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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jfc

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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Skinty McEdger posted:

The mail's headline:

"White van driver injures at least 10 people after ploughing into a crowd outside hate cleric Abu Hamza's former mosque in London's Finsbury Park as Muslims finish evening prayers"

"These muzzies just don't want to integrate!"

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

VileLL posted:

pretty sure that was just a rumour on the day, doesn't seem it would be possible to have more than one/two counts in the time prior to the result being released

It's pretty easy, actually. Tallying the votes is what takes the time; dividing them by candidate is fairly rapid. For example, on the Banff and Buchan count my team tallied seven boxes for a total of around 2800 votes (we worked fast and got five in a row right first time). This started with postal votes at the stroke of 10 and finished at around 2am including a break for food and a period while we waited for the last of the station boxes to arrive. We then divided five sets of 500 votes in less than two hours. Hastings and Rye evidently use way more staff than we do - we use 80 per constituency, they probably use twice that - so they finished faster and could thus recount faster.

It's also faster still to verify piles than to count them the first time, because all you need to do is count the bundles and make sure there's 100 in each and that they're all for the same candidate. A variance of at least 400 in 55000 votes would be pretty unusual though; it suggests that over half the bundles were wrong. I'd say that was a sign of slackness on their part.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Skinty McEdger posted:

The mail's headline:

"White van driver injures at least 10 people after ploughing into a crowd outside hate cleric Abu Hamza's former mosque in London's Finsbury Park as Muslims finish evening prayers"

gently caress i thought you were making that up

hahaha

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Was the van white or the driver white or both?

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
I don't know that I want to read the news any more. Can someone please just let me know when the government collapses?

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

OwlFancier posted:

Was the van white or the driver white or both?

How many mentions have you seen of terrorism in the news?

another quiet loving gardener

need to be putting tabs on local homebases at this rate

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
BBC can't be arsed to follow this one closely. Surprise.

Apraxin
Feb 22, 2006

General-Admiral
^^^
Graun has a liveblog up, at least.

Not that it isn't sickening, but that account's the far-right equivalent of ISIS Twitter - open pro-Nazi tweets and denunciations of race mixing. No-one who's not already balls-deep in their crazy ideology is gonna be anything but repulsed by it.

The dog-whistle poo poo like that Mail report worries me a lot more.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Emily Thornberry was right.

Saint Isaias Boner
Jan 17, 2007

hi how are you

Apraxin posted:

^^^
Graun has a liveblog up, at least.

Not that it isn't sickening, but that account's the far-right equivalent of ISIS Twitter - open pro-Nazi tweets and denunciations of race mixing. No-one who's not already balls-deep in their crazy ideology is gonna be anything but repulsed by it.

The dog-whistle poo poo like that Mail report worries me a lot more.

par for the course for twitter really, they have a lot of straight-up nazis posting there

there's also a livestream for some reason which you can watch if you want to see a bunch of cops standing in front of a fleet of cop cars and looking a bit put out

https://www.pscp.tv/XHNews/1dRKZALDZLzxB

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Skinty McEdger posted:

The mail's headline:

"White van driver injures at least 10 people after ploughing into a crowd outside hate cleric Abu Hamza's former mosque in London's Finsbury Park as Muslims finish evening prayers"

So this was like the British Muslim version of the Westboro Baptist Church?

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Watching the CNN international coverage, where so far they have established that they can't work out what could have been the drivers motivation, but have stressed that the area is not known to be a tourist area.

Somehow still better than the BBC news channel that isn't covering it at all at the moment.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Guy Goodbody posted:

So this was like the British Muslim version of the Westboro Baptist Church?

It's a mosque in Corbyn's precint of London

think more Harlem ghetto church. A couple of radicalised fundamentalists used to speak at the street corner.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Even the Australian coverage is poo poo. We can say what the motivation would be for these Muslims to be run down outside their mosque

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

Spangly A posted:

It's a mosque in Corbyn's precint of London

think more Harlem ghetto church. A couple of radicalised fundamentalists used to speak at the street corner.

That's being a bit generous. I'm pretty sure it's still Salafists if I'm thinking of the right mosque.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Time for a much-needed Perspective From the States

*ahem* leans into mic

This just goes to show, if only some of those mosque attendees had been carrying guns

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Standard is reporting the driver stabbed at least one person and was trying to do "a london bridge" thing before he got dogpiled by the crowd.

Pershing
Feb 21, 2010

John "Black Jack" Pershing
Hard Fucking Core

Discendo Vox posted:

Time for a much-needed Perspective From the States

*ahem* leans into mic

This just goes to show, if only some of those mosque attendees had been carrying guns

I dont think we want to be arming Britons after the week they just had.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Skinty McEdger posted:

Standard is reporting the driver stabbed at least one person and was trying to do "a london bridge" thing before he got dogpiled by the crowd.

This is the problem with a terror methodology that pretty much anyone can do.

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

Pershing posted:

I dont think we want to be arming Britons after the week they just had.

Why not?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Might get more incidents like this one, only with actual fatalities (and a hell of a lot of them, at that).

Never trust the British public to point their anger in the right direction.

Also, the suicide rate would probably go way, way up, because having a heavily-armed populace does that.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
I promise, I was joking. That's the stock NRA response over here.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
While mine pointed out the disconnect between what the GOP says to block legislation vs. the tank and file reaction to buy more guns.

VileLL
Oct 3, 2015


Jedit posted:

It's pretty easy, actually. Tallying the votes is what takes the time; dividing them by candidate is fairly rapid. For example, on the Banff and Buchan count my team tallied seven boxes for a total of around 2800 votes (we worked fast and got five in a row right first time). This started with postal votes at the stroke of 10 and finished at around 2am including a break for food and a period while we waited for the last of the station boxes to arrive. We then divided five sets of 500 votes in less than two hours. Hastings and Rye evidently use way more staff than we do - we use 80 per constituency, they probably use twice that - so they finished faster and could thus recount faster.

It's also faster still to verify piles than to count them the first time, because all you need to do is count the bundles and make sure there's 100 in each and that they're all for the same candidate. A variance of at least 400 in 55000 votes would be pretty unusual though; it suggests that over half the bundles were wrong. I'd say that was a sign of slackness on their part.

oh, that's pretty cool, good to have the info

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Pershing posted:

Trivia: this apparently is the favorite film of Trace Beaulieu of MST3K fame, he even has a copy of the soundtrack signed by Peter O'Toole.

It's a good movie.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Guardian reporting the van had three people in it, two legged it but one got grabbed by civilians and held down until the police arrived.

Looks like it wasn't an accident

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Skinty McEdger posted:

Standard is reporting the driver stabbed at least one person and was trying to do "a london bridge" thing before he got dogpiled by the crowd.

:lol: imagine being so bad at terrorism you get your arse handed to you by your targets. Fuckin thumbs giving us white people a bad name. Not only evil, but incompetent.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Any word on who the suspects are?

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Al-Saqr posted:

Any word on who the suspects are?

There's video of the arrested suspect being loaded in the police van that Sky is showing on a loop. Middle aged white guy, looking not unlike a thumb with a bad wig.

Standard's reporting that the rental van he was driving is registered to Pontaclun Van Hire in Wales.

tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Skinty McEdger posted:

Middle aged white guy, looking not unlike a thumb with a bad wig.

Standard's reporting that the rental van he was driving is registered to Pontaclun Van Hire in Wales.

That's offensive to thumbs.

Compare him to a scrotum

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Skinty McEdger posted:

Middle aged white guy, looking not unlike a thumb with a bad wig.

Standard's reporting that the rental van he was driving is registered to Pontaclun Van Hire in Wales.

So it's Welsh separatists.

Killed By Death
Jun 29, 2013


Mister Adequate posted:

:lol: imagine being so bad at terrorism you get your arse handed to you by your targets. Fuckin thumbs giving us white people a bad name. Not only evil, but incompetent.
Didn't even make a fake bomb vest, shameful. This is the problem with white English terrorists, no work ethic.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Killed By Death posted:

Didn't even make a fake bomb vest, shameful. This is the problem with white English terrorists, no work ethic.

Plus they lack the luck of the Irish.


I'll see myself out now.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Mister Adequate posted:

:lol: imagine being so bad at terrorism you get your arse handed to you by your targets. Fuckin thumbs giving us white people a bad name. Not only evil, but incompetent.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Glasgow_Airport_attack

EDIT: Love how we both thought of the same thing.

Extreme0 fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Jun 19, 2017

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Mister Adequate posted:

:lol: imagine being so bad at terrorism you get your arse handed to you by your targets. Fuckin thumbs giving us white people a bad name. Not only evil, but incompetent.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Why haven't white community leaders condemned this attack?

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

I would blow Dane Cook posted:

Why haven't white community leaders condemned this attack?

The perpetrator's identity hasn't been confirmed yet

bawk
Mar 31, 2013

Discendo Vox posted:

Time for a much-needed Perspective From the States

*ahem* leans into mic

This just goes to show, if only some of those mosque attendees had been carrying guns

Time for a much-needed Perspective From the States

*ahem* leans into mic

This just goes to show, gun control prevents a dozen dead from being 50 or more, but none of this statement matters, I'm screaming into a carefully crafted void made by the NRA to prevent my voice from being heard because arms companies have a bigger voice than I do in democracy. Furthermore, <GARBLED MIC GAIN BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE NRA>"

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Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Guy Goodbody posted:

The perpetrator's identity hasn't been confirmed yet

Things got a bit tense on the sky coverage earlier, as a bunch of people in the crowd were watching the sky news stream on their phones and were upset with how they were avoiding suggesting that this was a racially motivated attack. They crashed an interview and demanded the reporter tell his bosses that it was a white guy that did it.

Ten minutes later Sky starts showing the guy getting loaded into the van on a loop.

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