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Abathur needs a rework. Slug has too many useless / unattractive talents.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:07
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Paranoid Peanut posted:Abathur needs a rework. Slug has too many useless / unattractive talents. His last rework was because his talents made his hat "too powerful" and it encouraged people to be hatted all game. So, in the rework, they nerfed all of his hat talents and then moved them to different tiers from the pushing talents. Now, you still pick his hat talents for the first 13 levels, but they are just weaker.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:30
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:His last rework was because his talents made his hat "too powerful" and it encouraged people to be hatted all game. gently caress the hat, mine build 24/7.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:36
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Nephzinho posted:gently caress the hat, mine build 24/7. Mines aren't that good anymore. Plus, there are only mine talents on three tiers. You still end up going the same skills for most of the tiers and Monstrosity still doesn't have a legitimate level 20 talent.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:45
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I was extremely disappointed to hear Anubarak has some dumb hissy voice instead of his cool TFT voice.
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Jun 19, 2017 21:47
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Mines aren't that good anymore. Plus, there are only mine talents on three tiers. You still end up going the same skills for most of the tiers and Monstrosity still doesn't have a legitimate level 20 talent. Yes, but you place all the mines in a spot and bait people into it. Why else play Aba?
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Jun 19, 2017 21:48
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The good build for Abathur now is locusts, right?
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Jun 19, 2017 21:49
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Nephzinho posted:Yes, but you place all the mines in a spot and bait people into it. Why else play Aba? Still more fun to place them all over the map chokes when there is a zeratul or nova on the enemy team. Much glee as you see their icon pop up in random spots of the map all game long
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Jun 19, 2017 21:50
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Tender Bender posted:I was extremely disappointed to hear Anubarak has some dumb hissy voice instead of his cool TFT voice. I can't remember who, but some other hots hero sounds a lot like TFT Anubarak. Is it Azmodan?
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Jun 19, 2017 21:57
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Anub'arak has had three or four different voice actors over the years but his TFT incarnation was (I'm pretty sure) voiced by Steve Blum, who sounds Quite Similar when he's being Abathur.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:09
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Paranoid Peanut posted:Abathur needs a rework. Slug has too many useless / unattractive talents. How do you figure? I have a buddy who's an Abathur main and he swears that Abathur has at least four distinct builds, which doesn't exactly scream "useless / unattractive talents" to me.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:18
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Power Bottom posted:How do you figure? I have a buddy who's an Abathur main and he swears that Abathur has at least four distinct builds, which doesn't exactly scream "useless / unattractive talents" to me. My main issue is that you can't play every hero on every map, but every map is in Quick play. If my friends and I go into Quick Play with a good comp and then get Braxis Holdout, guess what? I'm hosed.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:21
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Not every hero is meant to be played on every map, especially the weirdoes like Abathur and The Lost Vikings. That's why HOTS has multiple maps. Not every team composition is going to work on every map, especially when you're doing a blind pick of the battleground you're going into. That's why HOTS has multiple draft modes.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:43
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Power Bottom posted:bake in half of Holy Ground. This definitely needs to happen, along with a talent overhaul to remove generic talents and something to make his his E and W feel less like wet farts.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:46
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Power Bottom posted:Not every hero is meant to be played on every map, especially the weirdoes like Abathur and The Lost Vikings. That's why HOTS has multiple maps. IMO they should change quick match to a single pre-defined map that rotates daily, which would solve a whole bunch of problems. QM would be so much better.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:47
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Nephzinho posted:Yes, but you place all the mines in a spot and
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Jun 19, 2017 22:58
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nerf genji and buff chen
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Jun 19, 2017 23:05
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Turns out when pros hunt into the middle of the enemy team it's still bad.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:05
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The Shortest Path posted:IMO they should change quick match to a single pre-defined map that rotates daily, which would solve a whole bunch of problems. QM would be so much better. Holy poo poo jesus christ what? gently caress that. Jesus!
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Jun 19, 2017 23:05
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That was a good-rear end series of games
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Jun 19, 2017 23:10
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Macaluso posted:Holy poo poo jesus christ what? gently caress that. Jesus! I can't loving wait for Hanamura Tuesdays
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Jun 19, 2017 23:11
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Macaluso posted:Holy poo poo jesus christ what? gently caress that. Jesus! It would avoid the situation of players picking characters that end up garbage on the map that they get randomed into. If you don't like the daily map, you can just not play qm that day and not have to worry about it on later days, instead of hoping you don't get randomed into a lovely one like Hanamura or Mines. Draft will still be random, so you have options for variety. What are the downsides to this?
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Jun 19, 2017 23:15
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The Shortest Path posted:It would avoid the situation of players picking characters that end up garbage on the map that they get randomed into. If you don't like the daily map, you can just not play qm that day and not have to worry about it on later days, instead of hoping you don't get randomed into a lovely one like Hanamura or Mines. Draft will still be random, so you have options for variety. "just not play that day" is an awful solution
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Jun 19, 2017 23:20
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I'm giving this idea, The Shortest Path...Right to my toilet!!
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Jun 19, 2017 23:21
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The Shortest Path posted:It would avoid the situation of players picking characters that end up garbage on the map that they get randomed into. If you don't like the daily map, you can just not play qm that day and not have to worry about it on later days, instead of hoping you don't get randomed into a lovely one like Hanamura or Mines. Draft will still be random, so you have options for variety. The complete lack of variety if you play more than a single game a day.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:21
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Polio Vax Scene posted:"just not play that day" is an awful solution Pesterchum posted:The complete lack of variety if you play more than a single game a day. You can still play draft or brawls or ranked, though. Or, hell, have this be another mode in addition to random qm.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:21
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The Shortest Path posted:It would avoid the situation of players picking characters that end up garbage on the map that they get randomed into. If you don't like the daily map, you can just not play qm that day and not have to worry about it on later days, instead of hoping you don't get randomed into a lovely one like Hanamura or Mines. Draft will still be random, so you have options for variety. Plenty of people play quick match since it lets them spam a character to learn / get xp. This likely means noticably fewer players on bad map days (hanamura day, bhb day, etc), and people outright losing interest in the game.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:22
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People play a max of 2 games a day from then on?
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Jun 19, 2017 23:25
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The Shortest Path posted:What are the downsides to this? I don't want to log in on a day off and get like Braxis Holdout as the only map option in quick match. I'd just straight up not play that day cause that map is trash. I'm sure everyone has similar feelings about certain maps. Blizzard shouldn't encourage people to just NOT play Polio Vax Scene posted:I'm giving this idea, The Shortest Path...Right to my toilet!!
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Jun 19, 2017 23:26
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Abathur builds: mines, locusts, hat1, hat2. Good builds: locusts, hat1.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:28
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The Shortest Path posted:It would avoid the situation of players picking characters that end up garbage on the map that they get randomed into. If you don't like the daily map, you can just not play qm that day and not have to worry about it on later days, instead of hoping you don't get randomed into a lovely one like Hanamura or Mines. Draft will still be random, so you have options for variety. You realize many if not most players only play qm, right? You don't want to push unwilling players into more competitive modes.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:31
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Ah yes saturday afternoon, my only chance to play some hots... oh wait it's hanamura day guess I'll never play this stupid poo poo game.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:31
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The solution here appears to be to fix Hanamura
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Jun 19, 2017 23:39
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No Wave posted:You realize many if not most players only play qm, right? You don't want to push unwilling players into more competitive modes. Arguably, QM players are likely dwarfed by AI - only players.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:39
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Semper Fudge posted:The solution here appears to be to fix Hanamura Pretty much, yeah.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:41
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Power Bottom posted:How do you figure? I have a buddy who's an Abathur main and he swears that Abathur has at least four distinct builds, which doesn't exactly scream "useless / unattractive talents" to me. Most heroes have several situational builds, but for some reason this thread is obsessed with the One Build To Rule Them All.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:41
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:His last rework was because his talents made his hat "too powerful" and it encouraged people to be hatted all game. I miss beta abathur, where I could basically win a match on my own by ignoring my team Power Bottom posted:How do you figure? I have a buddy who's an Abathur main and he swears that Abathur has at least four distinct builds, which doesn't exactly scream "useless / unattractive talents" to me. I build either for locusts, or if the matchmaking fucks my team out of a real healer, heals.
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Jun 19, 2017 23:45
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Tyreal has real potential in being The Knockback Tank™ where his Q and E slap people around. It'd make his dive game a lot stronger, his kit would become a lot more interactive, and player skill would more directly correlate with how effective of a Tank he is. I know for sure I'd trade Smite's speed booster for a knockback effect and shove the boost under a talent somewhere.
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Jun 20, 2017 00:42
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Macaluso posted:I don't want to log in on a day off and get like Braxis Holdout as the only map option in quick match. I'd just straight up not play that day cause that map is trash. I'm sure everyone has similar feelings about certain maps. Blizzard shouldn't encourage people to just NOT play One map a day would get really stale, even if you only play for an hour. I don't hate any of the maps, and if QM dumps me in one that's "bad" for my character I don't really care. Abathur and TLV are really outliers, most of the time you can still do fine with a tweak in your talent picks and strategy.
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Jun 20, 2017 01:20
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I dunno what that patch note about lowering personal rank adjustments was because I'm like 20 games into the new season, just under 50% win rate and already at -6 per game. Just get rid of this garbage poo poo.
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