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Xtanstic posted:3 SEA seems like one slot too many but I guess I can't think where else I would allocate it. Give SA a 2nd slot.
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re: ig, valve seems to operate on a points system where you get points for placing well but no penalty for placing badly (basically same as if you didn't attend at all), which is how it should be honestly because it encourages teams to attend as many events as possible so ig had some big lan wins and that's all that matters
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I feel like a CIS vs SA playoff would be a fun use of that slot, but that's just me.
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Majuju posted:nahaz eating crow over all his TI invite predictions would be the funniest thing nahaz was... right?
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Jun 19, 2017 04:00
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EU has way too many invites E: feel like take away one from eu and give it to CIS or something
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Just realised that this is the first TI without the previous year's winner returning (at least in team name).
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Kild posted:Give SA a 2nd slot. Gross. Give them 0 slots.  Ragingsheep posted:Wildcard slot. Well since we're going to 16-->18 and losing 2 before moving to KeyArena, they've pretty much included the Wildcard into the Group Stage at this point.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:17
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SA totally deserves their own quals this time, SG showed that they're good enough on LAN, and they shouldn't be lumped in with NA and deal with massive ping disadvantage.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:21
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I was being facetious. SA def deserves a slot but more than one is a waste given that the scene struggles to have a reasonable amount of teams between shuffling and bans.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:24
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Being facetious in a dota thread, I feel betrayed. Also im dumb.
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Xtanstic posted:I was being facetious. SA def deserves a slot but more than one is a waste given that the scene struggles to have a reasonable amount of teams between shuffling and bans. Then they get offed in wildcards or they stomp Secret and go on to 8th place.
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Jun 19, 2017 04:42
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Crell posted:nahaz was... right? He is still wrong as hell
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Jun 19, 2017 04:49
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No big name teams in open qualifiers this year?
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Jun 19, 2017 04:52
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yeah he was jacking himself raw during galaxy battles about planet odd deserving an invite but as said, NP probably would deserve one just as much
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Jun 19, 2017 04:52
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Liquid got in because they won Dotapit not because they are 'the best early game team in Dota 2' or something
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Jun 19, 2017 04:57
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Team Odd absolutely dont deserve an invite this year but I thought they might get one anyway based on last year and Wings disbanding. They're in NA for some reason so they probably get in anyway.
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https://twitter.com/Meracleeeeee/status/876660727687241728GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Liquid got in because they won Dotapit not because they are 'the best early game team in Dota 2' or something Epicenter.
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Jun 19, 2017 05:41
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based on the invited teams for the qualifiers, they'd (Planet Odd) probably have an easier time in Europe where the only real competition is Secret and possibly Mouz In NA, I think NP, DC, and PO are all contenders, with TF and Col having upset potential. Of course, they had no way of knowing this is how things would work out Centzon Totochtin fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 05:43
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The REAL Goobusters posted:EU has way too many invites Four is too many?
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Jun 19, 2017 06:01
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About 4x more than they deserve yes
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Jun 19, 2017 12:43
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Between OG Liquid and Secret I disagree
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Plant odd is gonna have a tough time in the quals I think. I think NP gets in for sure but it's gonna be between D.C. And odd unless some insane upset happens. Also looking at the EU teams in the qual, the only team that even looks remotely good is Secret. I don't know why EU gets 2 invites from the quals but whatever.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Plant odd is gonna have a tough time in the quals I think. I think NP gets in for sure but it's gonna be between D.C. And odd unless some insane upset happens. EU qualifiers have been pretty high quality in the past while NA quals have traditionally been a trash fire. The EU quals do look really dire this year though.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Plant odd is gonna have a tough time in the quals I think. I think NP gets in for sure but it's gonna be between D.C. And odd unless some insane upset happens. CIS isn't really any better though
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Jun 19, 2017 14:24
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Andrast posted:EU qualifiers have been pretty high quality in the past while NA quals have traditionally been a trash fire. May I remind you that the two teams from the NA quals last year made it to top 3 ti.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:41
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The REAL Goobusters posted:May I remind you that the two teams from the NA quals last year made it to top 3 ti. So? The rest of it was still a trash fire so no need to have more slots.
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Andrast posted:So? The rest of it was still a trash fire so no need to have more slots. They should take a slot away from EU, because they always choke at TI, the good teams were already invited and the only other team that even deserves a shot is team secret. Give the other slot to NA/SA or even CIS which looks like a stronger region if you don't count Secret. What I'm trying to say is NA > EU every goddamn day.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:48
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The REAL Goobusters posted:They should take a slot away from EU, because they always choke at TI, the good teams were already invited and the only other team that even deserves a shot is team secret. Having two slots for an area that is traditionally been strong in the dota scene is just common sense.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:51
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Also you have to have that second qual slot for the syndstack
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Jun 19, 2017 14:53
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EU west basically looks like the old NA qualifiers. Half of the teams are complete nobodies
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The REAL Goobusters posted:EU west basically looks like the old NA qualifiers. Half of the teams are complete nobodies which is why I said it looks dire this year. Honestly, they should have made the runner-ups of the CIS and Europe quals play for the spot.
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Jun 19, 2017 14:56
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you EU haters are going to look like idiots when alliance minus loda crashes out of open quals and team four protect five wins the aegis
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Jun 19, 2017 17:41
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lol if you think anyone but EG will win it
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RisqueBarber posted:lol if you think anyone but EG will win it lol if you think that a team with RTZ is winning a Valve event
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Jun 19, 2017 18:33
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Xtanstic posted:3 SEA seems like one slot too many but I guess I can't think where else I would allocate it.
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Captain No-mates posted:you EU haters are going to look like idiots when alliance minus loda crashes out of open quals and team four protect five wins the aegis Oh yeah, they're in open quals this year. They're gonna get bounced by nobodies. 
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Jun 19, 2017 19:35
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A team with a Canadian, a russian, a Dane, a Macedonian and a Romanian, sponsored by a Norwegian company, is qualifying from NA 
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Jun 19, 2017 19:37
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they spent most of the year here and also prefer the us get destroyed eurailures 
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IcePhoenix posted:Between OG Liquid and Secret I disagree if secret so good why didn't they get an invite or beat vp at the summit???????
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I don't think Secret would've gotten the invite even if they won the summit. Newbee and TL are the only teams with multiple lan wins between Kiev and now that weren't top4 at the major so they were basically guaranteed. But they basically have an invite, the EU qualifier is unbelievably free for them. However teams that do good at the Summit typically do good at TI. If you look at the pre-TI summits, one of the teams in the grand finals always places top 3 at the following TI. I'm willing to bet that'll happen this year too.
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