! Here's some documentation my grandfather received towards the end of his service on how to behave in polite society again:   
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limp_cheese posted:These are brats. They're basically bratwurst. You soak them in some beer, usually Budweiser or Miller because midwest America, on the stove after they are cooked. Hi. Midwesterner here to tell you this man knows his poo poo. Only thing I would add is you can also just dump the brats in a pot full of beer and just up and put that on the stove. But the above method is great for tailgates, of which midwesterners - especially Wisconsinites - are pros.
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Trin Tragula posted:Hi guys! Are you going to be under orders for Britain in the near future? Well then, you'll certainly require this informational picture about How to Behave in Britain and not give THE UNITED STATES ARMY a bad name! 25 minutes into this is incredible.
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Thanks for doing these, I've been enjoying them. Out of curiosity, how are you able to get your hands on this stuff? It's not every day you meet someone with such a wealth of Russian sources regarding tanks.
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EggsAisle posted:Thanks for doing these, I've been enjoying them. Out of curiosity, how are you able to get your hands on this stuff? It's not every day you meet someone with such a wealth of Russian sources regarding tanks. I believe these are translations of http://yuripasholok.livejournal.com He is historian / archive rat employed by Wargaming, which makes the arcade tanks game "World of Tanks". There is a demand for more or less accurately represented tanks in the game, so he provides the raw data which is mangled into pixel tanks.
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Maimgara posted:I believe these are translations of http://yuripasholok.livejournal.com Hmmm how many hp does a tiger have?
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Marxist-Jezzinist posted:Hmmm how many hp does a tiger have? 4 or 5 hit dice, iirc
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Phanatic posted:Here's some documentation my grandfather received towards the end of his service on how to behave in polite society again: Lol that's awesome.
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Squalid posted:Lol that's awesome. You do realize these are very old joke and not official Army papers?
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EggsAisle posted:Thanks for doing these, I've been enjoying them. Out of curiosity, how are you able to get your hands on this stuff? It's not every day you meet someone with such a wealth of Russian sources regarding tanks. The articles I link here are written for Warspot, mostly by Yuri Pasholok, but sometimes there are other authors whose material falls within my area of interest. The other documents come from various sources. Some come from Pasholok's livejournal, which Maimgara linked to, others come from other livejournals (for some reason Russians still cling to LJ) and online repositories. There are quite a few that are surprisingly decent, even though the majority are horrible UX abominations that should never be used by mortal men. My favourite of those would have to be the Soviet occupation force archives, which require Java and only give you the first page of each document. It took me a while to figure out that the converter they use expects me to manually add URL parameters to get more pages.
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Ensign Expendable posted:livejournals (for some reason Russians still cling to LJ) Wait, livejournal still exists? For a more on topic question: I walked by an updated (I think) Chicago rat prevention sign that now included maintaining bird feeders to be rodent proof. Which made me think--how much did military camps, bases, sieges, etc, care about eradicating excess food and waste to prevent rats? Before germ theory it's still reasonable to discourage vermin but how important was it and how did people do it? Obviously this varies wildly based on location and era but I'd love to hear examples across the spectrum. e: I know people weren't complete idiots (well, at least on a comparable level of today) so I'm looking for measures beyond things like don't poo poo in the well. Pontius Pilate fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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SimonCat posted:You do realize these are very old joke and not official Army papers? I understand the instructions for army approved etiquette when soliciting women for sex make it a bit ambiguous, but yes other than that it's obviously a joke.
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Pontius Pilate posted:e: I know people weren't complete idiots (well, at least on a comparable level of today) so I'm looking for measures beyond things like don't poo poo in the well. You say this but that idea took a disturbingly long time to catch on.
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Pontius Pilate posted:Wait, livejournal still exists? It does but is largely Russian language now because LJ complied with Russian laws on censoring/reporting LGBT+ blogs, causing a mass exodus of the remaining english language users
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Phanatic posted:Here's some documentation my grandfather received towards the end of his service on how to behave in polite society again: If you told me that they found a Fw: Fw: Fw: type document in fuckin cuneiform I would not bat an eye. Bureaucrats. Bureaucrats never change. This is kinda grim: quote:http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/06/17/hard-hit-marine-unit-from-vietnam-war-celebrates-50th-reunion.html Wonder how many NVA junior officer cadres hit 50% casualties. aphid_licker fucked around with this message at 12:54 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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GotLag posted:You say this but that idea took a disturbingly long time to catch on. I know some people in the peace corps and apparently there are parts of the world where they still haven't completely figured that out
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This is a picture of a Philippine Army armored vehicle operating in Marawi, Mindanao against the militant Maute Group  As far as I know, they're Cadillac Gage Commando V-150s. My question is, are those wooden planks actually going to be effective against anti-tank ordnance? I assume armored cars are already supposed to be fairly resistant against small arms fire, and this feels very "sandbags and concrete on a Sherman" to me, but what do I know.
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gradenko_2000 posted:This is a picture of a Philippine Army armored vehicle operating in Marawi, Mindanao against the militant Maute Group
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No, it won't do anything versus any real AT ordnance, be it HEAT or kinetic, wood is not enough to disturb AT projectiles meaningfully and there is no space behind it for the projectile to rotate/disperse in, so it won't work as spaced armor. It may help versus small arms, as rifle caliber machineguns can threaten something like the V-150 from the side if loaded with AP rounds, at least at close range.
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Ainsley McTree posted:I know some people in the peace corps and apparently there are parts of the world where they still haven't completely figured that out Germany's vaunted technological know-how didn't extend to field latrines, at least in north Africa. quote:In 1944 Colonel H. S. Gear, an assistant director of hygiene in the Middle East, claimed in the British Medical Journal that enemy defensive localities were: "obvious from the amount of faeces lying on the sufrace of the ground . . . This contempt for hygiene became such a menace to the enemy as to affect from 40 to 50 percent of his front-line troops, as interrogation of captured medical officers revealed."
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Normal rifle rounds blast through a 2x4 as if it wasn't there. Id be shocked if it slowed down AP enough to matter
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Cyrano4747 posted:Normal rifle rounds blast through a 2x4 as if it wasn't there. Id be shocked if it slowed down AP enough to matter HEAT penetration falls off with the standoff distance being wrong, but I think most HEAT rounds actually detonate later than optimum because the contactor with the fuse on the end of it would be impractically long if they were to detonate at the optimum distance, so to the extent a 2x4 set off a HEAT round early it might enhance penetration.
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GotLag posted:Germany's vaunted technological know-how didn't extend to field latrines, at least in north Africa. That would explain why that guy whose diary was posted earlier was sick all the drat time.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Normal rifle rounds blast through a 2x4 as if it wasn't there. Id be shocked if it slowed down AP enough to matter Yeah it's not going to be a massive help but light armor is only marginally vulnerable to AP rifle rounds, so the little bit of energy lost in the wood layer may very well make the difference, especially if it can start stripping the lead jacket over the AP core. Phanatic posted:HEAT penetration falls off with the standoff distance being wrong, but I think most HEAT rounds actually detonate later than optimum because the contactor with the fuse on the end of it would be impractically long if they were to detonate at the optimum distance, so to the extent a 2x4 set off a HEAT round early it might enhance penetration. Yeah modern HEAT rounds have optimal standoff distances on the order of one meter or more, just detonating it further does more harm than good. But then again spaced armor isn't just about distance, it's about perturbating the projectile and then letting it have the space and time to dissipate/rotate before you hit the main armor. No such component here.
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quote:German sources also indicate that their sanitary services were in a state of disarray due to the lack of co-operation between medical personnel and the officers of the armoured divisions, who regarded sanitary matters as beneath them.  What was it about the Axis that made them so hopeless at dealing with inter-service rivalry? My impression is that none of the Allied nations suffered anywhere near as badly from it. GotLag fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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The PzIII actually had a pretty nice padded poop hole. I guess the trick is to not use it while you're still at the base.
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Ensign Expendable posted:The PzIII actually had a pretty nice padded poop hole. I guess the trick is to not use it while you're still at the base. Like those old-fashioned railway carriages with the signs saying "don't poo poo while the train is at a station"
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GotLag posted:
Short version? Political leaders who carved out services as their own fiefdoms and needed their pet branch to be covered in glory or not take losses or get the bestest equipment or whatever due to political concerns. GotLag posted:Like those old-fashioned railway carriages with the signs saying "don't poo poo while the train is at a station" gently caress d fashioned, I've ridden in ones like that in the last ten years.
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scientists uncover a soldier's request for booze from 2,600 years ago https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/16/science/send-more-wine-pottery-archaeology.html?smid=tw-nytimesscience&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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So I'm writing an essay on public criticism (or really lack thereof) of the US military and while sifting through news articles looking for quotes, I opened this page and started reading it without looking very closely at the header. After struggling through the first paragraph and literally saying out loud "what the gently caress is this?" I looked at the date.
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HEY GAIL posted:scientists uncover a soldier's request for booze from 2,600 years ago Well? Did they??
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Out of curiosity, how much do we know about warfare in Oceania pre-European contact? Are there any books you guys could point me towards? I am intrigued since most wargames I know tend to skip over the region (I was surprised when Fields of Glory added a Maori/Hawaiian army list), and Wikipedia doesn't have much.
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GotLag posted:What was it about the Axis that made them so hopeless at dealing with inter-service rivalry? My impression is that none of the Allied nations suffered anywhere near as badly from it. Cyrano4747 posted:Short version? Political leaders who carved out services as their own fiefdoms and needed their pet branch to be covered in glory or not take losses or get the bestest equipment or whatever due to political concerns. What he said. Somebody wise in this thread quipped "the British and the Americans cooperated more closely than the Kriegsmarine and the Luftwaffe" and it is true. Cooperation is a difficult thing when it has to be imposed from above instead of enmeshed in everything you do. Today at the library I scored a interesting discard: Guadalcanal by Richard B. Frank. Please tell me if it is awful, but it has an endorsement from Tom Clancy on the back cover, so I assume it is cool.
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aphid_licker posted:Wonder how many NVA junior officer cadres hit 50% casualties. If I had to take a guess, all of them. Americans talking about how awful the Vietnam war are certainly correct because it was a terrible experience, but try checking things out from the other side.
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Ok, so this might be a bit of a controversial question, but what was the extent of Polish cooperation in the Holocaust? Most other countries had at least some of their population that were complicit in helping the Germans carry out the Holocaust, but Poland has built up this huge reputation as resisting it. Is this true?
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Well, the certainly had opinions about excrement and executive officers: "The General inspecting the trenches Exclaimed with a horrified shout 'I refuse to command a division Which leaves its excreta about.' But nobody took any notice No one was prepared to refute, That the presence of poo poo was congenial Compared to the presence of Shute. And certain responsible critics Made haste to reply to his words Observing that his staff advisors Consisted entirely of turds. For poo poo may be shot at odd corners And paper supplied there to suit, But a poo poo would be shot without mourners If somebody shot that poo poo Shute."
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Mycroft Holmes posted:Ok, so this might be a bit of a controversial question, but what was the extent of Polish cooperation in the Holocaust? Most other countries had at least some of their population that were complicit in helping the Germans carry out the Holocaust, but Poland has built up this huge reputation as resisting it. Is this true? Kind of, Antisemitism was fairly common in all europe, as it had been throughout history so it was unnavoidable there would be some collaboration. When the Germans invaded the Poles were as culpable as many other countries in helping the Germans identify jews, the railroad workers helped to deport Jews, the Police helped them to round up Jews. I believe that there were also a significant number of events of Poles acting under German orders to form groups that murdered Jews under orders or possibly even spontaneously knowing that they were likely to escape punishment or even win the favour of the German occcupiers, ultimately something like 90% of the Jewish population of poland died and that would not have been possible without some measure of collaboration from the locals. However conversely, the Polish resistance was a really large thing, i believe the largest of the WW2 resistance movements and they did specifically try to help Jews escape and had the Zegota committee (Council to aid Jews) as part of it and helped a significant quantity of Jews to escape. The Germans did also formally implement the death penalty for aiding Jews in Poland that i dont think they did anywhere else, certainly not in the west anyway, which to me indicates they viewed Polish attempts to save Jews as more prevalent than they were elsewhere. They certainly werent enthusiastic collaborators like the Hungarian state was for example, and living under Nazi occupation forced collaboration in rounding up the Jews from every single country that they occupied and as a result nobodys hands are clean on the matter, I would say they were more resistant than most but they could not avoid complicity and it would have been impossible to expect that they would.
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