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BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Space Crabs posted:

sorry guys but someone banning 5,000 people largely for things like statements she didn't agree with or jokes she didn't think were funny was in fact bad

unpopularforumopinions.txt apparently

"Statements she didn't agree with" sounds a whole lot like "bigoted poo poo"

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Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

Step aside presented themselves as a hardcore TERF cis lady. Picked fights and was just generally an rear end in a top hat for months. Someone on an off site figured out that they were actually some former poster, a person born male who transitioned to female. And then de-transitioned. Never heard why they de-transitioned. Anyway, someone posted a long rear end post proving it in Ladythread, the trans thread, other places. All at once, no hiding it.

Step Aside just never posted again, I think. May have been banned, idk. But for a while, they weren't banned, and didn't address the accusations, which makes it seem likely they were true.

Ozma apparently knew who Step Aside was the entire time (she said so) and people were kind of like "WTF, why did you let them pose as a cis woman when all they did is run down trans people? That whole 'de-transitioned' thing was probably relevent." I don't think Ozma ever said why. I got the impression they were friendly? Just an impression.

See, this is some honestly gross/weird Ozma poo poo that I didn't know about! Tip for Ozma haters: find actual anecdotes like this instead of just "she's female on the Internet a CAT LADY and FAT and PROBABLY AN SJW OR WHATEVER EQUIVALENT MONIKER IS MOST HATED BY GBS GUYS AT THE MOMENT"

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 7 days!
All the stories of goons gaining some degree of notoriety suggests to me that the higher you climb, the further you'll eventually fall. And that mods seem surprisingly self-selecting toward having some skeletons that seem to come back to haunt them.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
I think it's simpler than that, just ask yourself what sort of person would agree to moderate an Internet forum they didn't own...for free? Like, why would you ever? Whatever motivation you could come up with is inherently weird.

Of course this does not include our current active forums staff, hah-hah!!! They are our best and brightest.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:

Ozma apparently also hid a good chunk of step aside's post history after that. Which sucks.

Just imagine "trans women.aren't women, gey boners from playing dress up, and kill themselves. Good job enabling that" over and over and over and over

Only notable thing I can remember now is they (no clue what pronouns they actually prefer) started a "Cis Ladies' Chatting Thread" in response to the original ladythread, "Ladies' Chatting Thread." Because something like 10%-15% of the regulars in ladythread at the time were trans or NB.

It was a massive shitshow and I wish mods had closed it sooner, because it got closed right after I posted about an actual issue worth talking about, and I realized later it could have been misconstrued as me being TERFish. It's probably gone now, I think all Step Aside threads were deleted. Or whatever it's called.

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

100% rolling with the punches, as said already he also namechanged to Frozenpussy because we kept calling him that too

I missed that. Jeez.

Antivehicular posted:

See, this is some honestly gross/weird Ozma poo poo that I didn't know about! Tip for Ozma haters: find actual anecdotes like this instead of just "she's female on the Internet a CAT LADY and FAT and PROBABLY AN SJW OR WHATEVER EQUIVALENT MONIKER IS MOST HATED BY GBS GUYS AT THE MOMENT"

:agreed:

(Also sorry I bailed on Fallen London, Antivehicular, I stopped being an Exceptional Friend and just couldn't cope with the 140+ skills grind and one loving candle. Thanks for dining with me a whole bunch)

MY PALE GOTH SKIN
Nov 28, 2006


meow

Punkin Spunkin posted:

I think it's simpler than that, just ask yourself what sort of person would agree to moderate an Internet forum they didn't own...for free? Like, why would you ever? Whatever motivation you could come up with is inherently weird.

Of course this does not include our current active forums staff, hah-hah!!! They are our best and brightest.

At least two of them have used their "fame" to exploit vulnerable women, which is super gross. Hopefully none of them have done it lately.

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
There's an interesting cross section of TERF and cat lady types. I'm not sure why but it's held consistent in my experience

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.


titties posted:

EPW loving sucked because she closed the PYF boobs thread...

Well of course you would say that.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Samovar posted:

Well of course you would say that.

True, but I'm with him.

I stand with titties.

I Said No
May 21, 2007

jesus dude ur gonna kill someone with that av
the gently caress is a terf?
this is why i feel old as gently caress all the time, i constantly keep finding new terminology i'm just stumped by :wal:

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Trans exclusionary radical feminist. Basically any woman who won't include trans women in feminist issues.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

RFC2324 posted:

Has it occurred to anyone that the closing of this kind of thread coincides with the decline of SA that everyone is trying to reverse?

No.

Menstrual Show
Jun 3, 2004

RFC2324 posted:

Has it occurred to anyone that the closing of this kind of thread coincides with the decline of SA that everyone is trying to reverse?

I know it's been discussed before here, but this reminded me of the old PYF porn threads where there were a group of porn librarians who somehow had an encyclopedic knowledge of streaming porn. Like, somebody would say 'does anyone remember a video we're a blonde girl wearing a pink striped bikini gets railed on a hotel balcony by a dude wearing a red baseball cap?' and within 5 minutes three people would've posted the exact video referenced.

poo poo was uncanny.

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

Menstrual Show posted:

I know it's been discussed before here, but this reminded me of the old PYF porn threads where there were a group of porn librarians who somehow had an encyclopedic knowledge of streaming porn. Like, somebody would say 'does anyone remember a video we're a blonde girl wearing a pink striped bikini gets railed on a hotel balcony by a dude wearing a red baseball cap?' and within 5 minutes three people would've posted the exact video referenced.

poo poo was uncanny.

They're dedicated, I gotta hand it to them.

:haw:

titties
May 10, 2012

They're like two suicide notes stuffed into a glitter bra

They will hand it to themselves if you know what I mean

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

purple death ray posted:

There is no healthy minded human being that would voluntarily moderate these godforsaken forums

RFC2324
Jun 7, 2012

http 418


:thejoke:

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

titties posted:

They will hand it to themselves if you know what I mean

no? explain

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

At least two of them have used their "fame" to exploit vulnerable women, which is super gross. Hopefully none of them have done it lately.
Hmm yeah I don't want to do this but if there are any invulnerable women out there who want a new avatar, you know what to do.

Also ozma was the one pushing back on the whiny slashie-style nonsense. She still didn't like jokes outside of designated joke zones(ruddha getting probated for making fun of that hilarious diaper pooping bdsm thread), which was weird to me, but she wasn't the boogeyman she's presented as. For better or worse she was one of the masterminds behind gbs 2.0. :ohdear:

The step aside thing was bizarre overall but it's good to try and help out users who get doxxed the way she did.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

True, but I'm with him.

I stand with titties.

The only porn thread I really checked out was the butt thread cause butts are great but all I remember about it now was some 2003 poster who would meltdown any time someone would post a dudes butt

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

the only good thing that came out of those threads was when FYAD began trolling them with images of women with the faces blurred or removed or cropped only to show the body parts in the thread title

The Chad Jihad
Feb 24, 2007


Was Ozma the one who wanted to be liked by Fyad and would let people run amok, or is that half-remembered libel

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

RentACop posted:

Was Ozma the one who wanted to be liked by Fyad and would let people run amok, or is that half-remembered libel
The latter. I mean ozma was mostly cool with fyad but still punished them for "fyad leaking" or whatever.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

The latter. I mean ozma was mostly cool with fyad but still punished them for "fyad leaking" or whatever.

Eh I think fyad is funny and good for the most part but she would punish people for insulting or making fun of fyad posters when they trolled outside of fyad which seemed a little pointless. She was definitely kind of a suck up to them

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010

RagnarokAngel posted:

Trans exclusionary radical feminist. Basically any woman who won't include trans women in feminist issues.


In practice it's more "actively hates trans women".

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
What was the story with Icequeen?

Ichabod Tane
Oct 30, 2005

A most notable
coward, an infinite and endless liar, an hourly promise breaker, the owner of no one good quality.


https://youtu.be/_Ojd0BdtMBY?t=4
Has anyone said....Ozma fat??

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

evobatman posted:

What was the story with Icequeen?

A brave prince had to rescue her from a fragon or something

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Improbable Lobster posted:

A brave prince had to rescue her from a fragon or something
He had to carry a printer to the top of the tallest tower.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
What ever happened to integral?

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

got any sevens posted:

What ever happened to integral?

Hip hopped her operating system too hard

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

got any sevens posted:

What ever happened to integral?

beheaded by another immortal

sunken fleet
Apr 25, 2010

dreams of an unchanging future,
a today like yesterday,
a tomorrow like today.
Fallen Rib

Space Crabs posted:

sorry guys but someone banning 5,000 people largely for things like statements she didn't agree with or jokes she didn't think were funny was in fact bad

unpopularforumopinions.txt apparently

How quickly people forget that for like a solid decade the whole draw of these forums was their "higher quality" discourse. People getting banned and probated for things like punctuation and lovely one word joke responses was a feature not a bug.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

sunken fleet posted:

How quickly people forget that for like a solid decade the whole draw of these forums was their "higher quality" discourse. People getting banned and probated for things like punctuation and lovely one word joke responses was a feature not a bug.

yeah, and it mostly attracted here the wrong kind of people

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Hogge Wild posted:

yeah, and it mostly attracted here the wrong kind of people

Comfirmed

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

more like oldspellcheckless

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



RentACop posted:

Was Ozma the one who wanted to be liked by Fyad and would let people run amok, or is that half-remembered libel
You're thinking of FactsAreUseless.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

sunken fleet posted:

How quickly people forget that for like a solid decade the whole draw of these forums was their "higher quality" discourse. People getting banned and probated for things like punctuation and lovely one word joke responses was a feature not a bug.

Yeah it's good that the weird neckbeard grammar nazis are gone. I agreee

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
For sooth, I say. Dost my grammatical leisure displeaseth thou? Might thee accept a taste of my scrot as reimbursement

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du -hast
Mar 12, 2003

BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT GENTOO

Aesop Poprock posted:

For sooth, I say. Dost my grammatical leisure displeaseth thou? Might thee accept a taste of my scrot as reimbursement

Fun pedantic fact here: bourse (which comes to the latin bursa, from which we get (re)imbursement) means bag/purse in french, and also scrotum. Thou hast madeth a pun without realization!

I need a loving hobby.

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