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rabidsquid posted:Only the Strong Great film. capoeira rules
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ButtWolf posted:Jordan Bell is a 'film buff', here is his top 5 I've never seen any of those movies, must be some pretty obscure stuff
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Face/Off introduced very important John Woo gun choreography (esp. the bit where both actors have their pistols braced against the other's forehead) to American film, and Bloodsport was by far JCVD's best movie about a secret fighting tournament, don't even try to compare it to Lionheart or Kickboxer or The Quest or No Retreat, No Surrender yes I know technically JCVD's Hard Target was Woo's first western film but c'mon Transformers 3 was the best of the Transformers movies but that doesn't mean much
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Jun 19, 2017 08:03
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I might revise this again (especially the second round) before the draft but here is my current mock, more of an attempt at prediction than BPA order. I tried to factor in need and who teams worked out if I had any question about a pick, but am welcome to feedback from people following their teams more closely than me.code:
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I feel like you forgot about Frank Jackson
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Kurucs withdrew from the draft, Hawks U will have to find another amorphous wing to be their next enrollee.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:26
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Malik Monk would be kind of a surprise for the Timberwolves. I think they are far more interested in veteran help at the wing rather than bringing in another young piece there. I would guess they either take Lauri Markkanen in that situation or DSJ (who they have worked out) if he's available as Thibs continues his quest to replace Rubio. If Isaac falls the Wolves were very interested there, but I think Isaac has a promise at #4.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:28
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Ford's latest. If anyone wants the capsule for any player/team let me know. 1. Philadelphia 76ers (via Celtics) - Markelle Fultz 2. Los Angeles Lakers - Lonzo Ball 3. Boston Celtics (via 76ers) - Josh Jackson 4. Phoenix Suns - Jayson Tatum 5. Sacramento Kings (via 76ers) - De'Aaron Fox 6. Orlando Magic - Jonathan Isaac 7. Minnesota Timberwolves - Lauri Markkanen 8. New York Knicks - Frank Ntilikina 9. Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith 10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans) - Zach Collins 11. Charlotte Hornets - Malik Monk 12. Detroit Pistons - Luke Kennard 13. Denver Nuggets - OG Anunoby 14. Miami Heat - Donovan Mitchell 15. Portland Trail Blazers - Harry Giles 16. Chicago Bulls - John Collins 17. Milwaukee Bucks - Ike Anigbogu 18. Indiana Pacers - TJ Leaf 19. Atlanta Hawks - Justin Patton 20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies) - Edrice Adebayo 21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Justin Jackson 22. Brooklyn Nets (via Wizards) - Anzejs Pasecniks 23. Toronto Raptors (via Clippers) - Jonah Bolden 24. Utah Jazz - Tony Bradley 25. Orlando Magic (via Raptors) - Jarrett Allen 26. Portland Trail Blazers (via Cavaliers) - Isaiah Hartenstein 27. Brooklyn Nets (via Celtics) - Terrance Ferguson 28. L.A. Lakers (via Rockets) - D.J. Wilson 29. San Antonio Spurs - Josh Hart 30. Utah Jazz (via Warriors) - Tyler Lydon Monk to Charlotte is basically their best-case scenario so I'd be down for this.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:34
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I want Lonzo Ball is Sacramento more than I've wanted anything in my life ever.
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Jun 19, 2017 15:39
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1...2...3... Lonzo Rocks!
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Jun 19, 2017 15:39
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Monk is a total Vivek player but I hope we take him if he's there at #10. I'd rather try to turn him into a combo guard than add Collins to the mix and try to navigate that maze
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Jun 19, 2017 16:15
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Portland has so many loving first round picks. You have to assume they trade at least one and maybe two. I hate Luke Kennard to the Pistons, unathletic wings are scary, they spook me. Players with his run/jump athleticism as NBA starters are rare. I can think of D'angelo Russel, JJ Red Dick and younger Kyle Korver, otherwise you're thinking backups like Nik Stauskas and Tyler Ennis. That means he has to be an elite shooter and a very good playmaker to ever be a starter. Is he? I'd rather play it safe and go Mitchell or Collins (bleh)/mybe trade with portland and get Anuboby and Hartenstein if they don't like anyone who's mocked 11-14. Mitchell isn't a prototypical starter, but he'd make their bench better and be KCP insurance. i have the same reservations about him now as I did when he rose after combine measurements, but guys with his physical profile tend to do well, and he looks decent on video.
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Jun 19, 2017 16:37
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Dejan Bimble posted:Portland has so many loving first round picks. You have to assume they trade at least one and maybe two. Mitchell was apparently outstanding on open threes in college. I don't really see how he becomes a star but he seems like a pretty safe bet to be a good three + D guy. morestuff fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 16:42
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Also, Ched Ferd saying the Celtics are taking Jackson makes moving down to three much more defensible. At least he has all NBA potentialmorestuff posted:Mitchell was apparently outstanding on open threes in college. I don't really see how he becomes a star but he seems like a pretty safe bet to be a good three + D guy. He seems to work very well as a complimentary player, but he's not helpless with the ball, he just seems solid
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Jun 19, 2017 16:55
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Dejan Bimble posted:Also, Ched Ferd saying the Celtics are taking Jackson makes moving down to three much more defensible. At least he has all NBA potential I dont see him dropping past Detroit not earlier than Charlotte. So 11 or 12. I think he could be a real good 6th man, which is good value late lottery.
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Jun 19, 2017 17:57
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https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/876846876598964224 Will be interesting if to see if they try and trade up to leapfrog NY.
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Jun 19, 2017 18:01
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Wonder if that means Vlade won't try to get cute and take Issac or Tatum hoping one guard will fall to #10
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Jun 19, 2017 18:23
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https://twitter.com/sixers/status/876856501612281858
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I trust the process
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the Sixers sent their own 2017 first-round pick, No. 3, to Boston, as well as the 2018 first-round selection they received from the Los Angeles Lakers as part of a separate deal made at the 2015 NBA trade deadline. More: quote:Of note, however, is that the Lakers’ pick going to the Celtics will come with key protections, covering next year’s first overall pick, and picks 6 through 30. Should the pick ultimately fall in those ranges, and subsequently not convey to the C’s, Boston will then be entitled to the better of either the Sixers' own 2019 first-round selection, or the 2019 first-round pick the Sixers acquired from a July 2015 swap with the Sacramento Kings. edit: also this thread is moving too slow, I have questions. Can someone who understands the NBA better than me (admittedly very easy to do) explain why Boston isn't going to use all these assets to make a major go at Anthony Davis? That seems logical to me. kiimo fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Jun 19, 2017 18:58
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/chadfordinsider/status/876846876598964224 The rumor I've read is they will try to trade with Minnesota to switch picks and get Rubio. Not sure what they'd be sending for salary but Powell/Harris or Matthews works. Every time the Mavs are asked about trading Matthews they say no but who knows.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:25
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Spacebump posted:The rumor I've read is they will try to trade with Minnesota to switch picks and get Rubio. Not sure what they'd be sending for salary but Powell/Harris or Matthews works. Every time the Mavs are asked about trading Matthews they say no but who knows. I'm confused as to why Minny would be interested in that
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Jun 19, 2017 19:26
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What if NY takes Frank? Will that guy get demoted to Summer League tape room guy
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Jun 19, 2017 19:28
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morestuff posted:I'm confused as to why Minny would be interested in that Me too kiimo posted:edit: also this thread is moving too slow, I have questions. Because the Pels have literally no reason to trade Davis and nothing the Celtics can offer for him would be worth it.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:38
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The pels have never been more unwilling to trade davis since they acquired cousins.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:43
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Spacebump posted:The rumor I've read is they will try to trade with Minnesota to switch picks and get Rubio. Not sure what they'd be sending for salary but Powell/Harris or Matthews works. Every time the Mavs are asked about trading Matthews they say no but who knows. Mavs are under the cap, so you don't need to match salary. You only need to match if the trade takes you over the cap. But I don't know why the Timberwolves would drop down several spots just to give up a player on a pretty good salary. Maybe if Matthews is coming back and you think he'll recover from his Achilles but I dunno.
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It seems like there might be a good chance Dennis Smith might drop to NY and it kills me that his workout with us was canceled. I'd be happy with either Monk or Ntilikina I guess. Frank doesn't look very explosive TBH.
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Jun 19, 2017 19:58
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kiimo posted:the Sixers sent their own 2017 first-round pick, No. 3, to Boston, as well as the 2018 first-round selection they received from the Los Angeles Lakers as part of a separate deal made at the 2015 NBA trade deadline. Trading for one of the most valuable young assets in the league is hard, as it turns out. Everyone in the league would love to trade for Davis, if he were easy to get he would already have been traded.
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IcePhoenix posted:Because the Pels have literally no reason to trade Davis and nothing the Celtics can offer for him would be worth it. Pretty much.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:02
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https://twitter.com/celtics/status/876859851376402437 I really hope he's talking about Tatum
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Jun 19, 2017 20:02
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Markelle Fultz smells bad and is known to kick puppies, anonymous sources say.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:05
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xbilkis posted:https://twitter.com/celtics/status/876859851376402437 Well, I mean if it is, I'm glad he traded down
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MourningView posted:Markelle Fultz smells bad and is known to kick puppies, anonymous sources say. That loving sonofabitch!
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Jun 19, 2017 20:08
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was there anything in any public Jokic scouting report that hinted he might be as good as he is? I want to read reports from anyone who thought he'd be good
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Jun 19, 2017 20:41
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MourningView posted:Trading for one of the most valuable young assets in the league is hard, as it turns out. Everyone in the league would love to trade for Davis, if he were easy to get he would already have been traded. I am not under the impression that he's easy to get, I'm under the impression that the Celtics have the fool's ransom it would take to get him.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:48
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kiimo posted:I am not under the impression that he's easy to get, I'm under the impression that the Celtics have the fool's ransom it would take to get him. There are very very very few things that could get new Orleans to trade Davis without Davis telling them he isn't going to re-sign and wants a trade and Boston has none of them
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Okay gotcha.
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Jun 19, 2017 20:53
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EvanTH posted:was there anything in any public Jokic scouting report that hinted he might be as good as he is? I want to read reports from anyone who thought he'd be good HIs probglem was that everyone saw his slow feet and just said gently caress it. Because when he was 18he was tall and could shoot but didn't have the insane passing, ball handling and post game. He was a big slow body with high iq and a jumper. He really developed every facet of his game
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kiimo posted:I am not under the impression that he's easy to get, I'm under the impression that the Celtics have the fool's ransom it would take to get him. If you don't think you can build a good team with Anthony Davis then you wouldn't think you can build a good team with a bunch of draft picks either.
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The Celtics might have enough if Anthony Davis was on like his 2nd to last year of the contract, but nobody is trading someone who league-wide considers a future MVP with four years left on his deal.
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