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Remember when Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close got nominated for Best Picture? I thought that was such a blatantly obvious attempt to bait Oscar judges that they'd see right through it, but nope. And even as a kid, I figured Shakespeare in Love over Saving Private Ryan was bullshit. On the other hand, I wanted something to win over Brokeback Mountain because I was sick of hearing about the nonstop hype about it. That was when Crash won... be careful what you wish for.
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Gonz posted:I've felt that the Oscars have been jokey bullshit ever since Sharon Stone didn't win Best Actress for Casino in 1996. Saving Private Ryan isn't anything special outside of the first scene.
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Titanic was a fine film in many ways but the fact that it beat out Men in Black and other contenders of that year for Best Makeup was when I realized Oscars were poo poo. Look at this amazing frozen to death makeup:  That must've taken like 10 minutes to apply!
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X2 is probably the best X-Men movie. Suicide Squad is pure poo poo but it has the immortal line "have you ever heard of the pyrokinetic homeboy"
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The ending of Dinosaurs is basically a better version of the ending of Battlestar Galactica. And I like the ending to Battlestar Galactica. It's just a big "They hosed up society, now they're handing Earth over to the next generation: you the audience. Don't gently caress it up again." It's great, and way less heavy-handed than BSG's. Rewatching Dinosaurs, it's amazing how angry it is. It's bitter, deeply cynical, and points the finger directly at its viewership as the problem. There's no kid gloves here where the creators are putting the audience in their boat and pointing outward - everyone is implicated. Each episode contains a clear lesson for how we as a society can avoid this particular foible, but generally ends with "but that's not going to realistically happen because we're all awful." It's goddamn refreshing. There's nothing this biting, sharp, or angry on TV today.
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precision posted:Suicide Squad is better than any of the X-Men films, it's true. Or at least, let's say it's more interesting. There is literally nothing good or interesting about Suicide Squad. re: X-Men, X2 is definitely the high point of the franchise, but I still like the first movie as well, even by today's standards let alone the cesspit that was "turn of the century comic book movies" raditts fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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feedmyleg posted:Rewatching Dinosaurs, it's amazing how angry it is. It's bitter, deeply cynical, and points the finger directly at its viewership as the problem. There's no kid gloves here where the creators are putting the audience in their boat and pointing outward - everyone is implicated. Each episode contains a clear lesson for how we as a society can avoid this particular foible, but generally ends with "but that's not going to realistically happen because we're all awful." I never cared much for Dinosaurs when I was a kid because it seemed to just be wacky hijinks + baby dinosaur being a catchphrase spewing mascot, so I never picked up on the themes. Although Jim Henson died before the show started, it seems like it's still got that same quality of "appeals to kids on a base level with puppets and cute characters, but has some really deep themes" that Fraggle Rock did.
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Dinosaurs was the pre Family Guy.
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Suicide Squad is a barely coherent, hateful turd of a movie. It spends 45 minutes telling you why you should care about these thinly-sketched assholes and their mission, then fails to give you a reason to do so over the next hour. They took the Marvel movies' Third Act Giant Portal problem, said "That's all the plot you need," and propped it up with approximately 4 dozen on-the-nose pop music selections.raditts posted:There is literally nothing good or interesting about Suicide Squad. There is one interesting moment: in the scene where Deadshot is told to demonstrate his proficiency as a marksman, you ever-so-briefly see the charm that made Will Smith the biggest drat movie star in the world, and you wonder what the hell happened to the dude and his career over the last decade.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:53
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From the first season, off the top of my head, Andrea Thompson, Claudia Christian, Peter Jurasik, Jeffrey Willerth and RD Chamberlain. 
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JethroMcB posted:There is one interesting moment: in the scene where Deadshot is told to demonstrate his proficiency as a marksman, you ever-so-briefly see the charm that made Will Smith the biggest drat movie star in the world, and you wonder what the hell happened to the dude and his career over the last decade. Much like Arnold he was perfect for his particular decade, but refused to evolve. The two actually have a lot of similarities to how they approached their films as brand and had a team of people who would rewrite scripts to fit that brand.
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Timby posted:From the first season, off the top of my head, Andrea Thompson, Claudia Christian, Peter Jurasik, Jeffrey Willerth and RD Chamberlain. Bruce Boxleitner is also still alive. (He's the man to call when you have some boxes but they're too heavy.)
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Wheat Loaf posted:Bruce Boxleitner is also still alive. Season 2 yo. Might as well add Patricia Tallman then
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Iron Crowned posted:Season 2 yo. Might as well add Patricia Tallman then I always forget Boxleitner wasn't in season one. I suppose it's because I mainly identify B5 with G'Kar and Londo - I like all the other guys but they're the stars of the show for me. 
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MiddleOne posted:Forever vindicating the sentiment that academy award nominations are a joke. On the other hand, people complaining about technical awards going to movies that they didn't like shows that the have no understanding of how awards work outside of the most basic tribal popularity contest.
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The shitshow that is ST: Discovery is back on for September 24th FWIW.
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At this point, if that actually makes it to air I'll be impressed.
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Lurdiak posted:At this point, if that actually makes it to air I'll be impressed. Well, only the first episode is going to "air"...
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"Journey into Nhappy Face"? Eh.
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Clearly the labyrinth symbolizes the smiley face's journey to achieving full consciousness.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Bruce Boxleitner is also still alive. I love Bruce. He keeps badgering Disney to get Tron3 made before it's too late.
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I don't care that Eddie Redmayne beat Michael Keaton because Birdman is terrible
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precision posted:"Journey into Nhappy Face" Evan Rachel Wood confirmed for season 2
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precision posted:"Journey into Nhappy Face"? Eh. "Journey intonight, a comedian died in New York."
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Timby posted:"Journey intonight, a comedian died in New York."  Arist posted:I don't care that Eddie Redmayne beat Michael Keaton because Birdman is terrible What Birdman is amazing. I feel like Keaton did a better job in The Founder though, as a really lovely con man who is also stupidly likeable in some ways.
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precision posted:
Birdman is a movie in which the only scene where two women talk to each other ends with them making out And don't even get me started on the rant about critics
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Sounds pretty great actually.
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Did you seriously just use the Bechdel Test in that way because. Did you seriously just use the Bechdel Test in that way? Schindler's List fails the Bechdel Test
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It has nothing to do with the Bechdel Test, it's just a gratuitous as gently caress
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precision posted:Birdman is amazing. I feel like Keaton did a better job in The Founder though, as a really lovely con man who is also stupidly likeable in some ways. I watched Founder purely because of Keaton, as the early reviews I read didn't seem that keen on it and I had a presumption that it was going to spin things into a really positive story or something. Really glad I ignored both others/myself, good movie.
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Like, here's the key problem with Birdman, besides its bizarre tone: Riggin's a terrible, miserable person. And while the movie's mostly aware of this, it tries to blame his misery on other factors instead of just realizing that they're related and that he's miserable because he's a terrible person. Also, the key issue behind his misery, the feeling that he's past his prime and only known for a silly superhero role, is totally based on a loving assumption and not any actual human being's pathology, because even Michael loving Keaton admitted he didn't feel like that.
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Arist posted:It has nothing to do with the Bechdel Test, it's just a gratuitous as gently caress I don't think you get to back out of this one since you specifically said "The only scene in which two women talk to each other". EL BROMANCE posted:I watched Founder purely because of Keaton, as the early reviews I read didn't seem that keen on it and I had a presumption that it was going to spin things into a really positive story or something. Really glad I ignored both others/myself, good movie. Yeah I was definitely afraid it would end up as a McDonald's puff piece, and while it certainly did a lot to prop up the legacy of the two guys who actually came up with the entire concept of fast food as we know it, it really didn't make Ray Crock look good at all (despite the hilarious ending slide about how he donated a ton of money to charity; when you have 20 billion dollars, giving away 2 billion is meaningless)
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Arist posted:It has nothing to do with the Bechdel Test, it's just a gratuitous as gently caress Man I miss Strike Back.
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precision posted:I don't think you get to back out of this one since you specifically said "The only scene in which two women talk to each other". That's not automatically a Bechdel thing, though? It's weird that the movie ignores women's perspectives until it can get some lesbian fetishism out of it? Like it's better to not have that scene than to have that be the only one is what I'm getting at.
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Arist posted:Birdman is a movie in which the only scene where two women talk to each other ends with them making out
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More TV chat, less movie chat. There's a whole other forum for that stuff.
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IRQ posted:Man I miss Strike Back. I recall like one lesbian kiss scene in the entirety of that show, which is pretty surprising.
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Mu Zeta posted:I recall like one lesbian kiss scene in the entirety of that show, which is pretty surprising. You know I thought there was more than that, it's really that sort of show. Maybe when they bring it back.
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precision posted:Yeah I was definitely afraid it would end up as a McDonald's puff piece, and while it certainly did a lot to prop up the legacy of the two guys who actually came up with the entire concept of fast food as we know it, it really didn't make Ray Crock look good at all (despite the hilarious ending slide about how he donated a ton of money to charity; when you have 20 billion dollars, giving away 2 billion is meaningless) It did make the actual McDonald brothers come off as really likable, principled guys even if half of that was just having Nick Offerman be Ron Swanson sans mustache. "It's not a milkshake if it doesn't have MILK in it!  "
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