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pepito sanchez posted:I might be. It's just seemed surreal since Trump won the presidency. Something failed, whether it was polls, or something as big as the electoral college. It's making me go nuts, and I'm not even in USA. did you have a really long stroke while reading the news for the past six months 
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Here's Nate's take on GA-06, if you haven't read it already. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-the-georgia-special-election-matters/ Sounds about right - impossible to know what's going to happen, and people are going to way over interpret the results.
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OctaMurk posted:Perry is better for the DOE and America than Tillerson. He apparently has been a pretty hands-off administrator and has focused more on working on behalf of his subordinates and taking their advice seriously, rather than micromanaging them. Honestly, it's probably better to have someone like him in charge of the DOE to lobby for its importance and navigate Congress rather than some physicist. Paradoxish posted:Not that it's great for Rick Perry to be saying these things, but actions matter more than words. Pruitt is actively undermining the EPA's mission while Perry seems to be letting the DOE more or less run itself. No, the Office of the Secretary is reviewing all funding in the department and putting as much of it on hold as he can while that "review" happens. I know I'm too slow for this thread because I don't spend all day at work on here. But Rick Perry is bad for the DoE. He hasn't proven to be as bad for the DoE as, say Pruitt is for EPA, but just because he isn't swinging from the rafters telling his own department to go gently caress itself, doesn't mean he isn't doing harm. GreyjoyBastard posted:The goon anecdote as I recall it is that he's twiddling his fingers on getting grants approved and suchlike, with potentially catastrophic effects on the recipients that need that money to, you know, exist. This isn't an anecdote, it is in emails from the DoE that I have posted. The labs are less affected by this (right now) because they're funded through continuing resolution and they have DoE officers on site to keep the mother ship updated. poo poo will start getting real if/when there is a new budget. Edit: Also, program managers are planning for the advertised 30% cut. Just because the president's budget isn't binding doesn't mean it is toothless. MickeyFinn fucked around with this message at 02:45 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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pepito sanchez posted:Why is anyone at all still seriously thinking polls are relevant? If the 2016 wasn't a wake-up call, I don't know what could be. Polls don't mean poo poo anymore. Am I really missing something fundamental? It was all within the margin of error. Accuracy vs precision. Idk, words.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's been too long since the election for people to still believe this poo poo. The only explanation at this point is that you're just retarded. I get the electoral college. But it was entirely projected that she'd win the popular vote in those key states. Margin of error, yes, but I don't know how I'm being retarded, specially when this entire forum was so certain of her win, including the Trump supporters. loving Alex Jones was already crying over the inevitable win. Obviously, she didn't actually get it, I'm just saying polls actually hurt her and emboldened the Trump rally into getting out for the vote. Margin of error my rear end, people didn't get out to vote. For fucks sake, I'm still surprised USA doesn't have a mandatory voting law, at least for the presidency.
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People went out and voted fine, just not in the right states. Polls predicted Hillary winning by around 2% and she did about that. She lost 3 key states by 10k votes. Not exactly a large amount.
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skylined! posted:did you have a really long stroke while reading the news for the past six months feels like it. Here and there, it often feels like venting frustration. also, rarely,  But I'll shut up now.
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oh god we've gone back into election talk. Please let us all stop
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Kekekela posted:538 was showing Trump with ~30% chance during the runup. A bunch of dumb people thought this meant 0%. Let's not revise history and say that it was a bunch of dummies who thought that, and not, you know, pretty much everyone in this forum. The problem in 2016 wasn't that a bunch of dumb people pretended 30% meant 0%, it's that a whole bunch of smart people did too.
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MickeyFinn posted:He hasn't proven to be as bad for the DoE as, say Pruitt is for EPA, but just because he isn't swinging from the rafters telling his own department to go gently caress itself, doesn't mean he isn't doing harm. That's all that we were saying, though? I don't think anyone here is jumping for joy that Rick Perry is running the DoE, but he's not as much of a threat as Pruitt, Sessions, or DeVos.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:oh god we've gone back into election talk. Please let us all stop lol, just wait until tomorrow night.
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Z. Autobahn posted:Let's not revise history and say that it was a bunch of dummies who thought that, and not, you know, pretty much everyone in this forum. The problem in 2016 wasn't that a bunch of dumb people pretended 30% meant 0%, it's that a whole bunch of smart people did too. yeah it's true tht 538 had a 30% chance but it's also true that every other major media outlet had 0% chance HOWEVER lets not do this again
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https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-06-19/sean-spicer-to-lead-communications-office-searches-for-new-press-secretary SPICER OUT!
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theflyingorc posted:holy poo poo - no, you don't get to say things are radically changed based on one poll that shows movement by less than half the margin of error on that poll Polling has been trending in Handel's favor the last week or two because the GOP voters are coming home to their racist white pride party and GA-06 is, at the end of the day, full of FYGM white southerners who will absolutely support American Nazis over a party that wants to help them but also help those people. Also the Georgia state government is hilariously, and in the governor's case rather openly, corrupt. Deal is absolutely not above loving with the election in any and every way possible to ensure a GOP win.
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https://twitter.com/funder/status/876976689233973248 bye
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Z. Autobahn posted:Let's not revise history and say that it was a bunch of dummies who thought that, and not, you know, pretty much everyone in this forum. You're making a distinction here that I'm not quite grasping.
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pepito sanchez posted:feels like it. Here and there, it often feels like venting frustration. also, rarely, it's ok bud. we are all in this together. as long as you never bring up the election again.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/876964061027684352 Lol at any Republican being able to say (or tweet) with a straight face that all the Dems do is obstruct and have no ideas of their own.
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boner confessor posted:he doesn't live in the district but he lives close enough to it to where it doesn't matter and this is just a silly excuse to paint him as an outsider Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Jun 20, 2017 |
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There Bias Two posted:https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2017-06-19/sean-spicer-to-lead-communications-office-searches-for-new-press-secretary Not really out, more like behind. 
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Who in christ's name is going to replace him?
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Sean made it about 6 months. RIP buddy.
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Guessing Huckabee is going to be their go-to girl for the job.
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Night10194 posted:Who in christ's name is going to replace him? Last I heard they're seriously considering Stephen Miller, which, just lol.
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Night10194 posted:Who in christ's name is going to replace him? Sarah Sandra Or whatever her name is Hucklesomething
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Haha, I hope this is because Trump is blaming his approval ratings on spicer.
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Nothus posted:Sean made it about 6 months. RIP buddy. Someone told him he had to stay at the job for 6 months, any less would look bad on a resume. So he held on.
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Nothus posted:Sean made it about 6 months. RIP buddy. Considering his job/boss, that's honestly impressive. Guy's probably gonna do his best to hide under a rock for his own sanity for a good while.
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enraged_camel posted:Sarah she doesnt even want it
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Paradoxish posted:Malloy is all but handing this state to the GOP on a silver platter, but the real problem with CT is that we're in the endgame of decades of business friendly government policy. It turns out that kowtowing to business interests only works for so long and sooner or later you need those businesses to actually pay taxes rather than just rely on neverending growth. I look forward to becoming Kansas 2.0: Northeast Edition.
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Nothus posted:Sean made it about 6 months. RIP buddy. i hope trump never stops torturing him
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evilweasel posted:she doesnt even want it trump doesn't care
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Night10194 posted:Who in christ's name is going to replace him? Supposedly Sean interviewed Laura Ingraham. Hopefully whoever it is will be as delightfully incompetent as Spicer, and not frustratingly incompetent like Sarah Sanders.
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pepito sanchez posted:I might be. It's just seemed surreal since Trump won the presidency. Something failed, whether it was polls, or something as big as the electoral college. It's making me go nuts, and I'm not even in USA. The thing that failed is deeper than polls.
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Spicy Sad!
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Serfer posted:Supposedly Sean interviewed Laura Ingraham. The little girl from the little house on the prairie?
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Why make this announcement before they have the official replacement though? What's the hurry?
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Serfer posted:Supposedly Sean interviewed Laura Ingraham. They interviewed 3 candidates to replace Spicer. Laura Ingraham A brunette lady from Fox News A former NRCC spokesman You haven't heard of any of them except for Laura Ingraham.
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empty whippet box posted:Why make this announcement before they have the official replacement though? What's the hurry? tune in next week.....
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