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Nichael posted:I really do agree. Part of the problem with the left, and the general group of people in America who believe in things like science, logic, and evidence, is that they wrap everything they say in fifty layers of unneeded academic language. It's no wonder you can't reach certain demographics when they vastly prefer bing bing bong bong communication strategies. don't defend that super stupid post. it isn't like an intro class is making somebody translate greek. when you study things, those things have terms. you can get through an intro comp class (where you encounter rhetoric) with three greek terms that are actually not that bizarre because they are related to terms we use in everyday communication. pathos = emotion, ethos = credibility, logos = logic. bing bong.
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sexpig by night posted:oh my god Fox is really pushing Tillerson's line about NK being 'directly responsible' for the kid's death and just called it 'functionally the murder of a US citizen'. yeah they need to hurry up and drop some concentrated american culture capsules
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Admiral Ray posted:when i took my rhetoric courses this is what we did. we were tasked with looking at works and determining who they were for, what message they carried, etc, and then (later) asked to analyze it through some lens or another. again, the problem lies in the formalization. if you look when the thread had a bunch of idiots fall for @sarrahsanders tweets, the takeaway i'm arguing is "people are dumb as gently caress, and you're dumb as gently caress too, so always remember that". sitting down and describing the formal concept of confirmation bias does loving nothing for people who fell for it the core goal is teaching concepts on an immediately manipulable, granular level. formal frameworks do not do that - they only really provide a language that those who already understand the concepts can use to discuss it. like wine tasting - what does it mean to the average person for a wine to have a cured meat flavor? loving nothing. it's a meaningless term unless you already have a developed palate and enough data points to compare and familiarity with context. if you want to teach someone to really appreciate wine, you just say go try a bunch of wine and see how it tastes and focus on differences in taste and ignore all the jargon and bullshit until they're having fun and you're having fun and the palate is being developed and there's an appreciation for it. you don't teach someone to appreciate wine by making a baby's first sommelier certification course and making them go through regional differences drills to earn the first taste and then providing wine review descriptions and saying "this, your first bottle of wine, is a bit more moderate in tannins compared to the next bottle". just engage expressly discarding formality and formal structures and rote learning is essential because those are in their own way forms of bullshit that should always be questioned. who gives a gently caress what aristotle said or what logos means or whatever, those terms only have meaning through the formalized context and the formalized context should be suspect from the start. throw all that garbage out and just gently caress with the kids' heads and show them that they're stupid, easily manipulable idiots and then show them how to protect against it, all from original principles and if someone wants to sit down and formally look at and discuss the structures behind how it works, they can do that, cool. just take it to a different, voluntary class
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Gringostar posted:
ehh. i try not to say it openly except around the poor bastards i am close too. Rocks posted:how about instead of going "welp i rest my case", chuck, instead say "MAN OH MAN CAN YOU loving BELIEVE THIS rear end in a top hat. GO gently caress YOURSELF MITCH"... please and thank you because they are idiot pussies. they want it to be like west wing or some stupid sophist poo poo like that. they wanna be the lawful good liberal who will hold the high ground and win through reason and debate and a catchy zinger at the end. gently caress em.
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GobiasIndustries posted:I'm gonna throw a party when Mitch McConnell dies. man my jesse helms party was epic
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like, yeah, much of academia can be abstruse as heck but we weren't talking about that, and on the other end is a bunch of people who freak out when they encounter new words and automatically think somebody is pompous if they don't dumb it down.
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now THIS is what I call accelerationalism!
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Admiral Ray posted:computers are just boxes of electrons that dance in specific ways. like a bee hive they require magic smoke inside of them to think properly
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mormonpartyboat posted:again, the problem lies in the formalization. if you look when the thread had a bunch of idiots fall for @sarrahsanders tweets, the takeaway i'm arguing is "people are dumb as gently caress, and you're dumb as gently caress too, so always remember that". sitting down and describing the formal concept of confirmation bias does loving nothing for people who fell for it now how many glasses we talkin
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Fidel Castronaut posted:You're super dumb, m8 excuse me but that's an ad hominem attack and that means something because i learned in formal logic class that your argument is flawed so the eternal scorekeeper of the universe awarded me a point ~~~~~~~~~~
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D1E posted:Is your career officially over if you're a racist Republican and you can't get a show on CMT? i'm sure he'll fine some other lovely soap box to expound upon all his life man lessons i'm just glad it's getting cancelled cause my so liked that show and i could not stand it
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Fidel Castronaut posted:like, yeah, much of academia can be abstruse as heck but we weren't talking about that, and on the other end is a bunch of people who freak out when they encounter new words and automatically think somebody is pompous if they don't dumb it down. that aint why people automatically think youre pompous
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GobiasIndustries posted:I'm gonna throw a party when Mitch McConnell dies. -A garbage rat
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of course they are waiting until after the GA-06 to roll this poo poo heap out
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:they require magic smoke inside of them to think properly it's always sad when the smoke escapes and they stop working. 
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Oh poo poo it just hit me. Clark Gregg plays Spicey in the TRUMP film/tv adaptation
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I know I've watched too much sci-fi because the word "timeline" followed by an itemized list indicates that this is an hour-long special where someone's time machine has crashed and they're drumming up a list of things that have to be prevented to avoid Disasterpocalypse or things that have to happen for the future to stay on course toward their present-day
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mormonpartyboat posted:throw all that garbage out and just gently caress with the kids' heads and show them that they're stupid, easily manipulable idiots and then show them how to protect against it, all from original principles hahahahaha yes, this is sound pedagogy
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:now how many glasses we talkin all of them 
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mormonpartyboat posted:excuse me but that's an ad hominem attack and that means something because i learned in formal logic class that your argument is flawed so the eternal scorekeeper of the universe awarded me a point your opponent chose to  i l l a l l o w i t
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mormonpartyboat posted:again, the problem lies in the formalization. if you look when the thread had a bunch of idiots fall for @sarrahsanders tweets, the takeaway i'm arguing is "people are dumb as gently caress, and you're dumb as gently caress too, so always remember that". sitting down and describing the formal concept of confirmation bias does loving nothing for people who fell for it ah aight i see ur game.
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"just like do some parlor tricks with manipulation and then explain it to them. bing bong, so simple to teach. can't believe people take classes on teaching when it's this easy!"
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GobiasIndustries posted:lmao Mitch McConnell is such a loving piece of poo poo Not even a full workday to review a bill that severely affects like a fifth of the US economy and millions upon millions of people. Christ almighty.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:hahahahaha no this is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcVnqFxWMDM
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Fidel Castronaut posted:hahahahaha wait pedagogs can be teachers now???? wtf obama and/or trump
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Again, do we know for sure that scalise got his cock n balls shot off?
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the lamest academic debates are about academia
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Admiral Ray posted:the ultimate triumph of academia is all the marketing agencies that dominate your psyche and make you buy poo poo you don't even want. my college experience was so weird seeing like 80%+ of my classmates toting around apple laptops and poo poo. walk into lecture and see a sea of apple logos in the dark
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mormonpartyboat posted:excuse me but that's an ad hominem attack and that means something because i learned in formal logic class that your argument is flawed so the eternal scorekeeper of the universe awarded me a point nah, i didn't say your argument was dumb because you are dumb but just that u are dum as heck
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how is the cbo scoring that in two working days
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my guess is it will leak this week and it will be loving terrible, the gop will say gently caress it and repeal Obamacare but not be able to get enough votes for the new lovely one(either because its too awful or because it doesnt kill enough chaff) my guess is trump will start a new fire or some new russia poo poo will leak too. loving them further.
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mormonpartyboat posted:all of them 
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That DICK! posted:I still stand by the fact that Mitch McConnell is the most detestable person Ben Carson should do something about that guy.
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euphronius posted:how is the cbo scoring that in two working days who knows. my guess is the GOP doesnt give a gently caress at this point.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:nah, i didn't say your argument was dumb because you are dumb but just that u are dum as heck silly glue elemental, always blind to the rubber vest under a sweater
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Dapper_Swindler posted:my guess is it will leak this week and it will be loving terrible, the gop will say gently caress it and repeal Obamacare but not be able to get enough votes for the new lovely one(either because its too awful or because it doesnt kill enough chaff) my guess is trump will start a new fire or some new russia poo poo will leak too. loving them further.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:like, yeah, much of academia can be abstruse as heck but we weren't talking about that, and on the other end is a bunch of people who freak out when they encounter new words and automatically think somebody is pompous if they don't dumb it down. But there is no changing that other end unless you have a massive overhaul of our culture. It's better to engage them on their terms, while still educating them.
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