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flightless greeb
Jan 28, 2016

What's in the game exclusively from rebels right now anyway?

TAP
Ghost / Assault Shuttle
Protectorate Starfighter
Rebel TIE
Shadowcaster

Anything else?

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bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Tie defender :colbert:

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

The Imperial Assault Carrier and the C-ROC.

The Gozanti itself predates Rebels but those two particular varients are from the show.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

bunnyofdoom posted:

Tie defender :colbert:

TIE Fighter alone is better then the entire rest of the EU

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice
What happened to Kylo Ren in the meta? I thought he was supposed to break the game for Imperials?

VikingPenguin
Nov 6, 2005

Thundercracker posted:

What happened to Kylo Ren in the meta? I thought he was supposed to break the game for Imperials?

The imperials don't have a great way of forcing critical hits, so Rear Admiral Chiraneau is pretty much the only good carrier right now, and decimators are hard to fly well. Also, anything you pair it with will have a very tough time with Asajj and bombs.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Thundercracker posted:

What happened to Kylo Ren in the meta? I thought he was supposed to break the game for Imperials?

He was never all that good; he costs an action that isn't arc dodging or modifying dice, and he requires you to actually hit with your attack to deliver the effect.

He's just not that hot. Vader and Rebel Captive are way better for the price and slot.

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:
Whoa, 60 new posts! I wonder what FF posted that go-

:stare:

:stonk:

:stonklol:

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats

IronSaber posted:

Whoa, 60 new posts! I wonder what FF posted that go-

:stare:

:stonk:

:stonklol:

This will be about the time that they nerf torp scouts. All hail our bomb overlords.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Got our store champs in two weeks and I have been helping a new player over the last few weeks. He picked up HOTR and wants to run Rey/Poe. Never having flown the list I was just wondering if this is a good setup.

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Finn (5)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Push the Limit (3)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 100

Would this be good for a newish player or should I go for regen poe?

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
A new player is probably better off with regen poe than barrel rolling before manoeuvre poe, because that's a easy way to rock yourself.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
That Rey is a good Rey tho

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you

Raged posted:

Got our store champs in two weeks and I have been helping a new player over the last few weeks. He picked up HOTR and wants to run Rey/Poe. Never having flown the list I was just wondering if this is a good setup.

Rey (45)
Expertise (4)
Kanan Jarrus (3)
Finn (5)
Millennium Falcon (TFA) (1)

Poe Dameron (PS9) (33)
Push the Limit (3)
BB-8 (2)
Primed Thrusters (1)
Autothrusters (2)
Black One (1)

Total: 100

Would this be good for a newish player or should I go for regen poe?

In my opinion if you don't have an initiative bid, PS9 Poe isn't worth the 2 extra points, and you're better off with PS8 Poe and putting that back into your upgrades.
Like R5-P9 and pattern analyzer.

On a 42 point budget you can build a really great Regen Norra also, which is a real tanky companion for Rey that can pile on big damage if ignored. I also like that for new players she's got the second arc which helps with not getting shut out of shots.
But if you gotta run Poe because Poe is fun and cool that's a-Ok too

Bell_
Sep 3, 2006

Tiny Baltimore
A billion light years away
A goon's posting the same thing
But he's already turned to dust
And the shitpost we read
Is a billion light-years old
A ghost just like the rest of us

bunnyofdoom posted:

Tie defender :colbert:
I played the hell out of Tie Fighter in the nineties, thanks to that ship.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
....I was making a joke that Rebels recanonized the tie defender.

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
I am really starting to think wave 11 is going to be out really soon. A lot of places taking pre orders are saying June now for the release date. Since store champs are not "premier" events can new wave be used as soon as they are released?

Raged fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Jun 18, 2017

IronSaber
Feb 24, 2009

:roboluv: oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...:fap:

Raged posted:

I am really starting to think wave 11 is going to be out really soon. A lot of places taking pre orders are saying June now for the release date. Since store champs are not "premier" events can new wave be used as soon as they are released?

It's possible, but then again I have no idea when anything ships or arrives in stores.

I just want my TLT's, dammit! :saddowns:

Raged
Jul 21, 2003

A revolution of beats
Where in the FAQ should I point to that minefield mapper is not going to let someone use up EM and the card to drop 12 cluster mines during setup.

Just came across it on vassal and just quit out when the guy did not believe me. Not going to play that unfun poo poo

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Raged posted:

Where in the FAQ should I point to that minefield mapper is not going to let someone use up EM and the card to drop 12 cluster mines during setup.

Just came across it on vassal and just quit out when the guy did not believe me. Not going to play that unfun poo poo

It's not in the FAQ yet and it won't be until release, but it's in either the rules reference or the learn to play under Once Per Opportunity.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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I understand where people are coming from quoting the once per opportunity rule, but I could make a semantic argument that the "any number" phrase from Minefield Mapper overrules that.

It definitely needs a FAQ, and I have a feeling it'll rule in favor of the once per opportunity rule, but until then it's really not as cut-and-dried as all that.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Gonna smush a buncha mines in the middle of my debris cloud and play ring around the big-ol-glob o poo poo with dash.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ConfusedUs posted:

I understand where people are coming from quoting the once per opportunity rule, but I could make a semantic argument that the "any number" phrase from Minefield Mapper overrules that.

It definitely needs a FAQ, and I have a feeling it'll rule in favor of the once per opportunity rule, but until then it's really not as cut-and-dried as all that.

It definitely needs FAQing, but it's pretty cut and dried.

It says 'you may discard any number of your bomb cards'. You have only (e.g.) 2 bomb cards, so the number you can pick is 0, 1, or 2. When you activate it, you can choose to discard the tokens instead of the cards, but that doesn't mean you can choose more cards than you have equipped, and you only get one opportunity to choose.

I'm pretty convinced that except for some stupid-rear end fortress builds that everyone will hate, Minefield Mapper will basically be a non-starter - it'll be used at high level, but only a tiny bit, and only in very niche cases, like Tractor Beams, like Boba crew, like Kylo crew. There are other killer apps in this wave - Cad in particular is ridiculously good, as is Scum Nym.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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TTS tonight anyone? I promise not to play bullshit minefield mappers.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

ConfusedUs posted:

I promise not to play bullshit minefield mappers.

I kind of want to do this...

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

TTS and Vassal seem like the only real feasible way to play bullshit minefield mappers.

Which expacks come with the Cluster Mine tokens? I don't even remember.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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AndyElusive posted:

TTS and Vassal seem like the only real feasible way to play bullshit minefield mappers.

Which expacks come with the Cluster Mine tokens? I don't even remember.

They come in the Punisher, Ghost, and Imperial Veterans packs

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Anyone have suggestions for the following list? It has been a couple of months since I got to play some X-Wing. I am mainly concerned about the B-Wing. I wasn't sure what else to do with the 24 points left over after I built Nien and Norra. A TLT Y-Wing seems a little weak without an R2 droid.

June list (100)

Nien Nunb (35) - T-70 X-Wing
Snap Shot (2), R3-A2 (2), Pattern Analyzer (2), Integrated Astromech (0)

Norra Wexley (41) - ARC-170
Push The Limit (3), C-3PO (3), R2-D2 (4), Alliance Overhaul (0), Vectored Thrusters (2)

Blue Squadron Pilot (24) - B-Wing
Fire Control System (2)

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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How much is Jess Pava? She's about 24 points with an astromech of some sort I think.

Strobe
Jun 30, 2014
GW BRAINWORMS CREW
She's 25 base. Blue Squadron Novice is 24.

hoiyes
May 17, 2007
She's 25 base, 28 with M9.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

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Okay then yeah, not sure what else to put in for those 24 points. It's either two naked Zs, the FCS B-Wing, or a TLT y-wing.

Or maybe some kind of Rebel TIE? Ahsoka with VI, Captured TIE, Masterpiece, and Operations Specialist crew is 24 points, and can help provide extra focus tokens. Other crew may be worth considering too, like Jan Ors.

Orvin
Sep 9, 2006




Sadly I never got around to buying a captured TIE. The last thing I bought was Heroes of the Resistance. I have been spending most of my time and money on Armada recently.

I kinda figured there were not many options at 24 points, but also wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something on the X-Wing or Arc.

Cobaltshift
Jul 15, 2013

Ion Y with a R2 Astromech is always a good option too, especially with Norra and a T-70.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Good repository of homebrew

Find your worst!

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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Here you go!
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Holy poo poo

canyonero
Aug 3, 2006
ConfusedUs, I'm going to bring your Whisper/Kylo list to a tournament tonight because I have no other inspiration and I like your lists a lot. Does Lone Wolf wind up trigger a lot, or is it just there to help after they've removed Whisper? What sort of rocks do you bring? Any general tips?

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
You want fucking bees?
Here you go!
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canyonero posted:

ConfusedUs, I'm going to bring your Whisper/Kylo list to a tournament tonight because I have no other inspiration and I like your lists a lot. Does Lone Wolf wind up trigger a lot, or is it just there to help after they've removed Whisper? What sort of rocks do you bring? Any general tips?

Lone wolf triggers constantly because Whisper should be flanking (set up in the middle-ish) while Kylo runs straight at them (after setting up at PS12).

I bring the two big rocks and one medium debris field. I try to put the two biggest obstacles in their corners at range 3 (instead of range 2). With 3-forward + boost on Kylo I usually get the engagement near that rock in a way that keeps them from making fancy maneuvers to turn in to whisper. I *want* them to shoot Kylo.

ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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Also, seriously, practice this list. It has a million things to trigger on Kylo and you'll forget things. It's also not easy to fly and requires a lot of on-the-fly adjustments based on the enemy's actions. The smart players will ignore Kylo and gun for Whisper, so your approach with Whisper must have escape routes.

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
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ConfusedUs posted:

Holy poo poo

Hahahahaha

How about the 4pt EPT that gives an imp pilot prenerfed Palp?

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ConfusedUs
Feb 24, 2004

Bees?
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Here you go!
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bunnyofdoom posted:

Hahahahaha

How about the 4pt EPT that gives an imp pilot prenerfed Palp?

I'm pretty sure I saw one in there that lets them take two EPTs. So combine the Palp-like one with the one that lets you spend focus tokens as Evades.

Poe is now invincible.

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