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T-Bone posted:I was trying to come up with the most competitive team possible ignoring everything else and I stopped halfway through Vegas is going to be real bad If you took the best 6 defensemen and ignored that some might be protected via trade, the goldaknights would have a better defense (and goaltending, probably) than a bunch of teams. Too bad the forwards suck.
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Cammaleri is good if he's healthy. Vegas is going to struggle to score and he can help there, plus probably be an asset flip next season. Bennett is a waiver wire player.
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He kinda sucked last year but he was misued by Hynes imo and will probably be somewhat better next season
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Kilza posted:I'm going off the fact that PAS has complained endlessly about him. My fellow PAS posters whine about everything, it's easy to get confused.
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T-Bone posted:The Devils list was exactly as predicted but when you barely have 7 real NHL players that's not much of an accomplishment. yeah, seeing that list hammered that point home pretty hard.
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Dumb questions: Since we have to take 30 guys and max roster size is 23, are guys going to get taken then cut or stashed right away? That seems lovely for those guys if so.
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Jun 18, 2017 21:21
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So the Ducks are going to lose Vatanen or Manson right? Stupid Bieksa and his NMC
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pizza valentine posted:Dumb questions: Since we have to take 30 guys and max roster size is 23, are guys going to get taken then cut or stashed right away? That seems lovely for those guys if so. This is part of the reason that GMGM is interested in taking picks in exchange for not taking certain players. It would be stupid to take 30 NHLers, and then lose 7 or so on the waiver wire.
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I had the faintest hope the Canucks would expose Brandon Sutter. I guess on the plus side he wouldn't have been taken anyways.
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pizza valentine posted:Dumb questions: Since we have to take 30 guys and max roster size is 23, are guys going to get taken then cut or stashed right away? That seems lovely for those guys if so. Duck Rodgers posted:This is part of the reason that GMGM is interested in taking picks in exchange for not taking certain players. It would be stupid to take 30 NHLers, and then lose 7 or so on the waiver wire. Also, some of the guys that are available are waiver exempt.
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a neat cape posted:So the Ducks are going to lose Vatanen or Manson right? Or Vegas is going to end up with a Ducks first-round pick. Bobo reported however many days ago that the Ducks had a "complicated" deal in place with Anaheim that let them not ask Bieksa to waive his NMC. Exactly what that means is delightfully unclear but it probably has something to do with protecting Vatanen and Manson.
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Hand Knit posted:Or Vegas is going to end up with a Ducks first-round pick. Bobo reported however many days ago that the Ducks had a "complicated" deal in place with Anaheim that let them not ask Bieksa to waive his NMC. Exactly what that means is delightfully unclear but it probably has something to do with protecting Vatanen and Manson. I mean, the fact there's a deal in place doesn't mean things can't change. If I was a team, especially one of the Pacific teams, I sure as hell would try and get Manson or Vatanen (preferably Manson) by giving Vegas a lot more than what the Ducks are willing to give up. At worst you force the Ducks to pay a lot more, which isn't a bad thing at all.
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Vegas supposedly has deals with Ducks, CBJ, Isles (protection money) and BHawks (Kruger dump). Vegas getting more picks is good, but theyre low picks in a middling draft. 2018 is allegedly the deepest draft in a few years so I wonder if Vegas can swing those picks instead.
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George's everlasting love of Bobby Lu is fuckin' adorable. I think he might love him even more than I love Kipper.
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https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408 Thank god the Isles have a deal to prote-WAIT, WHO?! Oh COME ON.
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Rotten Cookies posted:https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408 Lmao
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The fact that this is linked to the NHL Awards means that it's going to all be announced in the most idiotic way imaginable. Probably one selection before each ad break to make us watch the whole dumb ceremony with the more popular teams coming right at the very end. Plus it's the NHL so it's going to be so shoddily produced you'll wonder why they even bothered. The guy famous for being Sofia Vergara's husband is hosting so presumably will be responsible for butchering a lot of their names. They couldn't at least have booked someone on the B list at minimum for the big reveal for their new team in their new city? ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jun 19, 2017 |
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Rotten Cookies posted:https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408 Ugh. I'd want a lot from Anaheim to skip on both those guys. I guess they take... Etem?
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Rotten Cookies posted:https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408 hockey sucks
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As a Rangers fan, I am glad to see the Islanders making dumb moves. Looks like CBJ is going to let them pick William Karlsson, which is probably a really good move for their franchise. He's 24, has been defensively responsible in a bottom six role for two years, and has respectable production (25p, 22 ESP in 13:23 ATOI). He's similar to Oscar Lindberg - both are reliable two-way centers on teams with a logjam of forward depth. The expansion draft is thin at center, and the floor for Karlsson is continuing to be a good third line center. Worst case, he's young enough that he'll still have roster+trade value in 3-4 years when Vegas is first getting a look at how their franchise is shaping up. That being said, with no side deal for the Rangers, there's a high change Vegas takes either Grabner or Raanta and flips them to another team, rather than trying to make the best team they can right now.
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Why are they even pretending this is a draft?
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https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/876799094391537665 Do it, Vegas. You know you want to.
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I wonder how the announcement of the Las Vegas Raiders may have impacted the G'Knights' draft strategy. If you had the only pro sports team in town then all options would be on the table: - Draft a few "stars" like MAF for marketing and/or pick up several veterans for a potential WC push early on; - A mix of option 1 and some youth, backroom deals for picks, and veterans that could be flipped for more assets; - Focus entirely on the long-term of youth/picka/assets and possibly be terrible for the first few years. The nascent fanbase of an expansion franchise in a "foreign" sport will only have 2 (max 3) years to grow before a historic NFL team with a playoff-caliber roster rolls into town. Sure, tickets may sell regardless due to casino promos and curious tourists, but a pro team needs a core loyal fanbase for the long haul. The first half of the NHL calendar will be swallowed up by NFL action, and if the G'Knights are doing poorly at the midway point then how many fans will be gung-ho for the back half? Do you think that may prompt an aggressive "be not-terrible now" mentality when drafting, or would you wager that patient development of the on-ice product will win out? (X-posted from offseason)
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Rotten Cookies posted:https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408 Did Brock Nelson and/or Calvin De Haan nail Garth Snow's wife or what?
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I get the feeling that McPhee is having way too much fun with this whole thing.
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https://twitter.com/reporterchris/status/876869029423480833 Remember when Garth Snow tried to trade all of the Isles picks to move up from #4 to #2 in the 2012 draft? I can only imagine McPhee having that in mind and trying to get some team to give him all their picks.
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grack posted:I get the feeling that McPhee is having way too much fun with this whole thing. This is gonna be an uphill battle for him, he might as well enjoy himself
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Rotten Cookies posted:https://twitter.com/NHLnumbers/status/876546670028177408 that's just a rumor, just like this is a rumor https://www.sny.tv/islanders/news/no-need-for-hysteria-over-islanders-protected-list/237426858 quote:More than likely, New York will send their first-round pick (15th overall in 2017), maybe with a sweetener, to Vegas for McPhee's promise to select defenseman Thomas Hickey. Arthur Staple (the most/only plugged in isles' reporter) was just on some radio station and says he believes that the trade is also to direct Vegas to select a specific player, although he doesn't know who or even if that's right no one knows anything
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Jun 19, 2017 22:07
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needs more gold accents to mesh better with the helmet or gone full gold armor with black accents imo
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Jun 19, 2017 22:18
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Hopefully that's what the mascot will be wearing.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:19
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That's actually the new goalie equipment because GOTTA SCORE MORE GOALS.
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Jun 19, 2017 22:37
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Needs a shield. How about the NHL logo with the letters VGK.
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https://twitter.com/NicholsOnHockey/status/876911008484175872 Not only would this be heartbreaking for us Jets fans, Enstrom seems like an objectively worse value than Dano given his remaining term and NMC. Hopefully Dreger is full of poo poo.
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I assume chevy would offer a late round pick to protect enstrom, which would hopefully be enough. Also enstroms agent said he absolutely did not want to play in Vegas and I could see him retiring and going back to Sweden if he gets taken.
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pretty sure I had this armor back in my WoW days
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I kind of can't believe we're only a few days away from a BRAND NEW NHL team. When Minnesota and Columbus came in I was just a kid so I couldn't appreciate it at all.
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