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They can trade him to anyone not on his list. But come on, they are going to take him. Don't overthink this.
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I wonder how the announcement of the Las Vegas Raiders may have impacted the G'Knights' draft strategy. If you had the only pro sports team in town then all options would be on the table: - Draft a few "stars" like MAF for marketing and/or pick up several veterans for a potential WC push early on; - A mix of option 1 and some youth, backroom deals for picks, and veterans that could be flipped for more assets; - Focus entirely on the long-term of youth/picka/assets and possibly be terrible for the first few years. The nascent fanbase of an expansion franchise in a "foreign" sport will only have 2 (max 3) years to grow before a historic NFL team with a playoff-caliber roster rolls into town. Sure, tickets may sell regardless due to casino promos and curious tourists, but a pro team needs a core loyal fanbase for the long haul. The first half of the NHL calendar will be swallowed up by NFL action, and if the G'Knights are doing poorly at the midway point then how many fans will be gung-ho for the back half? Do you think that may prompt an aggressive "be not-terrible now" mentality when drafting, or would you wager that patient development of the on-ice product will win out? (Oops, though I was in the Expansion thread. Will leave it here and x-post as well.)
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Just saw that Ryan Strome isn't protected, and I haven't seen anyone mention it. Is there no hope left for him?
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Aphrodite posted:It's also possible they convince him to waive for a trade but currently he has only allowed it for the draft. My boss mentioned that Philly is apparently inquiring about sending their pick to LV for Fleury? Not sure where he got it. That would be very interesting, though. While I'm here, what's Blues fans take on Ivan Barbashev? He seems like he could be a top 6 after he develops to me. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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I don't know if the French guy named Flowery is the marketable star for Las Vegas.
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Call him the Desert Flower. That way if the goalie job doean't pan out, he can always be a stripper.
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Why would an expansion team want a 3x Stanley Cup winning goalie and Face of the Franchise type player who is still in his prime and who is also universally adored by everyone except cynical goons? Weird
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It's a pretty ugly face.
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I like the PAS thinly veiled concern of vegas not taking MAF with constant MAF compliments and stats. Mmmmm mmmhmmmm *licks fingers*
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Why would an expansion team want a 3x Stanley Cup winning goalie and Face of the Franchise type player who is still in his prime and who is also universally adored by everyone except cynical goons? Weird
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Ask Trevor Daley how nice he is add Filppula and Hudler to that list of "etc." oh but we were contending for a cup!!! we couldn't possibly trade them before the playoffs!
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Aphrodite posted:It's a pretty ugly face. Nice. Mlyp
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Wonderllama posted:I like the PAS thinly veiled concern of vegas not taking MAF with constant MAF compliments and stats. I'm fine with keeping him if they take Hagelin instead. Gotta clean up the budget somehow. It would be very weird given the narrative out of Pittsburgh all the same. MAF seems convinced he's going somewhere.
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Gio posted:add Filppula and Hudler to that list of "etc." Remember that Holland let Filppula go because of the same things he doesn't like in Mrazek, and used that money to instead sign Stephen Weiss. Also, Filppula was immediately signed by Steve Yzerman
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:I'm fine with keeping him if they take Hagelin instead. Gotta clean up the budget somehow. Nah he needs to go. We don't need all that money tied up in a backup goalie. Obviously it worked out this year but 9/10 times that's just wasted cap space.
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https://twitter.com/CopperandBlue/status/876847215695745024 Oh please oh please oh please
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El Gallinero Gros posted:My boss mentioned that Philly is apparently inquiring about sending their pick to LV for Fleury? Not sure where he got it. That would be very interesting, though. Looked brilliant at times. I think he will be a solid 2nd liner in the next year or two.
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Albino Squirrel posted:https://twitter.com/CopperandBlue/status/876847215695745024 couldn't vegas just wait until after expansion and then deal with him as a UFA?
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JawKnee posted:couldn't vegas just wait until after expansion and then deal with him as a UFA? yes, but they can also talk to him right now which gives them a head start. vegas signing a ufa now would be stupid because players are like a week away from free agency so they aren't getting a discount and they lose their pick if they sign him
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Jordin Tootoo was named to the Order of Canada today for his work with Indigenous communities. Good for him.
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Not wholly stupid because having them locked in might change your decision making on other picks. Probably stupid if it's Kris Russell though.
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Pornographic Memory posted:i am curious to see how good/bad maatta plays away from trevor daley who's historically been a huge drag fancystats-wise and only good in that regard last year when he played most of his minutes with brian dumoulin. i'm not expecting miracles but daley's not exactly the kind of steady reliable defenseman to prop up a shaky partner and give him room to make mistakes IIRC maatta's WOWYs don't look good no matter how you cut them
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Just checking in to say  @ protecting Howard.Fire Holland. I was actually surprised to see Helm exposed and AA protected. But still... fire Holland.
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Kuzy making good choices https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/876770841220059136
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Chad Sexington posted:Kuzy making good choices Comments clarify this is an offer from SKA and not the Caps
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Twin Cinema posted:Just saw that Ryan Strome isn't protected, and I haven't seen anyone mention it. Is there no hope left for him? Word is NYI are giving vegas the #14 pick in the draft to take a defenseman.
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Comments clarify this is an offer from SKA and not the Caps Oh yeah sorry, I pulled that out of context. Kuzy not going to Russia, basically. I'm hoping we can lock him up long-term for slightly-less-than-Backstrom money.
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Yotes finally dumping Doan. Bergevin is gonna backup a truck full of money to his house isn't he?
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Xtanstic posted:Yotes finally dumping Doan. Bergevin is gonna backup a truck full of money to his house isn't he? Better yet, trading Galchenyuk to get exclusive negotiating rights.
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Vegas should get Thornton, Iginla, Jagr, and Doan for an old guy victory(less) lap and then retire all their numbers next year. edit: But not Hossa because gently caress helping Chicago. Thufir fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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he wasn't great last year but drat that's the end of the only era i've known in hockey
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good, gently caress shane doan
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Levitate posted:good, gently caress shane doan carey price cousin reunion party (1 year 1 mil anything more gently caress off bergevin)
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It's sad and all but I'm honestly surprised that more teams don't do this. The NFL and MLB, for example, are absolutely ruthless about getting rid of "fan favourites" when they can no longer meaningfully contribute or are overpriced.
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Thufir posted:Vegas should get Thornton, Iginla, Jagr, and Doan for an old guy victory(less) lap and then retire all their numbers next year. Hossa already has a cup he doesn't count
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NHL rosters have more room for meh players though because of how bad most 4th lines and 7th dmen are. NFL and MLB rosters don't really have room to use guys in the same way. Like Doan is still good enough for most teams 4th lines at the very least. ^^^so does Jagr.
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